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https://www.change.org/p/boris-johnson-mp-nigel-farage-must-be-involved-in-the-brexit-negotiations-in-brussels

Is there a role for UKIP now? You bet there is.

So, Boris is making up to the Remainers and proposing that George Osborne stay on as Chancellor or Foreign Secretary. Osborne, if you please, is reportedly "furious at Leave's behaviour in recent months" and not sure he wants to play.

To even contemplate having George Osborne as Chancellor beyond today is extraordinary. Though perhaps they genuinely believe he has worked out how to predict economic growth accurately for the next 14 years. Emergency budget, anyone?

Meanwhile the Vote Leave leaders are (almost) all busy saying that immigration was not the main factor in the Brexit win. The exception being IDS. Only Lord Heseltine is saying that Nigel should be on the negotiating team, and that is because he thinks it will be a poisoned chalice.

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Report enpassant June 28, 2016 8:07 PM BST
where have I called brexits racist- if you want to play word games show me where.
Report enpassant June 28, 2016 8:08 PM BST
You are the one generalising falla.
Report ZenMaster June 28, 2016 8:08 PM BST
The EU is a racist development.
Report ZenMaster June 28, 2016 8:10 PM BST
So is the German women suffering from racist abuse or aggressive nativism?
Report enpassant June 28, 2016 8:10 PM BST
You are a pseudo intellectual. Give it a rest.
Report ZenMaster June 28, 2016 8:11 PM BST
No wonder you lost the referendum
Report enpassant June 28, 2016 8:11 PM BST
I don't give a **** mate. She is one of a growing number being punished for having the 'wrong colour skin, accent, faith ect.
Report ZenMaster June 28, 2016 8:12 PM BST
Just like in Rotherham?
Report enpassant June 28, 2016 8:12 PM BST
Leave.....have we left yet ? Has Article 50 been invoked ?
Report enpassant June 28, 2016 8:13 PM BST
You seem to lack empathy ?
Report ZenMaster June 28, 2016 8:13 PM BST
You still ignoring Rotherham?
Report enpassant June 28, 2016 8:13 PM BST
Feeling a bit sad for you. You may need a little cultural chlorine in your family DNA.
Report ZenMaster June 28, 2016 8:15 PM BST
You ignore Muslim sex crimes against children but handwring about a German woman feeling unwelcome?

Understand you a bit more now.
Report ZenMaster June 28, 2016 8:16 PM BST
You apologist for Muslim sex crimes against children
Report enpassant June 28, 2016 8:16 PM BST
You are totally ignorant- the veil of intellect has fallen leaving a gross little englander exposed.
Report ZenMaster June 28, 2016 8:17 PM BST
Are you still an apologist?
Report enpassant June 28, 2016 8:18 PM BST
You are attributing things to me I haven't said or even hinted at.
Report ZenMaster June 28, 2016 8:19 PM BST
You have had the opportunity to speak out, one last time?
Report enpassant June 28, 2016 8:20 PM BST
You don't give a **** about a little old lady because she isn't english enough for you. Mate i wouldn't let you wipe the **** off my shoe let alone give credence to your facist sh!te.
Report ZenMaster June 28, 2016 8:21 PM BST
Ok. you had plenty of chances. Cheerio.
Report enpassant June 28, 2016 8:22 PM BST
blocked the racist.
Report enpassant June 28, 2016 8:31 PM BST
EU Referendum Rules triggering a 2nd EU Referendum

We the undersigned call upon HM Government to implement a rule that if the remain or leave vote is less than 60% based a turnout less than 75% there should be another referendum.

Sign this petition
3,988,445 signatures
Report gambeano June 28, 2016 9:03 PM BST
So, on that basis, the referendum we've just held failed on 2 counts, turnout and margin of victory?
The turnout of 72.2% was considered very high by this country's recent standards, given that turnout has been less than 70% for the last 4 GE's.
If those criteria were implemented, we would be on the neverendum path and the status quo would Remain by default.
Funnily enough if you look at voter turnout for GE's, it dropped quite significantly after Bliar came to power in 1997, as people realised there was no real alternative to the entire Westminster elite!
Report CJ70 June 28, 2016 9:06 PM BST

Jun 28, 2016 -- 8:31PM, enpassant wrote:


EU Referendum Rules triggering a 2nd EU ReferendumWe the undersigned call upon HM Government to implement a rule that if the remain or leave vote is less than 60% based a turnout less than 75% there should be another referendum.Sign this petition3,988,445 signatures


You realise you are using a poll that is entirely bogus and has a large amount of North Korean signatories right?

Report enpassant June 28, 2016 9:46 PM BST
gamb: Regardless of the 'basis', it's clear the implications of the referendum was beyond the electorate.

CJ70: It's a petition, not a poll. It has now been vetted.
Report CJ70 June 28, 2016 9:48 PM BST

Jun 28, 2016 -- 9:46PM, enpassant wrote:


gamb: Regardless of the 'basis', it's clear the implications of the referendum was beyond the electorate. CJ70: It's a petition, not a poll. It has now been vetted.


It's not been vetted very well. They just took out the 70k signatures that mostly came from the Vatican(population 800).

Report enpassant June 28, 2016 10:11 PM BST
Your figures are incorrect but that said there is no doubt a hacker has entertained themselves with this. Nonetheless itwas and is being vetted. These are probably moot points anyway. Parliament have to vote on the Referendum and 2/3 are remains.  Harder still to fathom is the political gamesmanship going on within the Tory party. Leaving the 'no plan' Boris in the lurch floundering.
Report CJ70 June 28, 2016 10:15 PM BST

Jun 28, 2016 -- 10:11PM, enpassant wrote:


Your figures are incorrect but that said there is no doubt a hacker has entertained themselves with this. Nonetheless itwas and is being vetted. These are probably moot points anyway. Parliament have to vote on the Referendum and 2/3 are remains.

Report CJ70 June 28, 2016 10:16 PM BST
Fancy correcting me on the figures then?

Parliament will ignore it, as everyone is aware 4chan is trolling it with numbers. Sorry to burst your bubble and all that.
Report enpassant June 28, 2016 10:23 PM BST
My mistake. I thought you were open to proper debate.
Report CJ70 June 28, 2016 10:26 PM BST

Jun 28, 2016 -- 10:23PM, enpassant wrote:


My mistake. I thought you were open to proper debate.


You mean you don't want to deal in facts and live in a dreamworld?

Fair enough. Plenty of others here you will get on with.

Report enpassant June 28, 2016 10:30 PM BST
They were wholly correct- in the main, well educated intelligent people voted to stay. I hope who have the wherewithal to understand the implication.
Report CJ70 June 28, 2016 10:34 PM BST

Jun 28, 2016 -- 10:30PM, enpassant wrote:


They were wholly correct- in the main, well educated intelligent people voted to stay. I hope who have the wherewithal to understand the implication.


You want to translate that into English for those who aren't so educated to understand pidgin English?

Report enpassant June 28, 2016 10:35 PM BST
No.
Report CJ70 June 28, 2016 10:36 PM BST

Jun 28, 2016 -- 10:35PM, enpassant wrote:


No.


Why doesn't that surprise me..

Report enpassant June 28, 2016 10:37 PM BST
Because it's easy to understand I guess.
Report ZenMaster June 28, 2016 10:40 PM BST
Another handwringing undemocratic hypocrite^^^
Report CJ70 June 28, 2016 10:40 PM BST

Jun 28, 2016 -- 10:37PM, enpassant wrote:


Because it's easy to understand I guess.


Is it?

I think most people understand what you stand for when you run away from any debate that doesn't agree with you. Perhaps I could suggest reading up on the subject you are speaking about before you come back?

Report enpassant June 28, 2016 10:44 PM BST
I thought we were but you used sarcasm instead and I then changed tack. I know what I stand for, it's taking any person on their merits and not the colour of their skin, the accent they speak with or their faith.
Report CJ70 June 28, 2016 10:52 PM BST

Jun 28, 2016 -- 10:44PM, enpassant wrote:


I thought we were but you used sarcasm instead and I then changed tack. I know what I stand for, it's taking any person on their merits and not the colour of their skin, the accent they speak with or their faith.


You haven't got a clue what you stand for. You can't back up any points you make and just end up looking a bit silly I'm afraid.

Still unitedbiscuits agrees with you, he doesn't have a clue about anything he says either. You'll have a nice echo chamber going there.

Report unitedbiscuits June 28, 2016 10:53 PM BST
28,283
Report enpassant June 28, 2016 10:55 PM BST
Bet back to your hating fella - it doesn't take any brains.
Report CJ70 June 28, 2016 10:55 PM BST

Jun 28, 2016 -- 10:53PM, unitedbiscuits wrote:


28,283


Glad you are counting my posts. Saves you shouting at buses I guess.

Report CJ70 June 28, 2016 10:56 PM BST

Jun 28, 2016 -- 10:55PM, enpassant wrote:


Bet back to your hating fella - it doesn't take any brains.


Dare I ask again if you are willing to translate this?

Report enpassant June 28, 2016 10:57 PM BST
Dare away- hold your breath and I will get back to you.
Report unitedbiscuits June 28, 2016 10:58 PM BST
I can help you there, CJ70, enpassant is saying that your brand of resentment-politics is stupid.
Report CJ70 June 28, 2016 10:59 PM BST

Jun 28, 2016 -- 10:57PM, enpassant wrote:


Dare away- hold your breath and I will get back to you.


Don't worry about it. You're new friend is translating for you.

Report CJ70 June 28, 2016 10:59 PM BST
*your
Report CJ70 June 28, 2016 11:00 PM BST

Jun 28, 2016 -- 10:58PM, unitedbiscuits wrote:


I can help you there, CJ70, enpassant is saying that your brand of resentment-politics is stupid.


What politics is that? The ones you disagree with but don't know why?

Report enpassant June 28, 2016 11:01 PM BST
EU Referendum Rules triggering a 2nd EU Referendum

We the undersigned call upon HM Government to implement a rule that if the remain or leave vote is less than 60% based a turnout less than 75% there should be another referendum.

Sign this petition
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Report CJ70 June 28, 2016 11:03 PM BST

Jun 28, 2016 -- 11:01PM, enpassant wrote:


EU Referendum Rules triggering a 2nd EU ReferendumWe the undersigned call upon HM Government to implement a rule that if the remain or leave vote is less than 60% based a turnout less than 75% there should be another referendum.Sign this petition4,001,512 signatures


Bless. Perhaps unitedbiscuits can translate for you?

That poll is bogus as it is trolling by 4chan. The numbers aren't real.

Report enpassant June 28, 2016 11:07 PM BST
I am scared of a few things in this world but COLOUR isn't one of them.
Report treetop June 28, 2016 11:08 PM BST
We the undersigned call upon HM Government to implement a rule that if the remain or leave vote is less than 60% based a turnout less than 75% there should be another referendum.

Rewriting the rules after the event is the stuff of dictators,nobody in their right mind should support that type of behaviour within  free society .
Report CJ70 June 28, 2016 11:08 PM BST

Jun 28, 2016 -- 11:07PM, enpassant wrote:


I am scared of a few things in this world but COLOUR isn't one of them.


What about English?

Report enpassant June 28, 2016 11:09 PM BST
It was set up BEFORE the Referendum by a Leave voter.
Report enpassant June 28, 2016 11:11 PM BST
Why don't you just go all out and post nur nur na nur nur.
Report treetop June 28, 2016 11:12 PM BST
In that case I apologise but it appeared to constructed after the turnouts and decision had been completed.We could have one a month at that rate. Arbitrary choice of limits could be disputed by many,however.
Report CJ70 June 28, 2016 11:12 PM BST

Jun 28, 2016 -- 11:11PM, enpassant wrote:


Why don't you just go all out and post nur nur na nur nur.


You'll have to get your mate unitedbiscuits to translate that one again.

Report enpassant June 28, 2016 11:15 PM BST
Try your knuckle daggers dictionary to help you translate, neanderthal edition.
Report CJ70 June 28, 2016 11:17 PM BST

Jun 28, 2016 -- 11:15PM, enpassant wrote:


Try your knuckle daggers dictionary to help you translate, neanderthal edition.


unitedbiscuits? Don't leave your new mate in the lurch.

Report spyker June 28, 2016 11:18 PM BST
Farrage - the man so proud to be British he flies his Union Flag upside down (which is an indication of distress). What a complete mockery of a proud Englishman he is.
Report enpassant June 28, 2016 11:22 PM BST
Treetop : it is not so arbitrary as you may believe. I read an article, can't quite remember which paper ( likely to be Guardian or Independent ), that used very similar criteria in terms of referendums.
Report unitedbiscuits June 28, 2016 11:25 PM BST
unitedbiscuits? Don't leave your new mate in the lurch.

Enpassant just got bored spanking you.Laugh
Report treetop June 28, 2016 11:25 PM BST
Fair comment but I can't recall much coverage about this idea before the referendum ep. Why not two thrids or 75% or whatever. Our whole system at present is first past the post so we could be demanding repeats by every MP who is deselected. We need to get on with it.
Report enpassant June 28, 2016 11:25 PM BST
Report CJ70 June 28, 2016 11:28 PM BST

Jun 28, 2016 -- 11:25PM, unitedbiscuits wrote:


unitedbiscuits? Don't leave your new mate in the lurch. Enpassant just got bored spanking you.


Well now we know it was all just drivel we can move on.

You've found a niche here unitedbiscuits, instead of posting opinions you get laughed out of town for you can translate for similar minded people.

Who says people are unemployable!

Report enpassant June 28, 2016 11:28 PM BST
There was a lot said that shouldn't have been and a great deal more, not said that should have been before the Referendum. I think we can certainly agree on that  Treetop.
Report enpassant June 28, 2016 11:29 PM BST
Your carer !
Report ZenMaster June 28, 2016 11:49 PM BST
Treetop : it is not so arbitrary as you may believe. I read an article, can't quite remember which paper ( likely to be Guardian or Independent ), that used very similar criteria in terms of referendums.


The Guardian reader has spoken!
Report CJ70 June 28, 2016 11:51 PM BST
Pretty sure enpassant is a troll account. Newly made and changes its diction depending on which point it's making. Probably the new Comrade Karla.
Report CJ70 June 29, 2016 12:21 AM BST

Jun 29, 2016 -- 12:19AM, enpassant wrote:


I'm not so much changing my diction on account of points,as pri.ks such as your good self.


unitedbiscuits?

Report The Shiekh June 29, 2016 12:23 AM BST
No rules should be changed in democratic country to rig a vote no wait should dispose of child rapists in my humble opinion
Report ZenMaster June 29, 2016 12:41 AM BST
The liberal left can only see racism in their own kind.  Their biggest fail for sure. It has perhaps cost them this referendum.
Report The Shiekh June 29, 2016 12:48 AM BST
Probably along with Jeremy Corbyn the left are finished let things go too far in fear of upsetting certain groups and many young children suffered
Report enpassant June 29, 2016 1:04 AM BST
BREXIDUS -- 'SET THE RACISTS FREE' !  (Bob Marley reference for any of you that need to see a Psychiatrist if you see or hear ethnicity !)
Report enpassant June 29, 2016 1:12 AM BST
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Sign this petition
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over 5000 in 2 hours----- conspiracy theory or just common sense........don't hurt your brain on it......it's common sense.
Report ZenMaster June 29, 2016 1:13 AM BST
Types like enpassant worked in positions of authority in Rotherham and turned the other cheek.
Report ZenMaster June 29, 2016 1:13 AM BST
Types like enpassant worked in positions of authority in Rotherham and turned the other cheek.
Report The Shiekh June 29, 2016 1:15 AM BST
Reference for all angry seethers who don't understand democracy see a clinical psychologist
Report The Shiekh June 29, 2016 1:18 AM BST
Get used to democracy or go enpassant other countries will appreciate your way of thinking
Report The Shiekh June 29, 2016 1:20 AM BST
Try North Korea
Report ZenMaster June 29, 2016 1:31 AM BST
Anti-democratic sentiment from the Remain side is alarming.
Report enpassant June 29, 2016 1:44 AM BST
The Sun readers are out in force !
Report enpassant June 29, 2016 1:51 AM BST
Exposure to the Sun is very bad you know you poor little mites.
Report sean rua June 29, 2016 9:53 AM BST
Democracy for Scotland and Ireland?

Here's a tip, trill:

carswell's your man. Forget nige; he's too busy getting European money out in Brussels.
Report spyker June 29, 2016 10:37 AM BST
Has this proud Englishman got his flag the right way up today
Report enpassant June 29, 2016 12:59 PM BST
He's given the flag to the racists bravely abusing women and children around the country - they have their country back apparently.
Report ZenMaster June 29, 2016 1:13 PM BST
See how the liberal left connect being proud of your national flag = racism.

They have been brainwashed.
Report ZenMaster June 29, 2016 1:14 PM BST
And enpassant is also an apologist for Rotherham.

More liberal lefty hypocrisy.
Report sean rua June 29, 2016 2:55 PM BST
Zen, bruv,

the national flag of England is the red cross of St George.

What's that got to do with nige?

Btw, carswell is your man. Nige should jack now after having seventeen years of European money and doing fk all to help anybody.

Btw2,

do ye know the figures for immigration on ""Independence Day"" 23 June 2016, please?
Report ZenMaster June 29, 2016 4:02 PM BST
When 'Independence Day' appears upon the horizon i shall give ye them there figs Sean.

Nige represents UKIP sean, UK - not just England. Best flag in the world aye.
Report spyker June 29, 2016 4:42 PM BST
So why do so called patriots desecrate the flag of St George by writing the name of their local pub or other such nonsense on it? Many countries have laws against writing on the national flag but we just use the red line as that - a bloody line to write on. If you write on it it's no longer a national flag it's just a sheet with a red cross and writing on it.
Report The Shiekh June 29, 2016 5:30 PM BST
Get yourself to the airport spyker for gods sake just go man
Report enpassant June 29, 2016 5:54 PM BST
Racists : remember when your hating minorities ( it's based on fear rather than hate in reality but racists don't like to be told they're scared) you are in a minority, approximately 15%, quite a big number but not as big as 85% eh ! 'Brexidu-has set the racists free' ! Don't be scared poor little racists, colour want hurt you.
Report spyker June 29, 2016 6:12 PM BST
Ohh are you my stalker sheikh? I also find it wrong that the national anthem has now become a football chant (much as i don't like the dirge in which it's played it is still our anthem) and I've had my view on writing on the flag for many years and your response tells me all i need to know about C21 century 'patriotism'. It's lost in a fug of confusing nonsense. Pip pip.
Report The Shiekh June 29, 2016 6:12 PM BST
Are u actually accusing people of racism
Report The Shiekh June 29, 2016 6:15 PM BST
Not at all just don't think you are handling defeat very well
Report spyker June 30, 2016 12:20 AM BST
At least i wait until I've lost before I don't handle defeat very well! Can you imagine the poisonous atmosphere in the whole country if it had been 48-52 and Farage was still repeating his call for a second ref as you'd been cheated? You lot would still be going on about pencils and other utter nonsense and parts of the country could well be burning. On second thoughts it's just as well you won esp as the leave campaign continues to (email) Gove and gove and gove (sic) to those that like to question charlatans and liars that claim to be against The Elite'.
Report enpassant June 30, 2016 2:00 AM BST
"I think it's important to point out that those who argued about leaving the European Union are the same folks who the very next day are insisting: 'Don't worry we're still going to have access to the single market.'
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