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https://www.change.org/p/boris-johnson-mp-nigel-farage-must-be-involved-in-the-brexit-negotiations-in-brussels

Is there a role for UKIP now? You bet there is.

So, Boris is making up to the Remainers and proposing that George Osborne stay on as Chancellor or Foreign Secretary. Osborne, if you please, is reportedly "furious at Leave's behaviour in recent months" and not sure he wants to play.

To even contemplate having George Osborne as Chancellor beyond today is extraordinary. Though perhaps they genuinely believe he has worked out how to predict economic growth accurately for the next 14 years. Emergency budget, anyone?

Meanwhile the Vote Leave leaders are (almost) all busy saying that immigration was not the main factor in the Brexit win. The exception being IDS. Only Lord Heseltine is saying that Nigel should be on the negotiating team, and that is because he thinks it will be a poisoned chalice.

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By:
Parasang
When: 27 Jun 16 15:07
Signed.
By:
trilby22
When: 27 Jun 16 16:57
Nice one, Parasang.

Pass it on to all you know.
By:
mrs peopleater
When: 27 Jun 16 17:07
signed
By:
bigpoppapump
When: 27 Jun 16 17:19
Presumably you think one of our MEPs should be on the team? Is he the best qualified?

Or maybe - as the 52% have indicated their desire not to have British MEPs any longer we should have people with a democratic mandate on the team?
By:
treetop
When: 27 Jun 16 19:05
Farage and Daniel Hannan,one of the smartest MEP's should be involved.
By:
glasshouses dogman
When: 27 Jun 16 20:05
Keep him well away. With him involved the terms we get are likely to be worse than what  would get without him there.

I would say have some business leaders involved. Many on the BREXIT side have said the EEC politicians and civil servants have been bad for our businesses with the regulations and red tape they tie businesses up with. Just think most if not all of our politicians and diplomats have actually had any business experience.
By:
glasshouses dogman
When: 27 Jun 16 20:09
Sorry but distracted here by our Euro game and the goals just scored. End should read  - Just think most if not all of our politicians and diplomats have had no business experience.
By:
posy
When: 27 Jun 16 20:50
farage has no right whatsoever to be involved in the negotiating team however wouldn't object to Carswell. Let's face it Farage is merely a disgusting rabble rouser.
By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 27 Jun 16 20:52
Vote-Leave were happy to lift the stone on Nigel Farage pre referendum for the xenophobe vote. Now they want to cover him up again.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 27 Jun 16 21:02
Without Farage there wouldn't have been a referendum.
He's the one who did the most to bring to the attention of the nation what an the undemocratic mess the EU is.
He shaped the UKIP party and forced the Tories to give us a referendum.

We need someone like him on the team to keep an eye on the other negotiators whom I wouldn't trust as far as I could throw them.
And that is why they don't want him to be involved. They know he would report anything untoward that he saw.
By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 27 Jun 16 21:11
Eighth time lucky.
The tortoise wins in the end?
By:
trilby22
When: 27 Jun 16 22:53
How's the banana diet, Crumble?

I won't ask what Adele asked about it.
By:
trilby22
When: 27 Jun 16 22:54

Jun 27, 2016 -- 5:07PM, mrs peopleater wrote:


signed


Thank you.

By:
trilby22
When: 27 Jun 16 23:43
30,261 supporters ... and counting.

Keep 'em coming, folks.
By:
melv
When: 28 Jun 16 04:37
Anti brexit petition 4 million and rising.
By:
enpassant
When: 28 Jun 16 15:23
Estimated at 1m+ leave voters would change their vote. The 'soft' remainer's Farage spoke of would come out of their shell and the result would be clear cut REMAIN.
By:
gambeano
When: 28 Jun 16 18:55
It doesn't matter. The vote was in an official referendum, not on signing some poxy petition AFTER the result didn't go the right way.
Remain had ample opportunity to win the referendum.
They had the PM on their side, almost the full force of government and opposition parties, plus any number of institutions (both EU-funded and pseudo independent).
They p***** away £9m+ on an official leaflet which included at least one stolen photograph to make their case.
They even managed to conveniently have the voter registration website crash for 2-3 hours immediately prior to closing and then re-opened it for 48 hours.
If the Remain argument had been so convincing, then why didn't they walk this vote?
Could it be that it simply wasn't?
By:
treetop
When: 28 Jun 16 19:22
There will have been many who voted Remain who strongly believe in democracy. That would preclude most of them contemplating over turning the result of a robust campaign for the referendum,at least as many as it has been suggested might change from Brexit to Remain after the event.This is rarely mentioned.
By:
enpassant
When: 28 Jun 16 19:43
Delusional nonsense. All THE LEAVE PROMISES have fallen to dust. Why so many believed them is a matter for the education system. If propaganda was used to manipulate the result is tainted in many peoples view. Why didn't they walk this vote - simple Farage was right - many in the leave camp 'would walk over broken glass' but Remain were 'soft'. If there was a rerun remain would indeed 'walk it'. Farage himself said 48-52 in remains favour would mean 'unfinished business' good for the goose perhaps. This 'poxy petition' was set up by a LEAVE voter BEFORE the referendum - again goose and gander. Several Leaves said the same sort of thing but are backtracking at a pace (as with their cough, cough, promise). Democracy wasn't served here. We vote for our MP's to make such decisions - it was political in-fighting that has brought us to this sorry state. Boris is sh!t!ng himself and knows to take over , invoke article 50 would result in not only a break with the EU but Scotland. No Tory wants to be remembered as that PM ! Like the referendum there is too much nuance to these matters for the public to be left to decide-
By:
Bedford
When: 28 Jun 16 19:45
Mr Farage is decent man, petition SIGNED
By:
enpassant
When: 28 Jun 16 19:52
Sobbing German woman says she is 'living in fear' and unable to leave home over race hate since Brexit
By:
ZenMaster
When: 28 Jun 16 19:54
It's not racism it's nativism.

Is the German woman of white race?
By:
enpassant
When: 28 Jun 16 19:59
yes
By:
enpassant
When: 28 Jun 16 20:00
Racists have been set free by the repugnant Farage and Boris.
By:
ZenMaster
When: 28 Jun 16 20:01
People blaming Farage and Brexit for an increase in nativism, some aggressive nativism and some racism need to understand that if the the vote was to Remain, then there would be MORE of a presence from these types.
By:
enpassant
When: 28 Jun 16 20:02
Throw dog **** at an old woman- who gives a **** what colour her skin is ffs
By:
ZenMaster
When: 28 Jun 16 20:02
It's not racism then.

She is feeling threatened because she is not a native = nativism.
By:
ZenMaster
When: 28 Jun 16 20:03
You are still using the wrong word.
By:
enpassant
When: 28 Jun 16 20:03
Appeasement then is your solution ?
By:
enpassant
When: 28 Jun 16 20:04
You play with words as much as you want fella-
By:
ZenMaster
When: 28 Jun 16 20:05
You lost the referendum because of the word 'racism'

You wrongly bandied it about to any anti free movement thinkers.
By:
enpassant
When: 28 Jun 16 20:05
History shows the result of statesmen unleashing the blame game.
By:
enpassant
When: 28 Jun 16 20:06
'you'  !
By:
ZenMaster
When: 28 Jun 16 20:06
You do know non racist people get fed up of being accused of racism?

This cost you the referendum
By:
enpassant
When: 28 Jun 16 20:06
nonsense
By:
enpassant
When: 28 Jun 16 20:07
'not every brxit is a racist but every racist is a brexit'
By:
ZenMaster
When: 28 Jun 16 20:07
So they enjoy being called racist if they aren't?

You Remainers are slow to pick up on this.
By:
enpassant
When: 28 Jun 16 20:07
where have I called brexits racist- if you want to play word games show me where.
By:
enpassant
When: 28 Jun 16 20:08
You are the one generalising falla.
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