I really cannot really believe that this has happened.

Sorry it's From the Forum Rambler.

Sorry but can someone please tell me this happened (IN CAPS).

I was off to bed a defeated man at 11pm After the Nigel concession).

Now 8 hours earlier than expected & an extra bag of sand in the bank(They settled that 30 million+ really quick.(Well done Betfair)

It's f**king Sureal.Love it Love it.

We all knew that everyone we spoke to was OUT. Nobody believed us.

And not the Money bit.So really Really Well done the UK.Bigger Balls than anyone knew.Lets make Sunderland the New Capital.

Shab luv ya luv ya.This has been one of the strangest journies of my life.

I was really beginning to believe there S**t.I thought how can it be Remain I only knew 2 Remainers.But couldn't get the bullshit Remain Argument out of my heed.It's so obvious now.But after the terrible Murder & don't forget there cheating at everything.But this country just wouldn't ave it.

I am just so proud of mu fellow country people.

Ditto RD.

The pride I feel in giving the Establishment a bloody nose is beyond words.

A victory for hope over fear.

I'm shouting at the telly now,Sarah Wollerston is on the Beeb.She's abit humble.Traitor,wrong choice Baby.

them scousers and mancs need to have a word with themselves ,think there the new elite

I didn't vote on this market but I am gobsmacked. I don't know a single person who voted Leave. Who and where are all these people? I feel like a stranger in my own country this morning. It appears that this nation's future has been destroyed by the over-65s who aren't going to have to find jobs.

i should say, didn't BET on this market :)

I know people of all ages who voted out

Where in the country are you? I think we need a South of the M4 Independence referendum ;)

Cornwall but I have young family members in the East Midlands who voted out

A pleasing result wouldn't you say B-B ?

Thank you for your hard work on the campaign. My elderly Mam struggled to the voting booth with me yesterday, depute her many health problems, determined to do the right thing.

* despite


(predictive text wins again)

Britain will look back on summer 2016 and wonder what the hell it was thinking. Desperately scared for the future. A victory for nostalgia and racism. Taking the country back to the 1930s. :(

You have a high opinion of yourself - you got it wrong - show some humility ....

don't worry aziraphale

We fought the Facists in Cable Street in 1926. We will fight them again if we have to! Bald and old as we may be!

have a bit of faith in your country aziraphale, thank your mum alun and get her down for postal voting

A victory for nostalgia and racism.


LOLOL. Another one who thinks that people wishing to make their own laws and manage their own borders makes them 'racist'. 

Britain managed its own affairs for hundreds of years before the EU became supreme, whether Labour or Tory governments were in, yet no-one said that we did so out of racism and nostalgia.

So tell me, are Australia, New Zealand, Canada and umpteen African countries all 'racist' because they manage their own affairs and borders then?

What exactly will you miss about being ruled by an unelected bunch of bureaucrats who you will never see making a public statement or be asked to justify what they do? Who we trade with and who we welcome to our country from anywhere in the world should be determined by our own Government and I'm very confident that we will export more not less in 5 years time.

It's not us who decides who trades with us, it is the people we trade with. You can't make people buy your stuff. The Leave campaign made it sound like a divorce where you could still use the family home and shag the ex when it suited you.

Alun> Australia and Canada have mineral wealth. They can export stuff. They are not reliant on financial services after destroying their primary industries like we have. And I don't hold up African countries as economic models we should be following, do you?

I wonder if the workers at the Bavarian Motor Works will insist britain pays a 15% tariff to buy their cars?

Or Eric Cantona's Superstar Famers of Alsace insist we pay 15% more for our Kronenberg?

I wouldn't give a XXXX of that happening!

I can assure you that after 45 years of running a business in Brazil, a trade deal with them will be the best thing that has ever happened for them. The EU will never trade with Brazil without penal tariffs to protect its own inefficient industries.

What a surprise. Wales voted clearly for Brexit but are already holding out their hands for more money.

Aziraphale - I didn't make any comment whatsoever economic models or mineral wealth. As you well know.

Meanwhile, you used the word 'racist' (and you're not the first) to describe this victory for the 'Leave' campaign.

Explain to me please how it is 'racist' to want to manage your own borders and make your own laws?  Are countries such as Australia, New Zealand, Canada and any number of African countries (and dozens of others all around the world) all 'racist' too for being independent sovereign nations?

Not a single word from Boris yet. I wonder why.

Got to hold my hands up here. I thought the markets would have called the result, but in the end it wasn't even that close.

A lot of people on the forum called it correctly from their neck of the woods. My London bubble certainly didn't.

How many British people still live in London?

There is only one thing on his mind right now and that's him.

paddletoe
24 Jun 16 09:39

Not a single word from Boris yet. I wonder why.


Because he got shouted down outside his house. Now he is an Addison Lee taxi no doubt driven by an immigrant, which, I find highly ironic!

aziraphale,try,if possible,to accept that you are totally in the wrong.Your idiotic racist claim is very wide of the mark,and not applicable in this issue.You write as somebody very juvenile,and certainly have no idea what this great country is all about.
   You probably missed the guy from Ghana stating why he and his family were voting out,and giving his many reasons.
To come on here and state that you hadn't met anybody voting out shows that you appear to live in the student and academic world,as opposed to the real world.If I am wrong,then sorry,but that is the appearance from your posts.
Yes,I will criticize the students over this issue as they all appeared to live in a strange world,unaware of reality,not mixing with "ordinary" folk.No surprise there,as many are so unstreetwise,and if it isn't in a book,or a pamphlet,then they can't accept it,just like many of our politicians.
  Get out more,and mix with genuine people.

Student and academic world? Hardly! Yes I went to university (the first in my working-class family ever to do so) but that was 20 years ago.

Perhaps the choice of word "racist" was inadvisable but certainly the Leave campaign has played on nostalgia and xenophobia with its constant refrain of "taking our country back". How does alienating ourselves from our main trading partners, and ensuring that we can no longer compete on a level playing field, benefit our country at all? They seem to be implying that a Leave vote means that the collieries will reopen, manufacturing will rise from the grave  etc etc. I will be happy to be proved wrong but all I see is the start of a new recession that will make the previous financial crisis look like a picnic. I hope for my daughter's sake that I am wrong, because at the moment I see her growing up in an increasingly marginalised backwater.

I really think that there are a whole range of reasons why people voted either in or out and that some may be based on xenophobia but the vast majority of the Brexit votes were about Governance. As I have said before, the EU commission make Blatter and Fifa look like amateurs. Much of the money that they get to spend disappears. That was my sole reason for voting leave.

6th largest economy - with no influence - we had almost none in the eu - we sure are going to have more outside as people will still want to sell their BMWs to us!!

A strange little marginalised backwater that is going to damage the world economy and bring about the collapse of the Eu.
At least that is what remain told us.
Anyone see mark carney's face this morning!!  He sure backed the wrong horse!!

Perhaps the choice of word "racist" was inadvisable



LOLOL, it didn't stop you using that ridiculous word though, did it?  Along with any number of other badly-informed persons who sprayed the word around like confetti, all through the Referendum campaign. So, effectively such persons are saying that all the White, Black, Chinese, Indian, Pakistani heritage etc persons who voted 'Leave' were ALL 'racist'.  Absurd.

Junker on the box realising he might not have a job soon!!!

I think it was more down to the young and also British immigrants....they are simply too bone idle to be bothered to vote.

If it was the clever people voting for Remain, how come they got it so wrong!!???

Remainers still giving it the RACIST! card.

Go an hug Hamza ya Pinkos!

No alun, I am not saying that all Leave voters are racists, that would be absurd. But I suspect more racists voted Leave than voted Remain. Anyway, I hope they enjoy the renewed influx of immigrants once France no longer has any incentive to keep refugees back in Calais...

how do you know that?

Eastern Europeans couldn't vote mobo.

They are more racist than Tommy Robertson!

Or even Tommy Robinson!

interesting point - if you want racists you should have heard sturgeons speech - she hates the english - she is off on one!! and going to act independently of the uk's decision

never thought this would come about..given most ordinary people are not risk takers
and would vote for the status quo as they were afraid of the alternative which they really wanted a shot at
so..WD the nation..respect
the market/economy doom merchants are full of sh1t
they have always been manipulated
sure..there will be some teething problems
but when we look back in a few years time and everything is still functioning except better
we'll think WTF didn't we do this sooner?
we've survived 2 WWs..this is sweet FA

The Remains STILL can't see why there was a majority for leave,still refusing to accept that it is the will of the public.
  The Brexits had their reasons for their views,which were varied,but all the Remains did,and are still doing,is guess,assume,wild speculations,but no real reasons,only to criticize the will of those that wanted out.
  The Remains weren't,and still aren't prepared to admit that this country is full to bursting.The schools are near meltdown,the NH is in meltdown,the roads can't cope with more traffic,nor can the rail network.Housing is in meltdown.Too many workers are on minimum wage,due to an ever increasing workforce.
Nobody objects to skilled people migrating to UK,but they do object to 1,000s of unskilled  from abroad.having access to everything.
  Everyone should be aware of the MEP gravy train,and the rich life they lead in Brussels and Strasbourg.Ask yourself who bails out the poorer members of the EU.Who stands to gain,and who to  lose
Believing that many many Brexiters aren't aware of what has been going on,is typical of those in charge,and many of their supporters,of Remain.It is always dangerous to underestimate the public,and have a smug attitude about it,believing that the public don't know right from wrong.
Of course there were many reasons for the public voting one way or another,but their views,right or wrong,are just that,and the way the Remains continually talked down to Brexiters was pretty disgusting,and still is,as they won't accept that the public has decided.
Did Cameron,or his sidekicks ever say how much being part of the EU costs us annually?No,they only distorted the truth,which wasn't surprising.Again something the public saw through.
  Betfair's summarising made interesting reading.Many big bets on Remain,making it big odds on,but most bets in numbers on Brexit!
  Finally to those that want to play the racist card whenever they disagree with a poster,try talking to the inhabitants of Boston,Lincs.

Lot of Remainers in disbelief, more, angry, blaming...what have you done?

It is not what we have down Remainers it is what you have done....nothing!

Just remember we are many, they are few!

Bad losers is an understatement.Then the losers want to ridicule the millions of working class people that voted out,saying they didn't know what they were doing,and were totally misled.Instead of having a pop they should try talking to the folk that make up the majority in this country,and listen to their reasons.
  The smugness of the so called academics,and those that believe they are better educated,so are entitled to know more about politics,is shameful.As already said,they live in their closeted world,rather than the real everyday world.
  Remember it is the ordinary guys that fix your cars,see to your house repairs.They don't have degrees,or numerous exam qualifications,but they understand everyday life,and they voted leave because that was the way they saw it.
  Racism is the excuse trotted out by the sore losers,as many many Afros voted leave too.
  Millions of workers have been reduced to working for minimum wage mainly due to the ever expanding pool of labour available.
  Regarding the figures being bandied around,most Brexiters realised this country pays in more than it receives,simple to see,and more bail outs will probably be required over the next few years.

The Remainers are the cynical hand wringers now, it's a long old road for them and their new obsession which finding negatives to everything and wanting the infrastructure to fail just so they can say 'told you so'

What damaged souls they are now.

they certainly don't know the politics of unemployment, low wages or lack of housing

now that IS real politics

its even worse for the young people in italy france spain portugal greece etc

What is the point of getting older if you do not acquire intelligence ? Amply demonstrated last thursday.