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Report 4thjulykid December 22, 2014 11:56 AM GMT
Message sent Eeternal

AG

Sounds like a plan. Mate has a hospo table for all days.
Report Eeternaloptimist December 22, 2014 12:04 PM GMT
I've got your email 4th. I've got a croft and I'm going over to feed the animals. When I get back I'll get onto it straight away. I'll leave my christian name on things because you'll have that anyway from my own email address. I'll send you a test email now. Can you let me know if you get it and then I'll get on the case proper in a couple of hours.
Report 4thjulykid December 22, 2014 12:05 PM GMT
Will do
Report Eeternaloptimist December 22, 2014 12:11 PM GMT
Message sent.
Report 4thjulykid December 22, 2014 12:12 PM GMT
And replied to.

Ta
Report paddletoe December 22, 2014 12:13 PM GMT
get a room you two!
Report 4thjulykid December 22, 2014 12:18 PM GMT
There's no vacancy unless my family of haemorrhoids move out.
Report paddletoe December 22, 2014 12:23 PM GMT
Anyway, glad your both on good terms. Its been like watching a test match in cricket which finishes in a draw a day early with the two captains shaking hands!
Report paddletoe December 22, 2014 12:26 PM GMT
Funny how EO always has a habit of coming out of these arguments on top....and looking a great fella when he is doing it.

He's not just good. He's the best.
Report 4thjulykid December 22, 2014 12:39 PM GMT
I've just downloaded my own 'Utter Barrister' certificate.

If Eeternal has one, I want one.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=certificate+of+completion+of+pupillage&espv=2&biw=1242&bih=577&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=qgeYVPXMBs3tatewgLAK&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=JHn1X_Tt5VTBnM%253A%3BtNTmzbqOKenAfM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.justcounsel.co%252Fwp-content%252Fuploads%252F2012%252F03%252FBill-Ryan-Barrister-Certificate-of-call-to-the-Bar-from-Grays-Inn-1.png%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.justcounsel.co%252Fbarrister-wigs-and-other-oddities-3-utter-barristers%252F%3B400%3B564
Report Angel Gabrial December 22, 2014 12:44 PM GMT
Paddy, Julykid is more than holding his own here but both chaps are worthy of honourable praise here. Many doubted Julykid would follow through but he is making all the right noises.
Report Angel Gabrial December 22, 2014 12:44 PM GMT
Paddy, Julykid is more than holding his own here but both chaps are worthy of honourable praise here. Many doubted Julykid would follow through but he is making all the right noises.
Report paddletoe December 22, 2014 1:08 PM GMT
This threading is at least deserving of its title usual suspects because there is more mystery about 4thJuly as there was about Kaisersoze.
Report Eeternaloptimist December 22, 2014 1:24 PM GMT
That certainly appears to be a genuine copy 4thjuly. The only difference with my own is that the same witness Margaret Chadderton has signed it above rather than at the side of the document. I'm now sat with the scanner ready to upload my documents and supporting evidence. let me know if you are still happy to accept what I have as proof.
Report Eeternaloptimist December 22, 2014 1:29 PM GMT
My post disappeared. That certainly appears to be a genuine copy 4thjuly. My certificate is almost the same even down to Margaret Chadderton witnessing it but she signs mine above rather than at the side of the document. If you're happy to accept it I'll upload and send this along with my accompanying information as agreed.
Report Eeternaloptimist December 22, 2014 1:29 PM GMT
I thought my post disappeared.
Report conspiracywackjob December 22, 2014 1:42 PM GMT
I had a post disappear

maybe it wasn't to the taste of july 4

I thought americans upheld freedom of speech
Report Eeternaloptimist December 22, 2014 2:39 PM GMT
What's going on here 4th? If I was looking to scam you I'd have taken your money rather than proposing a sporting bet.
Report 4thjulykid December 22, 2014 2:42 PM GMT
I've just returned from a nice lunch with the missus, I haven't the faintest what is going on.

Missing posts?
Report Eeternaloptimist December 22, 2014 2:57 PM GMT
No problem my end 4th. I posted at 13.24 but it disappeared so I sent another and then it did appear so I've said the same thing twice. My question remains are you happy to go ahead or are you unhappy to proceed? I was pointing out that if I was seeking to scam you I'd have taken your money rather than suggest the sporting bet. Whatever you decide is fine by me. I don't want you unhappy with the bet or for you to be left feeling you may have been done over.
Report 4thjulykid December 22, 2014 3:05 PM GMT
No worries. The Cheltenham scenario is fine by me. As I said if you want to go I can get seats. John Frankham waffles for half an hour, but that's the only downside. The marquee is next to the Best Mate stand.

What was the wacko's post that went?

E mail me when you're ready. I'll let the forum know when you have. They are waiting with baited breath.
Report Eeternaloptimist December 22, 2014 3:20 PM GMT
If anybody has any advice it'll be greatly appreciated. I'v got Windows 8 on my computer and I can't find the documents folder or how to scan into the folder and I'm struggling to make head or tail of importing documents into the computer. I'll keep trying and checking back here if I can't do it.
Report pawras December 22, 2014 3:33 PM GMT
When you scan something your scanner software should tell you want the destination folder is

I use win7 ultimate 64 bit , so may be different , when you start explorer you have a tree list at the left and one has desktop\libraries\documents

If you’ve lost a file open a command window by pressing windows key and R , then type cmd and press ok
Type
cd \
This should take you to the root of your c drive
Type
Dir filename.extension /s
Eg
Dir cert.jpg /s
Report Eeternaloptimist December 22, 2014 3:38 PM GMT
It's complete nonsense this. I never appreciated how dysfunctional Windows 8 was until now. Everything is different. There are Apps everywhere something I've never used. That treet list you suggest is non existent. It's how I would have scanned using my old computer. This is shiit.
Report pawras December 22, 2014 3:46 PM GMT
I must admit I took one look at win8 and went nah f that. I was brought up on command lines so that tiles sh&t and everything been hidden doesn't appeal at all.


There must be some sort of explorer program surely?


Try reading these
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/windows-8/files-folders-windows-explorer
http://digitalunite.com/guides/computer-basics/windows-8/how-use-file-explorer-windows-8
Report Eeternaloptimist December 22, 2014 5:34 PM GMT
I downloaded something which replicates the original windows screen otherwise I'd have been there for a week trying to figure it out.
Report Eeternaloptimist December 22, 2014 5:34 PM GMT
Should be with you now 4th july. Let me know if there's a problem or you need anything else.
Report 4thjulykid December 22, 2014 6:48 PM GMT
Well they are all UPSIDE DOWN. You surely can't expect me to except this?


























































































Only joking
Report 4thjulykid December 22, 2014 6:54 PM GMT
To all at the politics forum

The poster Eeternaloptimist has provided sufficient evidence to my satisfaction to prove he has been a nurse, a law graduate, policeman and is a fireman.

I hope he will accept my sincere apologies for accusing him in the past of having either any or none of the above.

I look forward to having a £2000 bet on a WINNER (please) at Cheltenham .

Eeternal use this post for any of the Betfair forums if the same crops up again.
Report pawras December 22, 2014 7:12 PM GMT
4th - I find your views highly distasteful but I respect you for holding your hand up and saying you were wrong.
Report 4thjulykid December 22, 2014 7:29 PM GMT
Distasteful?

paedophiles view of children is distasteful my friend, my views on life may be different from yours but I don't find yours distasteful. Obnoxious and intolerant, but not distasteful.

AS you seem computer savvy I guess your'e young. When you have lived a little you might mellow.
Report Eeternaloptimist December 22, 2014 7:38 PM GMT
You're a gentleman 4th. Like I said our political views may be different but you've always struck me as a decent sort.
Report Eeternaloptimist December 22, 2014 7:41 PM GMT
And I don't find your political views distasteful. I'm sure we've all exaggerated for comic effect or to stimulate debate but I think most of us are simply looking to make the best of things and desire a fair and equitable society to bequeath to future generations.
Report pawras December 22, 2014 7:42 PM GMT
Wish I was I was young but I'm not. >40
Report Burton-Brewers December 22, 2014 7:57 PM GMT
they're both the same person
Report Eeternaloptimist December 22, 2014 7:58 PM GMT
As are you Burton. Wink
Report alleged22 December 22, 2014 8:03 PM GMT
fantastic CV though EO Cool
Report Angel Gabrial December 22, 2014 8:03 PM GMT
they're both the same person

Ever get the feeling you`ve been cheated!Shocked
Report pawras December 22, 2014 8:05 PM GMT
I can't decide either way
Report alleged22 December 22, 2014 8:10 PM GMT
Theres an easy way to find out Wink
Report Eeternaloptimist December 22, 2014 8:14 PM GMT
Oh for gawds sake. Give over. I only post with this user name. Anybody want to bet? Laugh
Report call me a taxi December 22, 2014 9:01 PM GMT
call me a taxi    22 Dec 14 00:33 
How come the usual suspects
Always turn up on cue, together?


I'm not a barrister, a copper, a nurse or a fireman.

But I've got £10k that says I can prove I'm not EO.
Report paddletoe December 22, 2014 9:21 PM GMT
EO comes out very well from this. He gets his whole work history validated by some man of mystery who turns up out of nowhere and he even makes a few quid out of into the bargain. You could see where this was going 50 posts ago!
Report paddletoe December 22, 2014 9:48 PM GMT
Pick a card someone?

Now look at it but don't tell me what it is.

Pick a card out of the deck for me now and turn it face up on the table.

Its a the 8 of spuds.

Now this is the bet....do you want to have a 2 grand bet that you can beat my card.

You do???

Okay what you got?

10 of diamonds!

F$$k I just lost 2 grand.

That's a summarised version of this stunt we have all just witnessed.
Report Eeternaloptimist December 22, 2014 10:28 PM GMT
No stunt paddle. If a man has the balls to call a bet he deserves respect. This place is full of fruit cakes and **** talking the talk and then limping away.
Report pawras December 22, 2014 10:34 PM GMT
it was all felt a bit too neat in the end, but proving things either way would be an even bigger waste of time than writing in forums generally.

making a bet on something that the other party can know the answer on 100% from outset is rather dumb but that's not to say I haven't seen it and got someone to bet with me like that so who knows.

beyond mild curiousity due to their views to see if the demographics of certain views are consistent with what I've seen in real life, I really couldn't give a f who people are what they do, that's the whole point of it being an anon forum.
Report Eeternaloptimist December 22, 2014 10:38 PM GMT
What do you mean neat? There were only two possible outcomes.
Report paddletoe December 22, 2014 10:39 PM GMT
You set this up brilliantly. That deserves respect.
Report Eeternaloptimist December 22, 2014 10:42 PM GMT
Fucck me this place is full of loonies. Laugh
Report Eeternaloptimist December 22, 2014 10:43 PM GMT
Hang on paddle. Didn't you say I was being played by Mad Lad? Talk about changing horses midstream.
Report paddletoe December 22, 2014 10:45 PM GMT
Yes, this mystery man never called any bet. He was the one laying the bet and it was a pretty stupid bet to lay and the way he knew so much about so many things on this thread did not mark him out as stupid.
And the big build up went very flat as if you were struggling to find a proper ending to this piece of theatre.
Report paddletoe December 22, 2014 10:47 PM GMT
Yes eo, I was wrong ( I think ). Give you credit for that. You had me looking at the wrong person in this two person play.
Report Eeternaloptimist December 22, 2014 10:48 PM GMT
Keyser Soze. Wink
Report Eeternaloptimist December 22, 2014 10:53 PM GMT
I'll tell you what though paddle. You can have even money. I say me and 4thjuly are not the same person. So ask yourself a question. Do I feel lucky? Well? Do ya?
Report Ivor December 22, 2014 11:01 PM GMT
Looks like 4July has been bribed Grin
Report paddletoe December 22, 2014 11:02 PM GMT
Cant right now. Betting on the darts. Its a lot easier and I don't need to wait for 6 months to get paid if I win!
Report Dotchinite December 22, 2014 11:03 PM GMT
Whether any of this is true ive no idea but there is no way 4thjuly will have  a 2 grand bet at Cheltenham. Not a chance.
Report pawras December 22, 2014 11:05 PM GMT
it's just a gut feel that it felt a bit neat somehow, re some of the posts and 4ths response in the end and the all proof was just between the two parties.

in the end it could be :-

exactly as it's laid out to be
two people that actually know each other and a set up from the start
one person and a set up from the start


or is that there really is no else here??????????????  Laugh
Report pawras December 22, 2014 11:06 PM GMT
2k would be too rough for me, 1k is the most I've ever gone on one horse.
Report paddletoe December 22, 2014 11:09 PM GMT
Put it this way - I would not be buying any Christmas presents on the strength of someone I don't know meeting me at Cheltenham and giving me a 1000 quid!

Not saying it wont happen. But I just would not like to make plans on it happening.
Report paddletoe December 22, 2014 11:11 PM GMT
No offence 4th july if your reading this. You should actually take what I have said as a compliment if you do end up meeting eo at Cheltenham because it would be a lovely thing to be proved wrong about being sceptical about.
Report Dotchinite December 22, 2014 11:12 PM GMT
Will you be at Cheltenham paddletoe. Someone needs to verify this bet.
Report paddletoe December 22, 2014 11:19 PM GMT
No Doctrine. I used to go to race meetings quite often but i don't go anymore. I normally go once a year to the racing on the beech at Laytown but that's about it.

Seems a nice offer though to be treated to a box at Cheltenham in festival week.
Report Eeternaloptimist December 22, 2014 11:23 PM GMT
Sadly I won't be at Cheltenham myself as I can't leave the wife for that length of time. Like I said earlier I couldn't in good conscience take a man's money like that when I know he doesn't have any chance. This way 4th either does as he promised or he doesn't. It'd be nice if he did and if the selection won it would be not just a tremendously uplifting story but a nice bonus but my conscience is clear either way.
Report Eeternaloptimist December 22, 2014 11:25 PM GMT
Of course if 4th is agreeable I'd be happy for someone else from the forum to step into my shoes and enjoy his hospitality and cheer the selection on.
Report paddletoe December 22, 2014 11:27 PM GMT
Yes, it would be EO. And there are some people in the world who are just nice and if it does happen I hope you both back a winner.

Reckon I will leave it at that.
Report Dotchinite December 22, 2014 11:28 PM GMT
I would volunteer but sadly 4th hates me and would probably beat me up on sight so it will need to be someone else.
Report Angel Gabrial December 22, 2014 11:37 PM GMT
Larry you would only be away for day, and i am sure July would invite your wife as well. Go for it mate.
Report Eeternaloptimist December 22, 2014 11:40 PM GMT
Nothing would give me greater pleasure Angel but the wife wouldn't take well to the crowds and I'm sure she'd also feel self conscious being pushed around at the races.
Report Angel Gabrial December 22, 2014 11:45 PM GMT
To be fair i struggle with the crowds these days as well, so i can only imagine from  the perspective of someone in a wheelchair would not be an enjoyable one.
Report Eeternaloptimist December 22, 2014 11:47 PM GMT
She hates the jumps as well ever since One Man died at Aintree.
Report Angel Gabrial December 22, 2014 11:55 PM GMT
Coincidentally i dislike busy racing day crowds since being pick pocketed at Aintree in 2005 for £400. Collected £400 after Ashley Brook hosed up, never saw the money again.
Report paddletoe December 22, 2014 11:55 PM GMT
Night EO. have a nice Christmas if I don't see you again before then.

I was wrong about Mickstick. I was wrong about NL/Melanus but paddletoe is never wrong three times in a row! Only kidding. I hope I am wrong 3 times in a row and whats more I have seen some of 4th july,s post and he seems a very nice guy so I hope he does not let you down, not just because of the money but because you seem to both get on well.

One last thing. I love the way you talk about your wife.

Happy Christmas.
Report Eeternaloptimist December 23, 2014 12:03 AM GMT
She was it and that was that.

Robert Mitchum said it first about his own wife but nobody said it more succinctly or better.

Have a good one paddle.
Report call me a taxi December 23, 2014 1:12 AM GMT

Dotchinite    22 Dec 14 23:03 
Whether any of this is true ive no idea but there is no way 4thjuly will have  a 2 grand bet at Cheltenham. Not a chance.


I'll be there, and he can have the bet with me.
Report Burton-Brewers December 23, 2014 7:51 AM GMT
there's no one here!!!!!
Report alleged22 December 23, 2014 10:14 AM GMT
I,ll be there as well cmat, perhaps we could both see this 2 grand wager placed Wink
Report Angel Gabrial December 23, 2014 11:13 AM GMT
Hell i might go, just for the craic
Report alleged22 December 23, 2014 11:41 AM GMT
the more the merrier AG Happy
Report Burton-Brewers December 23, 2014 12:38 PM GMT
so that's a total of one so far providing the 12thofnever turns up
Report call me a taxi December 23, 2014 4:11 PM GMT
Laugh
Report Burton-Brewers December 23, 2014 9:06 PM GMT
You ask how much I need, oh must I explain?
I need 2 grand my darling, like roses need rain.
You ask how long I'll love you; I'll tell you true:
I am the twelfth of never, and I am shafting shafting you

Wink
Report call me a taxi December 23, 2014 9:51 PM GMT
The offer of a £2 grand bet is meaningless.

Pick a short priced horse, then lay it for £2k on here.

Go to Cheltenham, back it with a bookie for £2k at a fraction below the exchange odds, suffer a small loss and save face.

Handing over £2k in cash to EO would be better imo.
Report paddletoe December 24, 2014 12:39 AM GMT
EO if you want to know what it feels like to double your money in this bet I will loan you two grand and you can fold all the notes in half.
Report call me a taxi December 24, 2014 5:05 PM GMT
call me a taxi   
23 Dec 14 21:51 
Handing over £2k in cash to EO would be better imo.


But you can still have the bet with me if you get to the Festival.
Report paddletoe December 24, 2014 8:58 PM GMT
Suppose you have all heard the saying a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush!
Report alun2005 March 7, 2015 11:07 AM GMT
With the Cheltenham Festival a mere handful of days away, we all look forward to the gathering of the clans.

In particular, the Politics Forum breathlessly awaits news of which horse will be carrying the £2000 of the forumite 4thJulykid's money, an obligation of course made necessary as a result of the agreement detailed above. Fingers crossed it will win and result in a handsome return for both beneficiaries.

Good luck.
Report Eeternaloptimist March 7, 2015 2:19 PM GMT
As am I Alun but sadly as of yet I've heard nothing and haven't had a reply to an email I sent to 4thjuly last weekend. Hopefully he's intending to honour his word.
Report alun2005 March 7, 2015 3:23 PM GMT
EO - I'm sure he'll come good. The alternative simply doesn't bear thinking about.

We certainly don't want any repeat of the utterly disgraceful scenes we all witnessed on the Chit Chat Forum a couple of Christmases ago.

One of the Politics Forum's most liberal/left-leaning posters (we'll call him Forumite X) inexplicably and presumptuously decided he knew more about Forumite Y and his family's life than was the case. Forumite X bet "a great deal of money" on an outcome (unstated, but by definition most people would therefore say a four or five figure amount) and humiliatingly lost the bet. Sound familiar?

Despite Forumite X being an avowed "progressive", a lover of Multicultural London (from a safe distance of living several hundred miles away), a man with a passion for Africa, you know….all the right stuff…. has since avoided posting on here although his forum name remains extant. I have no wish to name and shame him here, he has already humiliated himself, and there's no way back for that sort. Goodness only knows what his peers would say of his failure to pay. 

Curious that Forumite X should have been completely silent since losing his bet. Hitherto, you could barely go a day without reading one of his lofty and often wincingly politically correct pronouncements.

Good luck to you both with the bet. Fingers crossed it isn't one of my Lays !!
Report Burton-Brewers March 7, 2015 3:39 PM GMT
come on name him!!!!
Report Eeternaloptimist March 7, 2015 4:00 PM GMT
Such a fiend deserves to be outed You would never have heard the last of it had the other party not taken him on.

I must confess my faith is wavering a little regarding 4thjuly. You'd have thought he would have been on here by now. Shocked
Report pawras March 7, 2015 4:17 PM GMT
LMFAO !

come on fess up, who was it?
Report spellingandgrammarchecker March 15, 2015 10:46 AM GMT
Left wing bottle job.
Report alun2005 March 15, 2015 11:34 AM GMT
There's a surprise. This makes TWO lefties who have proposed large bets this last couple of years on this Community website, lost them both (crushingly) and then disappeared without trace (to date). Zero integrity.
Report Eeternaloptimist March 15, 2015 1:27 PM GMT
I think Burky puts it best when he says:

Fookin chickenshiit counts. Laugh
Report macarony March 15, 2015 1:43 PM GMT
Soudslike sibaroni from the ghetto of Chester?
Report spellingandgrammarchecker March 21, 2015 7:07 PM GMT
Aye.
Report alun2005 April 16, 2015 5:47 PM BST
Bumped up for Pokermonster
Report Pokermonster April 16, 2015 6:20 PM BST
Many thanks, Alun.
Report spellingandgrammarchecker April 17, 2015 12:29 AM BST
I'm sure you agree that was a good read sir.
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