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It's random. HTH.
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If its so predictable,why do you lose?
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I'm going to fold KK pre flop now if someone at the table has a bigger stack as they will have AA. Dunno why I hadn't considered this previously. OP has literally changed my life for the better.
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This bigstack problem is also in fulltilt. It happens often.
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[ ] Incredible scenes.
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pre generated , at times ,lol.
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I can see this thread going somewhere, time to sit back, relax and watch the show. Popcorn pics anyone??
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I have followed the OP's advice and started folding KK pre flop if I am not the biggest stack at the table. However following this logic to it's natural conclusion means that whatever hand I hold apart from AA will be dominated by the bigger stacks, so I now fold everything apart from AA pre flop, unless all of the people left to act have smaller stacks than me.
It took some adjusting to, but I now feel confident I am playing optimally having factored in the r1gg3d RNG. The OP should write a poker book IMHO. Anyone suggest a title for it ? |
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Can you tell me how exactly that applies to online poker?
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Mmm great, I've now got a migraine.
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If you read the article properly (even the last paragraph) it tells you exactly how that applies to online poker.
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There are devices that generate numbers that claim to be truly random. They rely on unpredictable processes like thermal or atmospheric noise rather than human-defined patterns.
I believe BENTFAIR / OFFGAME use the above... Personally I still think its r i g g e d for the fishes |
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If you don't know what card comes next then it doesn't matter if the RNG is a fixed pattern.
I have proof that the RNG is fair but I'm all ears if you can prove it otherwise. |
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If it's a fixed pattern then it is not generating random numbers (ergo it is not a RNG) but your proof of a predictable but fair RNG sounds interesting.
Do share. |
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I'm not in the juiced brigade and I've never been in the juiced brigade. I've 300,000 hands stored in Holdem Manager, I ran the races report and lo and behold almost every all in situation matched as it should do ie. AA v any pocket pair is roughly 80% favourite, and hey presto they held up approximately 80% of every time they were all in. I can break down those stats further but I would imagine after 1,000,000 hands or 10 Million these numbers will become so close to the actual statistical norm that if it wasn't a fair RNG or a juiced RNG then my stats would pick up on it.
Just forget about the RNG. It's the same for everyone. It's impossible to predict the next sequence of numbers on the receiving end and the only way to hack the system is on the poker site's servers. If you lose consistently then YOU are the problem. Not the RNG or your opponents or the poker gods in the sky but YOU. |
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“If you go to an online poker site, for example, and you know the algorithm and seed, you can write a program that will predict the cards that are going to be dealt.”
He doesn't and he hasn't ( nap ) |
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*pocket AA
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[ x ] It's never their fault .
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in this day and age why would anyone assume that the cards are random ? In what way would that help betfairs profits ?
All poker sites are a business to make money , nothing more ,n nothing less ... they are what they are ! Make your own opinion ,lol |
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I think the policy of folding KK pre flop must even apply if you are level chips with your opponent :
TEXAS_HOLDEM, NO_LIMIT, T5-298538439-1 played at "Table #1" for USD TC from 2012-12-31 13:48 until 2012-12-31 13:49 Seat 5: chipfire227 (1,500 in chips) Seat 8: HajduJan2 (1,500 in chips) ANTES/BLINDS ANTES/BLINDS HajduJan2 posts small blind (10), chipfire227 posts big blind (20), PRE-FLOP HajduJan2 raises to 60, chipfire227 raises to 180, HajduJan2 calls 180. FLOP [board cards: 5D,9S,8D] chipfire227 bets 180, HajduJan2 raises to 1,320 and is all-in, chipfire227 calls 1,320 and is all-in. TURN [board cards: 5D,9S,8D,2H] RIVER [board cards: 5D,9S,8D,2H,7C] SHOWDOWN HajduJan2 shows [ 5S,7S ] chipfire227 shows [ KS,KD ] HajduJan2 wins 3,000. |
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It is ramdom 5% ers randomly river 50 % 0f the time ,never seen so many short stacks wiped by rubbish in my life ...
A true reflection of the site is the amount of people who are regulary involved with shxt hands ,they cant all be fish ,can they ? |
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Read "The Poker Mindset", best book I read in 2012, it will improve your game immensely.
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Any 2 suited is the way forward :
TEXAS_HOLDEM, NO_LIMIT, T5-298567144-2 played at "Table #1" for USD TC from 2012-12-31 16:50 until 2012-12-31 16:51 Seat 1: olivier451 (1,530 in chips) Seat 3: chipfire227 (1,500 in chips) Seat 4: lostkiddo2 (1,500 in chips) Seat 5: Kooyote (1,500 in chips) Seat 8: mixos_84 (1,490 in chips) Seat 10: player1936 (1,480 in chips) ANTES/BLINDS player1936 posts small blind (10), olivier451 posts big blind (20), PRE-FLOP chipfire227 raises to 50, lostkiddo2 folds, Kooyote folds, mixos_84 raises to 80, player1936 folds, olivier451 folds, chipfire227 calls 80. FLOP [board cards: 7C,AS,TC] chipfire227 checks, mixos_84 bets 40, chipfire227 calls 40. TURN [board cards: 7C,AS,TC,2C] chipfire227 checks, mixos_84 bets 270, chipfire227 calls 270. RIVER [board cards: 7C,AS,TC,2C,6H] chipfire227 bets 250, mixos_84 raises to 600, chipfire227 raises to 1,110 and is all-in, mixos_84 calls 1,100 and is all-in. SHOWDOWN chipfire227 shows [ QC,KC ] mixos_84 mucks cards [ AH,AC ] chipfire227 wins 3,010. |
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More totally random shyte from BF $20 STT land :
TEXAS_HOLDEM, NO_LIMIT, T5-298527744-4 played at "Table #1" for USD TC from 2012-12-31 12:25 until 2012-12-31 12:25 Seat 2: sttass (1,310 in chips) Seat 4: marksomm (1,550 in chips) Seat 5: OUKB22 (1,480 in chips) Seat 6: dub-kings (1,460 in chips) Seat 9: chipfire227 (1,710 in chips) Seat 10: robrat7777 (1,490 in chips) ANTES/BLINDS OUKB22 posts small blind (10), dub-kings posts big blind (20), PRE-FLOP chipfire227 raises to 50, robrat7777 folds, sttass raises to 150, marksomm folds, OUKB22 folds, dub-kings folds, chipfire227 calls 150. FLOP [board cards: AH,JH,4S] chipfire227 checks, sttass bets 150, chipfire227 raises to 300, sttass raises to 450, chipfire227 raises to 1,560 and is all-in, sttass calls 1,160 and is all-in. TURN [board cards: AH,JH,4S,7D] RIVER [board cards: AH,JH,4S,7D,7C] SHOWDOWN chipfire227 shows [ KC,AS ] sttass shows [ KS,TD ] chipfire227 wins 2,650. |
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It dont change the fact that the guy is right. Big stack wipes out everything that calls late in tournaments. If you cant see that then you are blind or have an agenda.HTH
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I could post 1000 hand histories that proves otherwise, but what's the point ? Losing players always blame the RNG.
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it's true, big stacks always win vs all-ins late in tournaments. Whenever I get the chip lead, I shove every hand and have won my last 1747 tournaments using this method. thankfully, nobody else has cottoned on to this trick. I suspect I will soon own all the money that exists in the online poker world.
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Its juiced to the hilt ,get over it.
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Shaky • January 3, 2013 12:32 PM GMT
it's true, big stacks always win vs all-ins late in tournaments. Whenever I get the chip lead, I shove every hand and have won my last 1747 tournaments using this method. thankfully, nobody else has cottoned on to this trick. I suspect I will soon own all the money that exists in the online poker world. |
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Shaky and chip can test the theory when they are the only 2 left .People leaving in droves.Says it all really.
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seems strange to leave just when you have noticed a method of guaranteeing victory.
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