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You might be right there chip!
Still, this event is global and will have a lot of TV coverage. I was obvious guessing about the amount of money, but I would be real surprised if its "pocket money". Anyway, crossing my fingers for the best, there is no place like BF to play poker, the promotions adds tons of value! |
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they have an australian daily tornament,i think they want in on australian market but being a european site traffic dies for peak hrs in a aussie market in poker
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2 1/2 years ago i was one of the biggest opponents to the move to Ongame, since the bad software already then was famous of big total crab.
For me Betfair is bye far the best site to play, and i will follow them anywere. Thou i think a movement at this time would be a tactical error. I believe that the american politicans either will make poker legal or put online poker to sleep the next many years. If the US online poker market would be opended again, new players will arrive. Not all action will go tp Pokerstars (FT) If Betfair moves to ipoker at this moment, they migth have the same problem in a year or two. One can only will certainty say that pokerstars and partypoker will surveive as networks if the american politicans decide to legalise online poker. (bare with the poor grammar and spelling errors, i am a scandi) |
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Pity the poor people that bought in when the company was first floated but I think the shares have got a lot lower to go yet. The novelty of exchange betting has worn off, the bookies have narrowed the gap in terms of innovation, markets and promotions, poker has been a disaster and the new Beta site is horrible, but the biggest problem is Betfair have no shops. They are missing out on the "no questions answered" cash that goes through FOBTs? I could probably put £10,000 through 1 in a day without anyone blinking an eyelid, but try buying a new car from a dealer with 10 grand in readies? WH @ 3.50 or BF @ 6.70? I know which I'd rather have.
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I've gone to Stars and am posting on a forum (not 2p2) where I've improved no end.
Ongaming had some decent XMas promos but I ignored them. Betfair/ Ongaming have so many stability issues, terrible software and bad customer services I've given up. I'll be playing Stars for the foreseeable future. And Wulfy, you were the best poker player I ever came across on the old Betfair (Pokerchamps) but things move on, I sort of decyphered that you don't play on Ongaming either. |
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Agree about the bookies fighting back. The margins on football have been cut right back by the High Street and once you take comission into account, especially on multiples theres no real advantage to be had on BF. I backed Walsall tonight for instance and there was no difference between prices with the books and with BF. The bookies have also become very adept at identifying and limiting bets on people arbbing.
With racing, the best price guarantees will be winning back a lot of casual punters, especially firms like b365 who regularly give out free bets and bonuses, ditto Laddies with their odds on card for regs. The other huge advantage they have over BF is that their customer service is normally excellent by comparison. They resolve your queries much quicker, apologise whenthey are wrong, and generally compensate you. Firms like b365 and s James actually make you feel valued as a customer. BF on the other hand are a nightmare to deal with in my experience. |
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You reckon Ongame had some decent Xmas promos Oval ? Jeez, I must have missed them.
All I saw was that STT nonsense where the Leaderboard didnt work, and you had to send them a spreadsheet you kept yourself to eventually get paid out 50 quid, and the Xmas Cracker MTT thing, which were 1000+ runner games that ran for about 7 hours and had either $500 or $1000 added. If you take into consideration the money clawed back in entry fees, there was about 30 pence a day on average in valueback for the loyal customer prepared to sit there and play a shytefest on Christmas Eve,Christmas Day, New Years Eve, New Years Day, Boxing Day etc. Comapred to Xmas promos in the past they were absolute bobbins. Who can remember Prize Mountain from a couple of years back where you got an X-box or a Netbook for playing about 100 games in a month ? Or Santas Sit and Go Sack thing where you got payola for winning 3 STT's in a row ? Think I got about $500 out of that little beauty.  |
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TBF Chip any promo run by a site is there to reward the site and not the players, Betfair were over generous in the past.
The $1k added with 1000 runners wasn't bad by today's standards and much better than anything that Stars has to offer. I've shown a lot of loyalty, they've been good to me in the past and I want Betfair to succeed. I've completed all the surveys, spoke on the forum but they've stuck 2 fingers up to me and everyone. I'm gone, I want to come back but I've no reason too. The sticky at the top and lack of moderation where you can say whatever you want to diss the site says a lot on how much they want the poker to be part of their products. |
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Yeah but dont forget Oval the Ongame STT player is paying the highest entry fees on the net. You play a $20 Turbo STT and your fee is $2,even for D2N and heads up, so 10%. Most other sites charge 5-6%. We were told in the past that higher entry fee was justified because the network gave that money back to the players via promotions. So its our money they are meant to be spending.
In terms of the $1000 added Cracker game I played, the entry fee was $5.50 and there were 1200 runners. So they clawed back $600 straight away on the fees, meaning their spend was $400 across 1200 players, which works out about 20 pence per player. Like you I wanted them to turn things around but it ain't happening. Gonna try Full Tilt for the next month or two. Probably still play a bit on here as got some leaderboard and rake money in the account, and theres a few other players I like to chat to at the tables every now and then. |
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Thank you for those kind words Ovalman, especilly at the moment were my poker confidence is on its lowest.
Comparing to other pokersites at Ongame or other Networks, Betfair is in my opinion the site that gives most value back to "middle and lowrollers". The rake at HU games is ofcource to high, but if you are mainly a 6 or 10 handed STT player the rake is abouth the same as overall. What Betfair did wrong in the past, was that they made some really nice promotions, but got little attention, due to bad managment. Who dosent remeber the "Million dollar freeroll". The promo did cost them overall 2$ million When the final was play in London (2009) there was only twitter coverage. So you make a 2 million promotion for the average players, and then you dont even pimp up your own final. Pokerstars got abouth 30-70 times as many customers as Betfair. When they spend the same amount in a promotion, they get alot more action on there site, even if the value in average is very low. So the main problem for Betfair has been bad marketing of really juice promotions. |
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Yeah I cant complain about the promos in the past, I got a WSOPE package from STAX promo, and WSOP package from that one in 2011. I remember when me you and entabenni used to take a 33% share of each other in MTT promos Wulfman, the good old days when there always seemed to be something happening !!
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You were right. RIP Ongame.
Of course no indication of when: "Dear xxx , New Betfair Poker on iPoker is about to arrive at Betfair. Offering more players, more tables, cash games 24/7 and a greater range of tournaments - not to mention Speed Poker - New Betfair Poker will be an amazing experience. New Betfair Poker will be the largest recreational network, and you'll be a part of it. Watch this space – the future is just around the corner. The New Betfair Poker team" |
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I wonder how the new betfair poker team differs from the old betfair poker team.
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The new team are very active already, they just removed the Kunku Wap sticky that was at the top of the forum - 6 weeks after the promotion ended.
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Yes !! very good news.
Ipoker traffic on the up after the recent arrival of Everest poker, this is good news. Its had some software issues but hopefully things are improving. |
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http://www.pokerupdate.com/news/networks-and-rooms/betfair-announces-ipoker-migration/
Wow, by 21st january, this is gonna be a mega fast one, so for sure they had it all planned, as OP suggested. |
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According to that we will still have the option to play Ongame STT for another 5-6 months so a bit like the BWIN migration.
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The recreational-focused player pool consists predominantly of sports and casino gamblers, and is known for its softer-than-average games.
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this is a great move, well done BF.
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Anyone know/hazard a guess whether we will get same cakeback on IPoker with Betfair?
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pokerstein,how the fk would any of us on here know about ****,betfair management wont even know, i could give you a guess if you want,you sound a right proper tight git to me
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When they moved to Ongame they clearly stated all existing deals would be honoured, though they subsequently did their best to persuade players to switch to Players Club. I would imagine they will continue to honour those cake deals for anyone still playing with them.
Be more interesting to see what they do with people currently in Players Club and those of us who already play on I-Poker using a different skin. |
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Be more interesting to see what they do with leaderboards when people will be able to choose where to play, ongame or ipoker, will leaderboards combine results, or what? :)
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i poker has more disconnections problems than ongame
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gnashersblackpool • January 8, 2013 12:19 PM GMT
i poker has much more bots than ongame fyp |
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The main difference between "The old betfair poker management team" and the "New betfair poker management team" is that the
new team got lovely new BETFAIR HOODIES, and all new copies of "poker for dummies" books!  |
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The Leaderboards haven't functioned when they have only had to cope with one lot of data and publish them daily, so no way will they cope with 2 lots. The weekly STT LB finishes at midnight on Thursday and the result isn't normally published until the following Monday as it is.
I repeatedly told them at the Q and A sessions if they cant update a Leaderboard regularly you defeat part of the objective in having them in the first place. Had I known where I was on the board last Wenesday night for instance I would have had a good incentive to play on the Thursday. As it stands I dont even look at them other than to see how much I won every Monday. |
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The new betfair poker team
I think some people misread this Its not a new team of managers of betfair poker Its New New New betfair poker team which are the same team as new betfair poker and old betfair poker Hope you got that clear now |
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Ok, Betfair is going world worst pokersite, so In future me and my friends are playing poker only in FullTilt / PokerStars or new PartyPokerBwin !!
Goodbye Betfair !!! |
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While on the subject of Leaderboards I sent the new, new, new, poker team the following mail :
Hi There are a number of Cypriot exchange shop logins on the current weekly STT Leaderboard e.g : e.rois11 e.rois03 e.rois19 e.rois04 e.rois22 e.rois10 e.rois08 e.rois18 e.rois01 As these are used by multiple players during the course of each week they must surely be exempt from receiving payments under the terms and conditions, and should not be on there ? |
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3 more days, anyone excited?
I still wonder how will they handle promotions, will they have a joint leaderboards or what? |
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Dear Chipfire, I think you will find the below peeps listed below are totally different people and total coincidence that they decided on their aliases being very similar , 1 in a million chance
There are a number of Cypriot exchange shop logins on the current weekly STT Leaderboard e.g : e.rois11 e.rois03 e.rois19 e.rois04 e.rois22 e.rois10 e.rois08 e.rois18 e.rois01 |
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The first mail I got back from them said we cant discuss anyones elses account with you, but we can assure you they aint dodgy. I sent one back saying I wasn't asking you to discuss their accounts, they already told me at the table the logins are used by mutiple players. I aint even bothered about them having multiple user logins cos they will all be sh1t players, I just dont think they is eligible for the Leaderboard.
They said after that they were going to investigate but nowt happened and they still on there. Moral of the story is to set up an account for you and your friends and family to all play on. Draw up a rota if you like. The people running the site dont give a fk. My login in will be chipandallhismatessharinganaccountforleaderboardpurposes007 |
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^^^ That comment will get pulled over the weekend (nap)
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