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By:
chipfire227
When: 03 Aug 12 22:50
What is this Summer Slam of which you speak ?
By:
Ovalman.
When: 03 Aug 12 23:32
http://poker.betfair.com/en/promotions/summer_slam_2012.php
By:
chipfire227
When: 03 Aug 12 23:45
I see they are pishing away 10k of promotions money on some new fangled poker for morons game they have invented which ( and I quote ) :

All players start off with the same size stack (5 Big Blinds) and, although the game is played exactly like Texas Hold 'em, the twist is that players are forced to move all in on marginal hands resulting in more action.

This concept creates a new game dynamic where virtually anyone can win. It's perfect for the recreational player who may get outplayed or hustled by more experienced players post-flop.


Which I believe in laymans terms means :

A quicker game with the skill element removed where you generate more money for us in a shorter space of time- essentially its like casino games where everyone eventually loses except us. We end up fking quids in, yes sir, its all about us, and no mis fking stake.However some of the idiots will get gadgets they probably don't fking need anyway.
And no, we havent fixed the table freeze issue, as we dont really want people playing games that last more than 15 minutes- wheres the profit in that for us ?


Greedy, greedy, fkers.
By:
Ovalman.
When: 04 Aug 12 00:00
I played 3 and lost 3 hands ahead and gave up.

The site is definitely the big winner but I'm just wondering is there an edge? That's a serious question BTW as if there is an edge then it's a definite rake back machine for those that can break even.
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chipfire227
When: 04 Aug 12 10:19
They have serious faults with the software ( freezing tables, no hand histories) they wont even acknowledge let alone fix. They have failed to deliver basic stuff like synchronised breaks, and late registration, which we were told was on their " road map " yet have no problems introducing blackjack/roulette hyper links onto your table, ultra turbo STT's, the Essence system, and now this virtual coinflip nonsense.

Its all about generating profit for them, and making it harder and harder for people who have studied and learnt to play the game properly to make a profit.The donks will be gradually drawn to these essentially gambling games and away from anything resembling poker. In short the site want them losing their money to Betfair slowly but surely, rather than to us via the gradual removal of all post flop play.

This may make them money in the short term but I cant see it working in the long term, especially if there thinking is based on the premise that all the recreational player wants is a quick series of flips. The reality is that what a lot of recreational players actually want are things like :

Reliable software
Decent customer service
Well structured games
Games built around their available leisure time - e.g. late registration, synchronised breaks
A Community feel which recreates the feel of live play i.e. playing opponents who will use the table chat
Interesting promotions that challenge them

I could go on but it seems pointless. They have a strategy to remove the skill and enjoyment out of poker and seem hell bent on destroying it. They think folk just want to sit there watching an endless stream of coinflips- that cant be the case in the long term can it ?
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