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Helmuthian Folds
20 May 12 00:14
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Three way all in 99 v KJ vAK in a live game, I have folded J9 and a 9 has been accidentally been exposed. I say I folded the case 9 and I was lambasted by three of them. 
Am I out of order?

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By:
JPJ
When: 20 May 12 00:42
Yep Laugh
By:
HarryHatless
When: 20 May 12 01:20
Nothing wrong with that.  If they are already all-in and there are no more decisions to be made then you can say whatever you want.
By:
Helmuthian Folds
When: 20 May 12 01:21
Great to hear from the legend himself!
By:
shudacuda
When: 20 May 12 04:26
Out of order.

You should,nt say what you have folded till the cards are dealt.


You would get lambasted in any card room.
By:
floppyears
When: 20 May 12 06:48
AK - was just acting but secretly loves you
KJ - now sick to his stomach, pretty much hates the both of you
99 - Genuinely detests you. Until a 9 appears
By:
chipfire227
When: 20 May 12 14:06
Think there would be a stewards enquiry if a 9 did come. Shocked

Yes out of order Thrappers. Dont know how you dont get filled in more often.
By:
ajcairns.
When: 20 May 12 15:17
when did you say what you said?  If everyone is already all in I cant see what the problem is.
By:
shudacuda
When: 20 May 12 16:14
ajcairns

You obviously don't play live a lot.
By:
Helmuthian Folds
When: 20 May 12 16:40
Of course they were all all in and the cards were on there backs.

I have heard dozens of times people say oh I folded a certain card in these situations and no-one ever object.

I was actually quite taken aback to be honest and was actually knocked out of my stride a bit.

I personally would want to know if I was drawing virtually dead but obviously some/most people wouldn't.

Looks like I have learnt something new anyway.
By:
ajcairns.
When: 20 May 12 16:41
You are right shuda, but once there was no more action, whats the problem?
By:
Helmuthian Folds
When: 20 May 12 16:52
The concesus on the table AJ was that I had ruined the guys 20 seconds of thinking he could win.

The first two that were the ones really having a go at me weren't even in the hand.

They then asked the 99 guy if he wanted to know and he said definitely not so I suppose I was wrong but logically to me it doesn't really make sense.
By:
Helmuthian Folds
When: 20 May 12 16:53
I genuinely thought I was doing him a favour??

Maybe I am even more retarded than I realised!
By:
Keith A
When: 20 May 12 17:15
Outrageous behaviour. Angry

You should learn from me and be quiet at the tables at all times Excited
By:
bully666
When: 20 May 12 18:55
You're out of order! You're out of order! The whole trial is out of order! They're out of order!
By:
Dooberama
When: 20 May 12 21:22
No. 

If you want to hack them off more I'd suggest earphones and ipad. Everytime it comes to you say is it me? check your cards then ask what the action was.  Then take a good 20 seconds to fold anyway. 

Better still get the stars app for your ipad, and when it comes to you say just keep staring at the app, if anyone dares to speak say sorry I have a big decision here.  Second thoughts don't say sorry.

You'll fit in grand.
By:
JPJ
When: 20 May 12 22:47
It's like telling someone a football score of a game they've recorded to watch.Laugh

And hello Thrappers me ole mate, hope you are winning plenty.
By:
Bruce Willis
When: 20 May 12 23:14
Live poker really exists ?Shocked
By:
JPJ
When: 20 May 12 23:44
It's the way forward. Happy
By:
The Klup
When: 21 May 12 19:55
I'm surprised the question comes from you thrappers.

It is definitely considered NOT good etiquette to make a statement like that but like AJ i personally dont have issue with it.


I did however, privately tell someone off in UKIPT for doing just that :-)
By:
JoKeR373
When: 21 May 12 21:19
to ome u done nothing wrong
but i only play online
and if i had 99 u spoiled my game
By:
GHADDAFFI.
When: 23 May 12 01:02
I remember the days when you were hung and quartered for an offence like thatLaugh
By:
shudacuda
When: 23 May 12 13:16
^^^^^^^^^

Nowadays you only get beaten up and shot.
By:
NickFiickTheOriginal
When: 23 May 12 22:11
Obv not a game for gentlemen.
Nought wrong to me if no further action other than dealer.
Giving information that you do not need to.
Could be false.
If the hand was on ongame the flop would have been T87

If you had a complaint against you someone would need to deal with it.

And you may have made your opponents feel like the Bayern Munich players in Champions League final in Barcelona or as last Saturday.
By:
Givethedogabone
When: 23 May 12 23:09
Flappers stick to Disco Dancing (see Prague Video) and Betfair live blogs..
No did nothing wrong mate, after all everyone was all-in, chips in the middle, sounds like sour grapes to me.
Dont worry about it, Send them to me if they still moan.....
By:
Helmuthian Folds
When: 23 May 12 23:18
Well firstly no need to send them anywhere as even a weed like me could have sorted these three out.

The guy who started it was a condescending tw@t tbh and if it had been just me and him it would almost certainly have got more heated but with the other two backing him up I did doubt whether I was truely out of order.

As far as I am concerned this is an offence committed on virtually every table of every tournament (pre flop all in AA v 66 and someone says 'ooo I folded a 6) and although I can actually see their point the fuss made of it was massively out of context and felt more like a personal attack on me.

Now maybe I should ask why people want to make personal attacks on me.  Could be I am obnoxious or irritating or could be my success in that casino and at least one of them I had KO'd on a final table?  Or could be both, who knows?

Seriously tilted me on the night which is not good and at that moment any chance I had of winning vanished!
By:
Givethedogabone
When: 23 May 12 23:30
Take it on the chin, we still love you...
I still think they were the tw@ts
I have had heated debates in casinos and even had a player not in the hand throw dealer puck at my chips and knocked them all over the place because he couldn't read my play after two years.
We would always play cash games after a day at sporting events ie test matches, golf days etc, drinking all day and were basically pissed as farts, he thought we were easy targets and fishes until he lost fortunes chasing his losses. Every time we turned up to play he would join in and then start moaning about the way we played, we did nothing wrong and I just wound him up every time and the more I wound him up the worse he played....
People talk through the pockets/bad beats....
Keep smiling Thrappers
When they throw dealer puck at your chips or try and wrestle you to the ground.............. then you are in my league lol...
See yo in Cork
By:
NickFiickTheOriginal
When: 23 May 12 23:51
Thanks for putting it in context. You cannot walk away from a tourney.
Obv got to them. They got to you. Looks like you came off worst with tilt (as well as doubting that you had done the right thing).

They probably targeted your chip stack after that.

You seem genuine enough and I have only met you once (Betfair-Live London 2011).
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