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I recently read a staking thread on here by Wonky, And it's made me wonder whether I should be looking for a staker too
At first I thought to myself, Well WHY play to win someone else money
I googled poker staking and found sites where you have to be a member of certain sites to be staked (Sites I am NOT with)
But IF its within the rules, I WOULD CONSIDER playing high STAKES games IF someone wanted to fund my account for a 50 percent split of any winnings on "888poker" where my alias SLEEPTALKER stats speak for themself
(I DONT want to sign up to anywhere) But would like to know more about it If anybody has information
Are we allowed to let others fund our accounts ?
What If the staker was also in the same game etc etc ????
On MTT's I have took SLEEPTALKER from the free invitation $8 to over $7K in winnings so far within months
At first I thought to myself, Well WHY play to win someone else money
I googled poker staking and found sites where you have to be a member of certain sites to be staked (Sites I am NOT with)
But IF its within the rules, I WOULD CONSIDER playing high STAKES games IF someone wanted to fund my account for a 50 percent split of any winnings on "888poker" where my alias SLEEPTALKER stats speak for themself
(I DONT want to sign up to anywhere) But would like to know more about it If anybody has information
Are we allowed to let others fund our accounts ?
What If the staker was also in the same game etc etc ????
On MTT's I have took SLEEPTALKER from the free invitation $8 to over $7K in winnings so far within months
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I don't understand why you would need staking if you're that good??
Why don't you use a portion of your bankroll to take shots at a higher level?? Couldn't imagine why a good player would give away winnings? |
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You should start a thread on twoplustwo SLEEPY, I'm sure someone will back you there.
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Typical forum liar. $8-$7000, yeah, alright then.
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Totally believe him, his graph speaks for itself, if wants a serious response he should go on 2p2.
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Sleepwalker
I don't see why you would be against someone asking you to sign up anywhere to do so. Its extra value for a potential backer. How much staking would you want and what volume are you expecting to play? |
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Apocolypse,
I understand why you ask that, But it only takes a few games without a win / Place at $200+ buy ins to damage a roll I have worked hard for. I am happy (ish) to keep playing in the smaller tournaments because they can pay out a few hundred dollars at cheap buy in costs. When multi tabling I have been known to earn approx $1,000+ in 1 night But If theres someone out there who can afford the $200+ buy ins then I am prepared to aim for the bigger money and split half which could be approx 15K "IF" I was to win 1st in a big game Players ASSUME other players have much more money than they actually have, And I can NOT afford to be buying into $200+ buy ins regulary myself. But I can offer to play IF funded Its like asking a boxer to move up in weight, But why move up If you are comfortable at the weight and can use your skills to the best of your advantage I believe I have the perfect weight, Reach, And height to remain undisputed at the low / Middle stakes. (LOL) But would consider trying to earn myself and someone else what "COULD" be a nice profit - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Cheers for that Ovalman, I may have a look on there sometime in the future, If I sign up - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - LOL pipunch, It would only make me look the fool If I was lying about it - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - (Mr 72) The klup, I'm not sure but I think it may have took me months signing up to this forum alone, As I am quite wary when it comes to companys giving our information to 3rd partys etc etc If someone was to fund my account, Then I do NOT need to give bank details to people I dont know. Where as If I win / Place I simply transfer half as soon as I have been credited the winnings I'm not sure how much, Or even If I would like to be staked. And I should be blaming Wonky for starting that other staking thread I WILL be playing throughout the week regardless in as many low / Middle stakes tournys / Rebuys as I need too. But I do NOT think I would turn my nose up IF funded to play higher |
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"Peasant" stakes MTT's on 888 are about the softest games in the world of poker. There's a massive leap from playing $5 MTT's on 888 to playing 200$ buyins, especially on a proper site. It would be like a Sunday league pub footballer trying to play for Barcelona, which is pretty evident when looking at your stats.
You have a negative ROI at games of 20$ and above, and yet want to suddenly play $200 buyins ??? Sorry but that goes against every single rule of good bankroll management. Fair play to you for finally crushing the $5 games, but shouldnt you try and move up the levels one at a time ? Comparing yourself to wonky is like me comparing myself on the football pitch to Lionel Messi. Oh, and if like me pipunch is looking at Sharkscope, then it says you have made 5.5k profit from 1650 MTTS on 888. The stuff about you "earning" 1k a night by the way is cringeworthy. You donked a MTT. Everyone does it eventually. |
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chipfire227,
If you read the thread properly you'll find I did NOT once compare myself with Wonky or anybody else And If you also read it properly you will see that I said "I have been known to win $1K+ in one night" NOT !!! That I earn $1K a night But If you really want to know the truth, I have actually won more than $2K in one game alone (Never mind one night) If I said I'm moving DOWN in stakes to 11 cent games, You would have had TRIED having a sly dig. And IF I TRY to improve or offer my time / Play by offering others the opportunity to stake a good player then I still get slagged off I am not using this thread to argue with you over something that I didn't ask you about |
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You posted it on an open forum of which I am a member. Your initial post is worded in such a way that you appear to be asking for advice and/or staking. If it was simply to boast about running good then I apologise for offering advice.
Your actual words were "I have been known to earn approx $1,000+ in 1 night"so I suggest you are the one that should be reading it properly.  My own record in low stakes MTT's, which are usually quick blinds and low stacks on 888, is played 92 with a profit of $543. They are fairly straightforward push/fold games. You cannot possibly compare them with $200 MTT's, where you will almost certainly be playing with deep blinds and slow clocks and invariably have to make decisions on every street. You will also be playing against the type of opponents you almost never play against in $2 turbo rebuys. Thats why almost every piece of advice written by top players suggests you should move up the levels gradually ensuring your bankroll can cope with a losing run, rather than making ridiculous jumps. By all means sat into some bigger games, or have a shot at the big games once or twice, but asking to be staked to play games at $200 level when you have never shown an ability to win beyond the $5 games in my opinion is madness. Finally you claim to have won " over 7k " on 888. Another poster accused you of lying. I can only see winnings of $5576. if you are "offering others the opportunity to stake a good player" then its only natural to query your claims. I should also point out that those winnings of $5576 are from Pacific/Sharkscope and I noticed you play some rebuy/add on tournies on there. What I've noticed is that when calculating profit they dont include the cost of any rebuys or add ons you have purchased, which gives a sometimes grossly inflated overall profit figure. I'm not trying to have a sly dig, simply stating the obvious. If you are crushing the games up to $5 then you may well find a staker willing to back you to play at a slightly higher level such as $10 or $20, or even the odd 30$-50$ games if they think there is value in them. |
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i would aggree with all that chip has said above
i dont believe he was having a dig but some words of advice sleep ur opening post does seem like a query to me. and i woild suggest u go too 2+2 forum if u want staking but ull have too show ur stats too prospective stakers and i defo dont see them investing into $200 buy ins with no proven track record in these best would be as chip said move up some levels |
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AFTER posting SO MANY threads on this site and TELLING everyone HOW good i am i have DECIDED that i will ask FOR staking as in TRUTH i AM not GOOD but i am the GREATEST at telling EVERYONE that i can TYPE randomly in CAPITAL letters
and EVEN after obviously getting on EVERYONE'S TITS i stil come BACK and tell everyone how GREAT i am but i want STAKING into games i HAVE NO EXPERIENCE of playing to a CONSISTANTLY high LEVEL and NOW i will BLAME winky for THIS thread |
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$5-$10 dollar games are very soft on 888. They probably are soft on most sites. Thats my buyin range. The higher stakes you go the higher the standard. I turned my free $8 dollars into 300 dollars pretty easily at these levels on 888 poker. But i think asking to be staked at $200 dollar levels is not going to happen. Thats a hugh jump. I think you should just move up gradually. Even from 10-50 dollar game's id say the standard gets alot tougher. In the games you play at i find you get chips very easily once you are anyway half decent.
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This is definitely a "look at how great my stats are thread", I suggest you go on 2P2 and tell everyone how good you are, I'm sure some of the big money players will bow down to your prowess.
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I am amazed you haven't had more abuse tbh.
You cannot possibly expect people to stake you to $200 games when you have no experience in the and a track record of winning with OKish figures at stakes of less than 5% of the buy in level you are asking to be staked for. Totally deluded madness! Which in all fairness is pretty much you MO after reading for years how you are 'THE GREATEST' because you used to win a volume based leaderboard playing $2 super turbo's at a losing ROI! Your posts do have some comedy value as in laughing at you rather than with you but anyone who would stake you for what you are asking would not be laughing I feel! |
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Wonky gets staked because
1. We know he is a great player 2. We know him and like him 3. We trust him The above rules probably would apply to anyone who wants to get staked. Simples |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fob0CP63ufw&feature=related
After seeing this ^^ i will stake you at any stakes you wanna play.  |
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^^^^
Bloody Hell.  |
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Lets get something straight here, I dont give a monkeys what ANY of you think
I KNOW how good I am, And thought I'd ask to see If I could find out more about the staking after it was brought to my attention on the open forum "THATS ALL" Now stop panicking about what I might be winning, And who I am as good as or better than because you are the one comparing me to other people I know a lot of you are bum chums, And expect nothing more from a load of sad old ****s ANY NORMAL HUMAN BEING CAN read what I typed above, And the childish comments that followed First I'm called a lier for saying I took my invitation $8 to over $7K Then chipfire comes on with his pheasant / Softest games comments and comparing sunday league players. Pointing out I supposedly have a negative ROI. The MTT's I've won I supposedly donked, And my 1K a night is cringeworthy We also have whatdoyouthinkofthoseapples TRYING to put me down by putting ALL negative words about me in CAPS Then Ovalman comes back with a change of attitude Then Helmuthian Folds comments on me being totally deluded (When he doesn't even know me) And after I had NOT said a word to him And then keith A arrives also stating how great this wonky player is, When I've not said a word about wonky Then johnnielove adding the video (Johnnie DONT expect me to ever talk to you again) As I log out laughing at all of your PATHETIC comments You all seem like R SOULS to me |
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fck off then
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I think you're a donk BTW (and why I still call you 5LEEPDONKER) but you've obviously changed your game so congrats on your success.
I just wish you would let the 2P2 forum know how great you are as I think you'll get a great reception over there. |
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If it's any consolation, I wont sleep at nights having seen that video. Seriously scary sh1t.
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Fair play to you Johnny... you keep notes on players
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There's two videos on there, I only watched about 30 seconds of the one with the link posted above and it frightened the Bejasus out of me.
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I must say I find it HILARIOUS
Because I know johnnielove will be sat there quietly laughing his head off over it |
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5leep. I find it worrying that you posted on here as you have and then say you DON'T give a monkeys what we think.
Seriously why would anyone consider staking you with that type of language as a response? I suggest you stick at low levels as you have and when you have a bigger bankroll try some higher stakes. But not the sort of jump you are suggesting. Even try and satellite into these tourneys and take a shot. Because they are tough. As for staking try badbeat.com. They are offering you to try and show how good you are at low stakes and then if you are they will up the funds they stake you. But even they do not suggest the type of jump in stakes that you mentioned here. |
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Video made me LOL. Do you really want staking or is this a wind-up because if it isnt, you are what HF says, DELUDED!
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I Must say that is very informative and awesome great work.
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lol nice video
Is that your audition video for the next x-factor? |
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Got to go for Britains Got Talent, if he dont win it for the singing, will deffo win it for the dancing. Awesome moves !
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I'm overated
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I echo Keith A's sentiments.
Wonky - tried and tested - sells at 1:1 and is modest in his own assessment. Sleepwalker wants to sell at 2:1 and doesnt want his backer to profit from the sign up factor either. [ ] sleepwalker is on a winner |
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I'm under rated, I also was ""NOT"" looking for a backer
Although I wasn't looking for a backer, I was messaged by a betfair player saying I might be interested but need to hear what your plan is I DONT have a plan, As staking was only brought to my attention after reading someone elses thread on the forum I currently usually play $3 rebuys + $5 rebuys and literally have hundreds of results / Places I have EXPERIENCE, Experience of playing 7 days a week, And have done many sessions lasting over 48 hours + I COULD try to find a backer for games a little higher, But I can already afford to play a little higher out of choice with my own roll (And sometimes do) There are many people that see $200 as a bit of loose change, Everybodys different. And IF a backer did want to fund my account I believe the backer has a very good chance of making a profit, Which could mean splitting approx $30K He could even come back on here and try to listen for the reception which you might hear from the people on this 2p2 forum what your on about 5LEEPWALKER (SLEEPTALKER) could have been on a winner YES, And also so could the backer |
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I don't know about anyone else, but I only ever back at 1 to 1.
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God, he's still fking here, and now he's begging for "loose change".
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Begging ffs just vile and you a BF rep tut tut.
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I'm a Betfair Rep ???? Must have missed that happening.
Did it take place around the same time I started shrinking ? |
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Oh so sorry the community rep( it should have read ) mind you don't change the fact that your post is vile !!
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Whatever.
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I am also a fair person, And (IF) I did choose to play for a percentage whilst being backed, I would also be prepared to pay them the buy in fee If I was to lose connection or something due to any problems that MAY occur (Which means I could lose out without playing)
I would also (Out of appreciation)probably play approx $1K of my winnings in other tournaments and be willing to split 50 percent from whatever I got from that too Which COULD be thousands more - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Put me at 10 million / 1 If I am that 1 (It still wouldn't make a difference what anybody else thinks) I am THE GREATEST (And that would OBVIOUSLY be a GREAT deal) |
