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cherrypicker
01 Mar 12 15:46
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I had AA 8 times all in pre-flop ( in around 6 hours play all SNG'S and won one hand.

Also on the same day I had AK 4 times lost every time, +
KK won 1 out of 5 pre-flop.

Please explain ?????Crazy
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Report chipfire227 March 1, 2012 9:34 PM GMT
Two odds on shots beaten at Henlow dogs tonight as well. How the hell can this happen ? Laugh
Report Dooberama March 1, 2012 11:08 PM GMT
Loving the irony.
Report Bishy March 2, 2012 11:21 AM GMT
standard
Report Bishy March 2, 2012 12:39 PM GMT
b i n g o
Report Jonny25 March 23, 2012 2:44 PM GMT
think your bull**** to be honest or exagerating a little bit   

aa 8 times
kk 5 times
ak only 4 times

but even if your not ( i highly doubt it )

all players have bad days with theese hands their not unbeatable also the amount of players your all-in with decreases your odds of winning per person
aa all-in vs 3 or 4 players is rubbish
Report cheezer March 23, 2012 3:34 PM GMT
"Two odds on shots beaten at Henlow dogs tonight as well. How the hell can this happen?"

So poker is gambling then chip?
Report garybet. March 23, 2012 5:34 PM GMT
Table (Shallow) Mountjoy (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Seat 1: Whyme22 ( $38.64 USD )
Seat 3: AlexDunov ( $14.70 USD )
Seat 5: guocccc ( $14.95 USD )
Seat 6: NZTjunkie ( $43.24 USD )
Seat 8: Stilted ( $9.25 USD )
Seat 10: markavfc14 ( $5.44 USD )
markavfc14 posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
Whyme22 posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Whyme22 [  As Ad ]
AlexDunov folds
guocccc folds
NZTjunkie folds
Stilted folds
markavfc14 folds
Whyme22 wins $0.75 USD from main pot


***** Hand History for Game 3184156555 ***** (IPoker)
$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, February 29, 05:24:42 ET 2012
Table (Shallow) Hulsen (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: Whyme22 ( $29.68 USD )
Seat 3: JONHRANDOM ( $9.25 USD )
Seat 6: dafaQ7 ( $75.01 USD )
Seat 8: huolieniao ( $18.22 USD )
Seat 10: CAC727 ( $29.68 USD )
dafaQ7 posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
huolieniao posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Whyme22 [  Ad Ah ]
CAC727 folds
Whyme22 raises [$1.50 USD]
JONHRANDOM folds
dafaQ7 folds
huolieniao folds
Whyme22 wins $2.25 USD from main pot


***** Hand History for Game 3184138692 ***** (IPoker)
$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, February 29, 05:12:45 ET 2012
Table (Shallow) Bunne (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: Pataflafla ( $31.40 USD )
Seat 3: Faust1808 ( $25.00 USD )
Seat 5: nasa123 ( $29.18 USD )
Seat 6: steptoe68 ( $15.43 USD )
Seat 8: picasmil12 ( $16.75 USD )
Seat 10: Whyme22 ( $39.72 USD )
nasa123 posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
steptoe68 posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Whyme22 [  Ad As ]
picasmil12 folds
Whyme22 raises [$1.50 USD]
Pataflafla folds
Faust1808 folds
nasa123 folds
steptoe68 folds
Whyme22 wins $2.25 USD from main pot


***** Hand History for Game 3183977777 ***** (IPoker)
$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, February 29, 03:23:22 ET 2012
Table Bread (No DP 50 bb min) (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: eleanorGT67 ( $57.91 USD )
Seat 3: Whyme22 ( $77.47 USD )
Seat 5: DurrrIzNutz ( $67.48 USD )
Seat 6: creett ( $62.92 USD )
Seat 8: MrKalado ( $50.00 USD )
Seat 10: osemouzel ( $50.02 USD )
DurrrIzNutz posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
creett posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Whyme22 [  Ad As ]
osemouzel folds
eleanorGT67 folds
Whyme22 raises [$1.50 USD]
DurrrIzNutz folds
creett folds
Whyme22 wins $2.25 USD from main pot


***** Hand History for Game 3183939697 ***** (IPoker)
$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, February 29, 02:55:07 ET 2012
Table Bread (No DP 50 bb min) (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Seat 1: eleanorGT67 ( $51.99 USD )
Seat 3: Whyme22 ( $37.09 USD )
Seat 5: DurrrIzNutz ( $70.34 USD )
Seat 6: creett ( $66.42 USD )
Seat 8: bullsta2 ( $41.14 USD )
Seat 10: osemouzel ( $50.00 USD )
bullsta2 posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
osemouzel posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Whyme22 [  Ac Ad ]
eleanorGT67 folds
Whyme22 raises [$1.50 USD]
DurrrIzNutz folds
creett folds
bullsta2 raises [$3.25 USD]
osemouzel folds
Whyme22 raises [$9.00 USD]
bullsta2 raises [$37.64 USD]
Whyme22 calls [$26.59 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qc, Ks, 3h ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3s ]
** Dealing River ** [ 5s ]
Whyme22 wins $71.68 USD from main pot
bullsta2 wins $4.05 USD from main pot
bullsta2 shows [4c, 4h ]


***** Hand History for Game 3183902653 ***** (IPoker)
$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, February 29, 02:25:34 ET 2012
Table Bread (No DP 50 bb min) (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: pedromne ( $55.97 USD )
Seat 3: Whyme22 ( $67.21 USD )
Seat 5: DurrrIzNutz ( $69.54 USD )
Seat 6: lioneto2 ( $64.13 USD )
Seat 8: Aceropuro2 ( $25.00 USD )
Seat 10: osemouzel ( $54.90 USD )
DurrrIzNutz posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
lioneto2 posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Whyme22 [  Ah As ]
osemouzel raises [$1.50 USD]
Whyme22 raises [$5.00 USD]
DurrrIzNutz folds
lioneto2 folds
osemouzel folds
Whyme22 wins $7.25 USD from main pot


***** Hand History for Game 3183895552 ***** (IPoker)
$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, February 29, 02:19:47 ET 2012
Table (Shallow) Nathaniel (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Seat 1: Aceropuro2 ( $26.88 USD )
Seat 3: Pulla1 ( $48.39 USD )
Seat 5: Whyme22 ( $19.25 USD )
Seat 6: SonOfFish ( $33.42 USD )
Seat 8: Appache2 ( $10.00 USD )
Seat 10: HolyyyMolyyy ( $26.32 USD )
SonOfFish posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
Appache2 posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Whyme22 [  Ac Ad ]
HolyyyMolyyy folds
Aceropuro2 folds
Pulla1 folds
Whyme22 raises [$1.50 USD]
SonOfFish folds
Appache2 folds
Whyme22 wins $2.25 USD from main pot


***** Hand History for Game 3183890948 ***** (IPoker)
$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, February 29, 02:16:04 ET 2012
Table (Shallow) Messala (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Seat 1: palmones23 ( $25.00 USD )
Seat 3: Appache2 ( $10.50 USD )
Seat 5: zmx1962 ( $20.50 USD )
Seat 6: bigfishfish ( $27.75 USD )
Seat 8: opjknm ( $17.40 USD )
Seat 10: Whyme22 ( $35.30 USD )
Whyme22 posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
Appache2 posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Whyme22 [  Ad Ah ]
zmx1962 folds
bigfishfish raises [$1.50 USD]
opjknm folds
Whyme22 raises [$4.75 USD]
Appache2 folds
bigfishfish folds
Whyme22 wins $7.00 USD from main pot

Table (Shallow) Messala (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: Daggerlal1985 ( $21.36 USD )
Seat 3: YAKUT66 ( $11.00 USD )
Seat 5: zmx1962 ( $21.58 USD )
Seat 6: NZTjunkie ( $25.00 USD )
Seat 8: huangdaqq ( $10.37 USD )
Seat 10: Whyme22 ( $27.11 USD )
YAKUT66 posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
zmx1962 posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Whyme22 [  Ks As ]
NZTjunkie folds
huangdaqq raises [$1.00 USD]
Whyme22 calls [$1.00 USD]
Daggerlal1985 folds
YAKUT66 raises [$10.75 USD]
zmx1962 folds
huangdaqq folds
Whyme22 calls [$10.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8c, 3c, 2c ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Tc ]
** Dealing River ** [ Kh ]
Whyme22 wins $22.33 USD from main pot
YAKUT66 shows [Js, Ad ]


***** Hand History for Game 3183942700 ***** (IPoker)
$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, February 29, 02:57:26 ET 2012
Table (Shallow) Nathaniel (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: 2009gt4 ( $25.35 USD )
Seat 3: Pulla1 ( $51.14 USD )
Seat 5: Whyme22 ( $25.00 USD )
Seat 6: drehdenswagauf ( $35.77 USD )
Seat 8: LuckyLans ( $28.00 USD )
Seat 10: HolyyyMolyyy ( $16.00 USD )
Whyme22 posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
drehdenswagauf posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Whyme22 [  Kh Ah ]
LuckyLans raises [$1.00 USD]
HolyyyMolyyy folds
2009gt4 calls [$1.00 USD]
Pulla1 folds
Whyme22 raises [$4.75 USD]
drehdenswagauf folds
LuckyLans folds
2009gt4 folds
Whyme22 wins $7.50 USD from main pot

Table (Shallow) Mountjoy (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Seat 1: Whyme22 ( $53.29 USD )
Seat 3: TYGTYG ( $44.10 USD )
Seat 5: RicardoAlpert ( $24.18 USD )
Seat 6: picasmil12 ( $17.50 USD )
Seat 8: ROLANDSWE ( $29.33 USD )
Seat 10: broston ( $9.75 USD )
Whyme22 posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
TYGTYG posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Whyme22 [  Kd Ad ]
RicardoAlpert folds
ROLANDSWE folds
broston raises [$1.25 USD]
Whyme22 raises [$5.25 USD]
TYGTYG folds
broston folds
Whyme22 wins $7.25 USD from main pot


***** Hand History for Game 3183925308 ***** (IPoker)
$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, February 29, 02:43:49 ET 2012
Table (Shallow) Nestor (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Seat 1: Whyme22 ( $39.72 USD )
Seat 3: juanjocolorado ( $22.13 USD )
Seat 5: LuckyLans ( $18.37 USD )
Seat 6: AniiutkA ( $11.87 USD )
Seat 8: ghjghjghjg ( $15.57 USD )
Seat 10: sunrise21 ( $15.66 USD )
AniiutkA posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
ghjghjghjg posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Whyme22 [  Kh Ah ]
sunrise21 folds
Whyme22 raises [$1.50 USD]
juanjocolorado folds
LuckyLans folds
AniiutkA folds
ghjghjghjg folds
Whyme22 wins $2.25 USD from main pot

Table (Shallow) Hulsen (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: Whyme22 ( $30.26 USD )
Seat 3: JONHRANDOM ( $12.75 USD )
Seat 6: dafaQ7 ( $80.19 USD )
Seat 8: huolieniao ( $12.72 USD )
Seat 10: Stilted ( $9.25 USD )
dafaQ7 posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
huolieniao posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Whyme22 [  Kc Kh ]
Stilted folds
Whyme22 raises [$1.50 USD]
dafaQ7 raises [$4.25 USD]
huolieniao folds
Whyme22 calls [$3.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7s, 7c, 7h ]
dafaQ7 bets [$6.50 USD]
Whyme22 calls [$6.50 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8h ]
dafaQ7 checks
Whyme22 bets [$8.50 USD]
dafaQ7 folds
Whyme22 wins $29.88 USD from main pot


***** Hand History for Game 3184149082 ***** (IPoker)
$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, February 29, 05:19:47 ET 2012
Table (Shallow) Hulsen (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Seat 1: Whyme22 ( $29.18 USD )
Seat 3: picasmil12 ( $17.50 USD )
Seat 5: jofky567 ( $38.35 USD )
Seat 6: dafaQ7 ( $46.06 USD )
Seat 8: huolieniao ( $22.47 USD )
Seat 10: CAC727 ( $31.93 USD )
CAC727 posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
Whyme22 posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Whyme22 [  Kh Ks ]
jofky567 folds
dafaQ7 folds
huolieniao folds
CAC727 raises [$1.25 USD]
Whyme22 raises [$4.50 USD]
CAC727 folds
Whyme22 wins $6.50 USD from main pot

Table (Shallow) Bunne (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Seat 1: camaman ( $16.10 USD )
Seat 3: superpokerk ( $17.46 USD )
Seat 5: Daggerlal1985 ( $20.00 USD )
Seat 6: c0c1n3r0 ( $17.82 USD )
Seat 8: huangdaqq ( $25.46 USD )
Seat 10: Whyme22 ( $46.21 USD )
huangdaqq posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
Whyme22 posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Whyme22 [  Ks Kd ]
camaman folds
superpokerk raises [$1.00 USD]
Daggerlal1985 folds
c0c1n3r0 folds
huangdaqq folds
Whyme22 raises [$4.00 USD]
superpokerk folds
Whyme22 wins $5.75 USD from main pot

Table (Shallow) Bunne (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Seat 1: tovSaahov ( $25.00 USD )
Seat 3: drehdenswagauf ( $29.53 USD )
Seat 5: ANevskiy ( $0.00 USD )
Seat 6: LuckyLans ( $10.00 USD )
Seat 8: Satupon ( $17.22 USD )
Seat 10: Whyme22 ( $47.21 USD )
Satupon posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
Whyme22 posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Whyme22 [  Kh Kc ]
drehdenswagauf folds
LuckyLans folds
Satupon raises [$1.25 USD]
Whyme22 raises [$4.50 USD]
Satupon calls [$3.50 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qh, 9h, 9c ]
Satupon checks
Whyme22 bets [$8.50 USD]
Satupon raises [$12.22 USD]
Whyme22 calls [$3.72 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ks ]
** Dealing River ** [ Ac ]
Whyme22 wins $32.72 USD from main pot
Satupon shows [9d, Ad ]


***** Hand History for Game 3183925360 ***** (IPoker)
$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, February 29, 02:43:52 ET 2012
Table (Shallow) Mountjoy (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Seat 1: Whyme22 ( $26.00 USD )
Seat 5: drehdenswagauf ( $25.50 USD )
Seat 6: PAnAsH1 ( $21.00 USD )
Seat 8: AniiutkA ( $18.88 USD )
Seat 10: LuckyLans ( $11.00 USD )
LuckyLans posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
Whyme22 posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Whyme22 [  Kh Kc ]
drehdenswagauf folds
PAnAsH1 folds
AniiutkA raises [$1.00 USD]
LuckyLans folds
Whyme22 raises [$4.00 USD]
AniiutkA folds
Whyme22 wins $5.75 USD from main pot


I had AA 8 times, AK 4 times and KK 5 times all in the same day.
Can someone explain how i won every single hand???
Report chipfire227 March 23, 2012 6:23 PM GMT
That would depend Mr Cheezer on how you defined gambling.

Am I gambling for instance when I cross a busy road to get to the chip shop ? Technically, yes.

As with everything it boils down you your expected value. I for instance like fish and chips a lot, and am pretty skilled at crossing roads, even the busy ones. So my EV in going to the chip shop is EV+. If I use the pedestrian crossing then its even more EV+. I will amost always get fish and chips, and probably never get run over.

With some games, such as roulette for intsance, there is nothing you can do to alter your EV. Its EV- to participate and always will be and over a very long term will cost you money.

With poker you can do several things to influence your EV. If I always play against weaker players and exercise sound bankroll management for instance, then it will be EV+ for me to play these games long term and I will be profitable.

If I go out and get blind drunk, play against very good sober players, and just randomly press all in whenever I feel like it then of course I will have a negative expectation.
Report Helmuthian Folds March 23, 2012 6:29 PM GMT
The easier reply and avoiding any traffic conundrums is.....

Poker in any one said hand is gambling whether you have the odds on your side or not.

Poker over a long series of hands is more like an investment if you put the odds on your side consistently.

HTH.
Report somebody March 23, 2012 7:51 PM GMT
***** History for hand T5-225190275-35 (TOURNAMENT: "Kunku Wap's Ambassador Challenge", R-5747-4, buy-in: $5.50) *****
Start hand: Wed Mar 21 22:41:29 EET 2012
Table: Table #1 [225190275] (NO_LIMIT TEXAS_HOLDEM 100/200, Chips)
User: blue_1914
Button: seat 9
Players in round: 9
Seat 1: jimmy_s22 (22020)
Seat 2: cgull69 (11445)
Seat 4: LeoManiak (10655)
Seat 5: W4HAND (8110)
Seat 6: weed56 (2560)
Seat 7: marbrysz (10035)
Seat 8: Mr Drinkie (10180)
Seat 9: blue_1914 (13750)
Seat 10: surrender (11115)
surrender posts small blind (100)
jimmy_s22 posts big blind (200)
---
Dealing pocket cards
Dealing to blue_1914: [As, Ah]
cgull69 folds
LeoManiak calls 200
W4HAND folds
weed56 folds
marbrysz folds
Mr Drinkie raises 900 to 900
blue_1914 raises 2150 to 2150
surrender folds
jimmy_s22 folds
LeoManiak raises 10455 to 10655 [all in]
Mr Drinkie calls 9280 [all in]
blue_1914 calls 8505
--- Dealing flop [Jd, Qd, 7h]
--- Dealing turn [Ad]
--- Dealing river [3d]
---
Summary:
Main pot: 30840 won by Mr Drinkie (30840)
Side pot 1: 950 won by blue_1914 (950)
Rake taken: $0
Seat 1: jimmy_s22 (21820), net: -200
Seat 2: cgull69 (11445)
Seat 4: LeoManiak (0), net: -10655, [Qs, Qc] (THREE_OF_A_KIND QUEEN)
Seat 5: W4HAND (8110)
Seat 6: weed56 (2560)
Seat 7: marbrysz (10035)
Seat 8: Mr Drinkie (30840), net: +20660, [Kh, Kd] (FLUSH ACE)
Seat 9: blue_1914 (4045), net: -9705, [As, Ah] (THREE_OF_A_KIND ACE)
Seat 10: surrender (11015), net: -100
***** End of hand T5-225190275-35 *****
Report chipfire227 March 23, 2012 7:54 PM GMT
I like traffic analogies. Especially those involving fish and chips.
Report sea27 March 24, 2012 12:28 PM GMT
all standard. dont play at ongame. choose PP or pokerstars.
Report cherrypicker March 26, 2012 1:30 PM BST
NOT BULLSH**T THE TRUTH I DO NOT LIE THIS HAPPENED FOR REAL!!
Report chipfire227 March 26, 2012 4:08 PM BST
It happens, you just have to deal with it. Last night I got all my chips in when playing a $120 buy in MTT, with KK vs JJ and lost. I'm happy to get all my chips in pre flop to a pot containing 44 big blinds. That's as much as you can do, the rest is down to lady luck.

The funny thing was about 20 minutes later the guy that sucked out on me lost to a bad beat himself with KK. He went ballistic in chat calling the other player all the names under the sun, and alleging the game was r1gg3d and that he'd been cheated. And thats the thing,some people remember the bad beats but not the suck outs.

Seat 2: chipfire227 (3,755 in chips)
Seat 3: WVWVWVWVWVW (8,350 in chips)
Seat 4: KeithAisGay (4,550 in chips)
Seat 5: AAA-od (6,740 in chips)
Seat 6: flashbang (3,095 in chips)
Seat 7: hossabaer1 (11,305 in chips)
Seat 8: Kingsajz. (3,540 in chips)
Seat 9: VainoTiik (11,020 in chips)
Seat 10: Dashukkkkkk (4,920 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
AAA-od posts small blind (80), flashbang posts big blind (160),

PRE-FLOP
hossabaer1 folds, Kingsajz. folds, VainoTiik folds, Dashukkkkkk folds, chipfire227 raises to 400, WVWVWVWVWVW folds, KeithAisGay calls 400, AAA-od calls 400, flashbang raises to 3,095 and is all-in, chipfire227 raises to 3,755 and is all-in, KeithAisGay folds, AAA-od folds.

FLOP [board cards: JC,3H,9H ]


TURN [board cards: JC,3H,9H,5H ]


RIVER [board cards: JC,3H,9H,5H,TS ]


SHOWDOWN
chipfire227 shows [ KH,KD ]
flashbang shows [ JD,JH ]
flashbang wins 6,990
Report BananaBoat March 28, 2012 9:38 AM BST
I've replied in another post about this.

AA V KK  -  Say you had it ten times on trot for example. The mathematical probabilty of AA winning on the tenth time is 12.3%

I rest my case
Report zaina March 29, 2012 10:33 AM BST
AAVKK

its winning probability is 12.3%??
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