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I'm quitting online poker after seeing this.
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your my hero.
23 hands deep is all i got. saw the flopped full house 4 times in those 23 hands. |
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heres one of i saw, i had folded ofcourse.
Dealing pocket cards Dealing to manxy_x: [As, 7c] manxy_x folds hopeavalo folds praiadefaro folds anikanos calls 80 siesopillas calls 40 Adrian_01 checks --- Dealing flop [7d, Ah, Ad] siesopillas checks Adrian_01 checks anikanos bets 160 siesopillas folds Adrian_01 calls 160 --- Dealing turn [Kh] Adrian_01 checks anikanos checks --- Dealing river [6c] Adrian_01 checks anikanos checks |
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very next hand.
Dealing pocket cards Dealing to manxy_x: [6c, Qc] hopeavalo folds manxy_x folds praiadefaro calls 80 anikanos calls 80 siesopillas folds Adrian_01 checks --- Dealing flop [6d, Qd, 6h] nuff said, if it walks like a duck, and squarks like a duck, etc etc, contrived garbbage. |
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hard luck manxy the game sucks at times.
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Why are you ever folding if the site is contrived to give you a full house every 6 hands? You must really suck if you are waiting for aces in the circumstances
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the 4 flopped fullhouses were in the last 8 hands mugsville.
they followed this flopped quads. Dealing pocket cards Dealing to manxy_x: [4h, Ts] wildsantiago folds manxy_x folds LUCASPORTOX folds corvo95 calls 20 anikanos raises 90 to 100 Adrian_01 calls 80 corvo95 calls 80 --- Dealing flop [Ad, 8h, 8c] anikanos checks Adrian_01 checks corvo95 checks --- Dealing turn [Jh] anikanos bets 40 Adrian_01 calls 40 corvo95 raises 80 to 80 anikanos calls 40 Adrian_01 raises 85 to 125 corvo95 calls 45 anikanos calls 45 --- Dealing river [As] anikanos checks Adrian_01 bets 1775 [all in] corvo95 folds anikanos folds --- Summary: Main pot: 675 won by Adrian_01 (675) Rake taken: $0 Seat 2: LUCASPORTOX (2000) Seat 3: corvo95 (1775), net: -225 Seat 4: anikanos (1775), net: -225 Seat 6: Adrian_01 (2450), net: +450, [8s, 8d] (FOUR_OF_A_KIND EIGHT) Seat 7: wildsantiago (2000) Seat 9: manxy_x (2000) ***** End of hand T5-208688445-1 ***** ***** History for hand T5-208688445-2 (TOURNAMENT: "$1,000 NL Holdem SH", R-457-939, buy-in: $2.25) ***** Start hand: Tue Jan 17 23:06:50 GMT 2012 Table: Table #52 [208688445] (NO_LIMIT TEXAS_HOLDEM 10/20, Chips) Utterly contrived garbbage. |
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Was it a misclick when you folded 2 suited cards ( Q6 ) pre flop ?
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i didnt play a hand first round of 20/10.
i planned to see some cheap flops after i doubled thru. until then tight, then i got my thru so tight ultra aggressive when flop hits. my double thru. Start hand: Tue Jan 17 23:22:54 GMT 2012 Table: Table #52 [208688445] (NO_LIMIT TEXAS_HOLDEM 15/30, Chips) User: manxy_x Button: seat 6 Players in round: 6 Seat 3: corvo95 (3715) Seat 4: anikanos (2065) Seat 6: Adrian_01 (3050) Seat 7: wildsantiago (1495) Seat 9: manxy_x (1735) Seat 10: hopeavalo (1890) wildsantiago posts small blind (15) manxy_x posts big blind (30) --- Dealing pocket cards Dealing to manxy_x: [9s, Ah] hopeavalo folds corvo95 raises 60 to 60 anikanos folds Adrian_01 folds wildsantiago calls 45 manxy_x calls 30 --- Dealing flop [6s, 9d, As] wildsantiago checks manxy_x checks corvo95 bets 180 wildsantiago folds manxy_x raises 360 to 360 corvo95 raises 360 to 540 manxy_x raises 1315 to 1675 [all in] corvo95 calls 1135 --- Dealing turn [3h] --- Dealing river [Ts] --- Summary: Main pot: 3530 won by manxy_x (3530) Rake taken: $0 Seat 3: corvo95 (1980), net: -1735, [8s, Ac] (PAIR ACE) Seat 4: anikanos (2065) Seat 6: Adrian_01 (3050) Seat 7: wildsantiago (1435), net: -60 Seat 9: manxy_x (3530), net: +1795, [9s, Ah] (TWO_PAIR ACE, NINE) Seat 10: hopeavalo (1890) ***** End of hand T5-208688445-21 ***** 2 hands later i take the rest of his stack. ***** History for hand T5-208688445-24 (TOURNAMENT: "$1,000 NL Holdem SH", R-457-939, buy-in: $2.25) ***** Start hand: Tue Jan 17 23:25:08 GMT 2012 Table: Table #52 [208688445] (NO_LIMIT TEXAS_HOLDEM 15/30, Chips) User: manxy_x Button: seat 10 Players in round: 6 Seat 3: corvo95 (1200) Seat 4: anikanos (2065) Seat 6: Adrian_01 (3050) Seat 7: wildsantiago (1435) Seat 9: manxy_x (3500) Seat 10: hopeavalo (2700) corvo95 posts small blind (15) anikanos posts big blind (30) --- Dealing pocket cards Dealing to manxy_x: [Ad, Tc] Adrian_01 folds wildsantiago calls 30 manxy_x calls 30 hopeavalo folds corvo95 raises 45 to 60 anikanos folds wildsantiago calls 30 manxy_x calls 30 --- Dealing flop [7d, 8c, Ts] corvo95 checks wildsantiago bets 100 manxy_x calls 100 corvo95 calls 100 --- Dealing turn [Ac] corvo95 checks wildsantiago checks manxy_x bets 510 corvo95 raises 1040 to 1040 [all in] wildsantiago folds manxy_x calls 530 --- Dealing river [2s] --- Summary: Main pot: 2590 won by manxy_x (2590) Rake taken: $0 Seat 3: corvo95 (0), net: -1200, [Ah, 3d] (PAIR ACE) Seat 4: anikanos (2035), net: -30 Seat 6: Adrian_01 (3050) Seat 7: wildsantiago (1275), net: -160 Seat 9: manxy_x (4890), net: +1390, [Ad, Tc] (TWO_PAIR ACE, TEN) Seat 10: hopeavalo (2700) ***** End of hand T5-208688445-24 ***** then i get a cheap look at 2 cards below my range. ***** History for hand T5-208688445-41 (TOURNAMENT: "$1,000 NL Holdem SH", R-457-939, buy-in: $2.25) ***** Start hand: Tue Jan 17 23:34:35 GMT 2012 Table: Table #52 [208688445] (NO_LIMIT TEXAS_HOLDEM 25/50, Chips) User: manxy_x Button: seat 9 Players in round: 6 Seat 3: praiadefaro (3585) Seat 4: anikanos (2785) Seat 5: siesopillas (3380) Seat 6: Adrian_01 (3975) Seat 9: manxy_x (4640) Seat 10: hopeavalo (1800) hopeavalo posts small blind (25) praiadefaro posts big blind (50) --- Dealing pocket cards Dealing to manxy_x: [Jc, As] anikanos calls 50 siesopillas folds Adrian_01 calls 50 manxy_x calls 50 hopeavalo folds praiadefaro checks --- Dealing flop [Kh, 8s, Qd] praiadefaro checks anikanos checks Adrian_01 checks manxy_x checks --- Dealing turn [Jh] praiadefaro checks anikanos bets 50 Adrian_01 folds manxy_x calls 50 praiadefaro calls 50 --- Dealing river [Ad] praiadefaro checks anikanos checks manxy_x bets 200 praiadefaro folds anikanos folds --- Summary: Main pot: 375 won by manxy_x (375) Rake taken: $0 Seat 3: praiadefaro (3485), net: -100 Seat 4: anikanos (2685), net: -100 Seat 5: siesopillas (3380) Seat 6: Adrian_01 (3925), net: -50 Seat 9: manxy_x (4915), net: +275 Seat 10: hopeavalo (1775), net: -25 next i get gutted by a mug call from pocket 4s. Start hand: Tue Jan 17 23:36:35 GMT 2012 Table: Table #52 [208688445] (NO_LIMIT TEXAS_HOLDEM 40/80, Chips) User: manxy_x Button: seat 4 Players in round: 6 Seat 3: praiadefaro (3445) Seat 4: anikanos (3045) Seat 5: siesopillas (3300) Seat 6: Adrian_01 (3565) Seat 9: manxy_x (4915) Seat 10: hopeavalo (1895) siesopillas posts small blind (40) Adrian_01 posts big blind (80) --- Dealing pocket cards Dealing to manxy_x: [Ah, Kd] manxy_x calls 80 hopeavalo raises 320 to 320 praiadefaro folds anikanos folds siesopillas folds Adrian_01 folds manxy_x raises 4835 to 4915 [all in] hopeavalo calls 1575 [all in] --- Dealing flop [Ts, 5c, Th] --- Dealing turn [6s] --- Dealing river [Js] --- Summary: Main pot: 3910 won by hopeavalo (3910) Rake taken: $0 Seat 3: praiadefaro (3445) Seat 4: anikanos (3045) Seat 5: siesopillas (3260), net: -40 Seat 6: Adrian_01 (3485), net: -80 Seat 9: manxy_x (3020), net: -1895, [Ah, Kd] (PAIR TEN) Seat 10: hopeavalo (3910), net: +2015, [4s, 4h] (TWO_PAIR TEN, FOUR) ***** End of hand T5-208688445-44 ***** ***** History for hand T5-208688445-45 (TOURNAMENT: "$1,000 NL Holdem SH", R-457-939, buy-in: $2.25) ***** then emptied out against the hand in the op. |
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It's not just the site thats garbbage (sic)though is it ?
You are playing $2 MTTS (very badly) against bad players, in what is essentially a shytefest,and a donk laden shytefest at that, then moaning when you lose with ak against 44, or with k 10 vs jj. If some of you learnt how to fold pre, you wouldn't see so many flops to whine about. My advice: go read a few books. HTH. |
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i was simply cheaply testing the site.
i did the same with several sit n gos. pm me f you want to scope my crypto days on here, i will give you m player name. i played mainly 100 dollar SnGs. 93 rating and 30 percent plus ROI. i played one table a time for fun, then every update just juiced the game more and more, so i kicked it into touch, now i play one home game a week [fri] and one 50 entry casino tourney a week [mon]. i couldnt care tuppence for your thoughts about juicing, i know it is totally contrived,and will not get another cent from me. faining weakness and trapping is an integral part of my play, just doesnt work online any more, you rarely have the true equity you believe you have. i started looking at online poker again after many years, because i read a carbon poker rep spouting off on 2plus2, so i downloaded it and tested it. over a series of random tables on random days over a month, i counted communty card aces i spreadheeted the results, i counted 130 community cards per table, starting from when i opened it. i did that 100 times, that was 100 rows of 130 cards, expressed as N for no ace or Y for an ace. out of that 100 rows of 130 cards, only 27 had 10 aces or less in them, 73 had 11 or more aces in them. thats an ace every 8.03 cards hit the board instead of the random 1 in 13. also a flushed flop happened once ever 8 flops on average instead of 1 in 20 as random flops would. your reassurance or scorn matters not one jot to me, theyve made a mockery out of the game, and more fool anyone who wants to graft multi table washers, out of the contrived garbbage now served up. |
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Off you trot then...close the door on your way out.
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indeed that is my planned modus opeandi.
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An educated conspiracy theorist...this I like.
Q. Define jucing Q. What are the main benefits of jucing? Thanks |
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Not a single day goes by where the online poker forums do not come under bombardment by some new conspiracy theory, or just a new version of an old conspiracy. In this article I will explain three of the most popular conspiracy theories and look at the veracity of each claim.
Online poker conspiracy #1: The online poker sites use “house” players or poker bots. Summary: The basic premise of the “house player/poker bot” accusation is that the poker sites employ either real players, or use poker bots, who have some type of built-in advantage over the other players: Knowledge of other players’ hole cards, knowledge of the upcoming cards, or something along those lines. These players/bots are then planted at tables to fleece the legitimate players. Fact or Fiction: This is one of the most common allegations, and the reason so many players can make this assertion is because it is impossible to prove or disprove without the online poker sites agreeing to some form of full audit of their hand histories. So, the jury is completely out on this one; most Poker Pros and people in the industry discount this possibility, but there is no proof either way. Verdict: Unknown Online poker conspiracy #2: The online poker sites “juice” the flops to create more action. Summary: People alleging “juiced” flops believe the sites tinker with the flop texture to insure that multiple players make strong hands. The theory is that if there is a lot of action the rake will be higher, which leads to more income for the online poker site. Fact or Fiction: This is one of the easier conspiracies to debunk, since the flop cards are completely known -unlike hole cards which often remain hidden. Therefore, many players have been able to look at large samples of flops and have found that each card is just as likely to appear as any other, as well as the lack of “action flops”. Verdict: Total Fiction Online poker conspiracy #3: The online poker sites skew the odds to allow bad players to win more often than they should. Summary: Players making this claim feel that the online poker sites reward bad play. They feel that the odds do not add up: Inside straights hit too often, under-pairs beat over-pairs too often, and so on. The theory is that by having bad plays rewarded ever so slightly more than they should be; bad players will keep their money longer -which leads to more players, which leads to more games, which leads to more rake. Fact or Fiction: This is another area where many players have done a lot of research with large samples of hands, and have found nothing out of the ordinary. However, even a very slight skewing of the odds can achieve the objective outlined, and although this is another conspiracy that is roundly rejected by most players, it cannot be ruled out entirely without a full audit, since the information can be found in hidden hole cards. Verdict: Most Likely Fiction |
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would either of you like to play 20 pounds a point with me.
for every 130 community cards per table, which you can choose on carbon [merge network], i will pay you 20 ponds for every ace under 10 in the sequence of 130 community cards, you how ever only have to pay me 16 pounds for ever ace over 10 in the 130 community card sequence, even with a 20 percent advantage, how much would either of you be prepared to lose before you admitted they are ace heavy boards, and about as random as the days of the week. |
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Is Online Poker ****?
Yes 2,029 35.75% No 3,431 60.45% Undecided 216 3.81% |
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troll my arse.
those HHs are real, my scope history from my crypto days are real, and anyone can prove or make a liar out of my merge claims by simply doing those basic live tests. if the game has been tainted like that, then why trust they just stopped there. run a mile from the contrived garbbage. |
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4 flopped fullhouses and 1 flopped quads in 23 hands, yeah righto, just variance, nothing to see here move along, 100 random tables on random days at ranom times, and an ace every 8 cards and a flushed flop every 8 flops, just variance move along.
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Missed out on some fun here!
Manxy, This is a small forum i would take this indisputable evidence to a larger forum like 2+2 or Blonde so more people can laugh at you! hth. |
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this open offer still stands.
manxy 18 Jan 12 17:15 Joined: 09 Oct 10 | Topic/replies: 3,121 | Blogger: manxy's blog would either of you like to play 20 pounds a point with me. for every 130 community cards per table, which you can choose on carbon [merge network], i will pay you 20 ponds for every ace under 10 in the sequence of 130 community cards, you how ever only have to pay me 16 pounds for ever ace over 10 in the 130 community card sequence, even with a 20 percent advantage, how much would either of you be prepared to lose before you admitted they are ace heavy boards, and about as random as the days of the week. i would recommend due diligence, before accepting. |
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this open offer still stands.
manxy 18 Jan 12 17:15 Joined: 09 Oct 10 | Topic/replies: 3,121 | Blogger: manxy's blog would either of you like to play 20 pounds a point with me. for every 130 community cards per table, which you can choose on carbon [merge network], i will pay you 20 ponds for every ace under 10 in the sequence of 130 community cards, you how ever only have to pay me 16 pounds for ever ace over 10 in the 130 community card sequence, even with a 20 percent advantage, how much would either of you be prepared to lose before you admitted they are ace heavy boards, and about as random as the days of the week. i would recommend due diligence, before accepting. |
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yawn
these threads are very 2010 |
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there is only one b in garbage
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im sure u will be shown the tests fom millions of stats that say otherwise
but just to confirm u got ur stack with playing AJ A9 AT never got sucked out on a7 vs 8888 oop and never win with q6 oop u then gamble AK VS 44 fk then ur finaly was i got sucked out with k 10 vs jj look at this flop QQJ u went all in here on a gamble yet a gain with k 10 so straight and flush draw and think u got hard done by u said earlier u like too slow play or hide ur hand so do other players this first post annoyed me from the beggining with the K T SUCKOUT STORY |
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no your wrong, but ofcourse you know that.
i planned to sit tight, and see a few cheap flops, set mine etc. i wanted to get into top 20 quickly, first opportunity to see a cheap flop was with ace 9, i was big blind, i called a 30 raise into 150 pot, a raise from a player ho raised into every hand double the bb. i spiked 2 pair, he bet the pot, i raised him, at this point i was only worried about the flush draw, couldnt see him having trips, when he re-raised me again i knew he had spiked the ace, you only had to have watched his play to know, that gave me a stack to look at a few more cheap flops hence a cheap look at the flop with ace 10, same muppit same scenario. my AK reraise allin was to take the pot down there and then, he had only put in about 15 percent of his stack, i would of been folding to the table rocks all in, there again i wouldnt of been raising in with pocket 4s, not when there was a 42 percent chance of another pocket pair being dealt out. |
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i also was in 32nd position after my second double thru, i wanted a call on the ak, had i of won, i would have just sat nd played primo paper to stay in top 20.
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Manxy yr a bad player, playing 2 buck donkfests against some of the worst poker players on the entire planet, losing, and blaming God knows what. Any credibility you may think you have, went when you posted the very first hand in this thread.
The hands you have posted are idiots playing bingo. All they prove is that the world is full of donks. Seriously, take what tiny shreds of dignity you have left, and quit while you are behind. |
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if i thought for one second that i would get a random deal here, like the early days with crypto, i would be insta challenging you to 100 dollar heads up, as many as you wanted,
if your ever coming to the isle of man let me know. |
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Do you save hand histories?
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i dont play online, i just tested this network here, at our home game we hav an employee of stars, his job title is interpreter, he spends the majority of his day countering bad talk on the net about stars, 30k plus a year, just to defend stars rep on internet forums, and he is only one of several, he staunchly defended the whole industry, now he is wise enough to only defend his employers.
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f your ever coming to the isle of man let me know
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Username Form Ability /100 Network Filter
chipfire227 Games Played 3,804 Av. Profit $1 Av. Stake $15 Av. ROI 5% Total Profit $2,297 Ability /100 70 Ongame SNG Only Betfair username Games Played 18 Av. Profit $63 Av. Stake $96 Av. ROI 27% Total Profit $1,140 - Ability /100 92 CryptoLogic lol at chipfire, keep grafting you dollar or 2 an hour. |
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pm me for myusernae to double check my earl crypto stats.
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Here are my actual stats for this site.
chipfire227 3,897 $2 $15 5% $8,177 - 74 Ongame And the old Betfair : chipfire227 8,241 $1 $16 6% $9,684 - 73 Betfair Thats profit BEFORE rakeback, leaderbaords, promos, etc, and the Betfair stats dont include MTT's. None of which prove anything of course, other thanthat I've clearly seen a lot more hands of poker than you have. |
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he is a funny littleman alright 70 ability rating 3,800 games to make 2k about 55c a game, and telling me to read a few books after 28 years of live play.
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chipfire227 19 Jan 12 00:06 Joined: 11 Nov 07 | Topic/replies: 2,424 | Blogger: chipfire227's blog Here are my actual stats for this site. chipfire227 3,897 $2 $15 5% $8,177 - 74 Ongame And the old Betfair : chipfire227 8,241 $1 $16 6% $9,684 - 73 Betfair Thats profit BEFORE rakeback, leaderbaords, promos, etc, and the Betfair stats dont include MTT's. None of which prove anything of course, other thanthat I've clearly seen a lot more hands of poker than you have. Wink so basically it all adds up to a dollar a game profit, so you 6 table for 6 bucks an hour, must be very enjoyable. |
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Maths clearly not your strong suit.
I work in a proper job for a living. I make about 6 grand a year tax free playing a bit of poker in my spare time. I'm not Phil Ivey, but I have 6 winning accounts across 6 different networks, all at the expense of players who blame everything but their own bad play when they lose. Everyone on this thread has took the pish out of you old timer. I've actually tried to give you some sound advice. If you dont want it, then fair enough. |