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08 Jul 11
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I played in the Caribean Poker tour event in St Kitts a few years ago and managed that feat.
Pocket Jacks , flop camme JJ6 and I lost
Interested to see if nayone has seen that since or before, and also what the TRUE percentage was as it would be way below 1%
Came KK btw for the man with pocket Kings
Pocket Jacks , flop camme JJ6 and I lost
Interested to see if nayone has seen that since or before, and also what the TRUE percentage was as it would be way below 1%
Came KK btw for the man with pocket Kings
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2 nights on a 20 dollar stt i won with quad aces over quad jacks.
most money didn't go in till after river. |
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0.05%
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I have seen loads of quads over quads
BUT To flop quads and the other guy miss is the worst beat possible after the flop Only two cards in the deck and have to hit them runner runner |
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No biggest bad beat by far and away was at Ongame. I've mentioned it before but I remember it well because it was so ludicrous.
I had AA as chip leader and some guy raises 2x blind I call. Flop is A-3-9 rainbow. Guy goes all in, I call. He shows 2-8?? The percentage shows me as 100%. Turn is a 4 all of a sudden my 100% drops to 95%, river is a 5. He hit the only possible runner-runner combination that could win it for him with absolute junk. You'll never find a worse bad beat than that. Although hands like that (not as ridiculous but close) happen at ongame frequently, especially in sit n gos. |
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Going allin preflop with K 7 off vs mine QQ and flop came QA10 turn 9 river J ..... i have no comment
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Got to agree Zippie thats the worst bad beat ever after the flop, but you were behind preflop
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harter
That is not even close to being a bad beat compared to the example I put up. Any 4 and any 5 is not the same as ONLY 2 cards needed runner runner, it is statistically the worst beat possible after the flop, it is IMPOSSIBLE to have a wrose beat afteer the flop Same as someone having 6 7 hearts an flop comes 8 9 10 hearts and you hold AK hearts only J or Q hearts together can save you and you have to catch em runner runner. Sorry mate, a bad it is but miles behind |
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The percentage shows me as 100%
How did you lose then? |
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Turn is a 4 all of a sudden my 100% drops to 95%,
How can 4 outs make you 95% ? |
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I was in a game a few weeks back and my opponent was shovelling in the money, I was on the nut flush draw. When the river came a flush it was only then that I realised it was a royal flush, I think the first one I have had. Of course I raised him for every dime and he called, he had the highest full house possible. Oh, what a shame
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The percentage shows me as 100%
How did you lose then? Just repeating what the program showed. I'm assuming since he only had 16 outs after the flop and there were 2,070 possible combinations still available it simply showed 100% since the true percentage was 99.52% Zippie assuming there were 6 left at the table by my calculation you were a 99.9% favourite. I think you had a better chance of being struck by lightening. The truth is if it happened at congame or some other site you'd be crying blue murder. Because it happened live you can only accept it. |
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it simply showed 100% since the true percentage was 99.52%
You're wrong, put the hands into a poker calculator. |
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Zippie assuming there were 6 left at the table by my calculation you were a 99.9% favourite.
Do you think it makes a difference how many players were at the table? |
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At ongame if the percentage is 99.5% or above it rounds it up to 100%.
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On Skypoker...I had 77 flop 7-6-3...3 of us ended up all in on the flop...1 had 66...1 had 6-3...I thought great I can't lose!! But did :(
Omaha cash once..flop 444..I had the 4...lost to running queens :( |
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Zippie assuming there were 6 left at the table by my calculation you were a 99.9% favourite.
Do you think it makes a difference how many players were at the table? Of course it does. If there were 6 at the table and 2 cards were dealt to each plyer and 3 community cards turned up then 15 cards were removed from the deck. Obviously if someone else was dealt a K the percentage of losing was 0, but we're talking about the percentage of hitting KK assuming there was no other K dealt. with 15 cards removed there were a total of 1,332 combinations available (37x36) and only 1 of hitting KK. So the odds were 1/1,332 *100 or 0.075%. Naturally if there were fewer players at the table the percentage went down and if there were more the percentage went up assuming no one else was dealt a K. As for my hand there were 4 left at the table. I know my 2 cards didn't have 45 nor did the guy against me nor did the community cards. So there were a grand total of 45x44 hands available for those last 2 cards (no idea what anyone else had) or 1,980 hands. There were only 16 combinations of cards that could give a 4-5 eg. 4S-5S, 4C-5H etc. So the odds of hitting the 4-5 (his only out) was 16/1,980x100 or 0.8%. So I guess it should have actually shown 99% instead of 100% - but the computer did indeed show 100% so it must have been a glitch. Once the 4 came on the turn he had 4 outs out of 44 hands to hit the 5 so it should have been 91%. Again I don't know why it showed 95% but I seem to recall seeing that. Of course I could be off on my math :). |
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Of course the computer knows what hands it dealt to other players so I'm assuming at least one 4 or 5 was dealt out in the 2 cards which is why it showed 100%? Only possible explanation.
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harter Joined: 05 Oct 04
Of course I could be off on my math :). ............................ I gave the answer...And yes your math is off ... Did you study probability? [;)] |
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Odds of Zippie losing.... 990/1
Odds of Harter losing.... 62/1 |
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zippie is that it..call it a bad beat when it happens on a regular basis(bf bingo)
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harter
You have wasted your time with your calculations, they are flawed and wrong. It doesn't matter if you are hu or eight people have folded, mucked cards do not count when working out percentages you have to assume the mucked cards are still in the deck. |
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bishy
just shooting the breeze here as it is a very very rare beat. Partake if you wish, if not why not gfy [;)] |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYrUB1ETfgI
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exactly the same odds as my beat.
As I said it was the worst possible beat after the flop. |
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Strangely I've never encountered a monster bad beat and I've played probably millions of hands. Either I'm special or a tight arse that would probably fold quads if I felt I was behind
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Did lose KK v 22 5 mins ago, chips were in pre flop but I hit my set and he hit his runner runner straight.
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wsop main event a few years ago
player 1 has jj player 2 has ak flop j33 player 1 checks player 2 all in player 1 calls turn card 3,river card 3 player 2 wins,quad 3,s ace kicker |
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Ive lost with quad Kings
Flopped quads turn and river were aces geuss what the other guy had luckily it was small stakes cash |
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Some of these are really funny
The pocket jacks that hit a full house on the flop with jack three three, only to lose to quad threes with ace kicker is phuckin hilarious |
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am i missing something here? you're the second person to write quad threes ace kicker. is there a hand equal to quad threes?
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charly - The quad 3's all came on the board (ie both players had it!) so the best 5 card hand is obviously the 3's plus one other, in this case the ace beats the jack, ergo quad 3's with an ace kicker
 I think that's right [smiley:crazy] |
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nice one, didn't read it right, thought he had pocket 3's.
can't even find the embarassed smiley lol. |
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ive lost on a2 spades in hole 345 spades flop lost to 78 spades when 6 spades rivered
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Ouch that is a bad beat Zippie!
Remember years ago playing in the Carribean Poker Classic & we were on the bubble which was about 9k. Table captain raises all in v blinds and the big blind stands up & starts shouting (highly strung oriental chap). Dealer offered to do chip count as both big stacks and he screams 'Fck the chip count, I call' and slams his AA down on the table. Other fella had J10 and cvrd him by about 2 blinds. Of course J10 - hits perfect runner runner turn & river for str8  Poor chap with AA started shedding a few tears, swore, and stormed off!! Everyone was relieved @ the table we had cashed but tried to suppress our giggles as the whole scene was like a Hollywood film of rancid luck! |
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just matched you zippie. 10 player sit n go at our favourite site. I had 9-9. Flop is 9-9-J. Guy goes all in, other guy calls, I call. One shows j-j other q-q. turn is q, river q.
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Oh, and the first fella out in the whole tourney was a will hill player who kinda knew being a will hill player myself. He gets QQ, flop Qxx. Turn another blank. Raising back & forth on turn with inevitable all ins. Oppo has KK. Dealer then of course rivers the K. He was sick as a pig, lasted 5 minutes & about 2 hands & all in with 95% chance.
Poker can be a very cruel game. |
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Truth is when it happens live you just wave it off as a bad beat. Online you question the validity of the RNG.
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ive got the worst bad beat ever,happened 2 weeks ago on ongame
ive ace hearts 10 hearts flop comes 8j4 2hearts turn comes 2 hearts river comes 6 hearts money goes all in on the turn villian shows 3 hearts 5 hearts he hit 1 outer on the turn and another 1 outer on the river |
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he hit 1 outer on the turn and another 1 outer on the river
Classic |
