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By:
jbarnes (no not him)
When: 23 Jun 11 20:10
in exchange for my hoodie circa 6 years i may be interested
By:
The Klup
When: 23 Jun 11 21:38
Lets look at this from a different angle.

What will having two forum reps being there actually achieve?

I personally do not need convincing about the effort, dedication and drive of the good eggs at Betfair. There are a lot of good things that Betfair do that most of us do not see or will ever appreciate - and that's a fact!

Last night the Affiliate Manager (Daniela), won the WIG Affiliate Manager of the Year award and regardless of the impression some of you might have with regards to Betfair - But she truly, absolutely deserved it.

But this is the way I see it after this Q&A session:

The senior managers will be well qualified and well informed and give it all the lip service thats required to ensure the two reps walk away thinking ... they (Betfair) are actually quite well organised, professional etc. 

But frontline CS still suck ... and all the lip service in the world accounts for nothing. What will senior managers do about it? Nothing - because they will read their management reports, look at the stats (Prepared by CS), hear the managers reports and think ... we're doing great! When I have an issue, i now just email those who can and will deal with it.

Klup's NOT interested in going. I wont learn anything new and doubt the management team will either.
By:
Waheyyyy
When: 24 Jun 11 13:24
Looking at your novel annie, I have no idea whatsoever why you're playing on Betfair and not on ipoker lol.
By:
annie.
When: 24 Jun 11 13:43
It is mainly because of the betair promotions, waheyyy.  Like today, the skill and go promotion starts, but there is nothing similar on ipoker.  It is also because everyone says that the player skill level is less on here. I am also not joining any other site until I can devote time to get their bonus.

My posts are usually much longer than other posts because I can touch type.  I tend to think that as I can, it is my duty to do all the posts informing betfair at length how crap they are  Laugh
By:
de 1
When: 24 Jun 11 14:23
If we do end up having 2 "reps" going to this farce can we have players who actually still play this site - not any of the self confessed "i dont play betfair anymore" types
By:
GrandTilt
When: 24 Jun 11 14:51
The finalists for Betfair Poker Ambassador will be chosen next week.

It is entirely up to the community who they choose - if they choose to go with someone who doesn't play on the site then that is their choice.
By:
annie.
When: 24 Jun 11 16:43
As you are replying to this thread, betfairpr, can we have your assurance that there will be ABSOLUTELY NO BALLS UP, regarding the skill and go promotion. 

I have started playing this and I am looking forward to seeing the leaderboard tomorrow, or is it the next day?  Whatever day it is supposed to be, please make sure it is there.  I have joined some of your promotions and the leaderboard results are hopeless.  How can we judge whether it is okay to go on, or is that the point - keep us playing when we do not have a hope, but don't know we do  Sad
By:
Waheyyyy
When: 24 Jun 11 16:46
finalists for Betfair Poker Ambassador  LaughLaughLaugh
By:
GrandTilt
When: 24 Jun 11 17:18
Annie

No I can't guarantee 100% it won't go wrong but I promise we will try really hard not to mess it up!
Love
By:
GrandTilt
When: 24 Jun 11 17:20
Waheyyyy

Wait till they go to Boot Camp and they have to perform live in front of the judges - that's my favourite part!

Have a good weekend.
By:
GHADDAFFI.
When: 24 Jun 11 18:24
I would love to go and tell them a few home truths
By:
GHADDAFFI.
When: 24 Jun 11 18:27
I think  the Klup is probably the right man for the job though, he can't resist a beer and a pizza
By:
McCoy Carp
When: 24 Jun 11 18:49
You are the right man for the job - but i will brief you on what to say and how to behave.
By:
akabula
When: 24 Jun 11 19:02
despite his comments about being cynical i still think that chipfire would be the ideal candidate for this trip with gnasher joining him
By:
chipfire227
When: 24 Jun 11 19:14
Assuming they are based in London, I think me and Gnash are probably bad choices from a geographical standpoint. I wouldn't fancy taking 1 or 2 days off work, and making a 7 hour round trip, to have a look around an office. And thats assuming the bank I work for would give me the time off.

It may come as a shock to  some down there, but we have offices in the North I could look around if I were thataway inclined .We even have Pizza retailers. Shocked
By:
NickFiickTheOriginal
When: 25 Jun 11 01:09
I'm going vote for gnasher and annie. But if too much for gnasher to travel then helmuthian folds gets my alternative.

If its the one in Hammersmith, London then it would not cost me a penny to get there - apart from i'm likely to be on holiday at time they suggest.

If its an Xfactor contests then sleepwalker has to be there. Jungle challenges of beer and pizza then klup has to be there.
By:
harter
When: 25 Jun 11 04:44
The question - who wants a free trip to England? Lol.

Whoever goes though can you please bring up the question as to whether Ongame is the best network for Betfair? As you can see from all the comments there hasn't been much love for the software since BF switched over.

I understand BF found the need to switch because their proprietary poker product wasn't generating enough volume but the majority of Ongame players seem to be fish and shot takers which totally goes against Betfair's philosophy which promotes skill.
By:
JoKeR373
When: 25 Jun 11 11:45
my vote goes for gnasher and helmuth folds.
By:
quack
When: 25 Jun 11 13:32
Helmuthian Folds & The Klup Love
By:
annie.
When: 25 Jun 11 16:49
Dear Mr Betfair Poker PR  Love

It is now 16.38 and there is still no leaderboard for the skill and go competition.  Your skill and go leaderboard page says that the leaderboard will appear on the 25th June, without saying at what time.  This is not acceptable.  You did say that you were going to try really, really hard not to mess the skill and go competition up AGAIN, like all the other competitions, but judging by this it seems it will go the way of all the other promotions  Sad

So, can we have a time for the leaderbaord to appear, and if not an explanation.

Yours in anticipation  Silly

Annie
By:
wingdings2
When: 25 Jun 11 16:53
Annie

The leaderboards rarely update / appear before 5.30 - 6.00pm and it tends to be flakier on the weekends.

Don't hold your breath! Laugh
By:
wingdings2
When: 25 Jun 11 16:54
Before the leaderboards appear, I'll take a punt that gnasher is miles in front, he's set his stall out for this methinks!
By:
gnashersblackpool
When: 25 Jun 11 18:52
bobinorocosu and ********  [formly prigonna and outofluck] will win i fear.
By:
wingdings2
When: 25 Jun 11 19:15
Interesting that only 6 players from the UK are in the top 50 and 2 of them are down in 47th and 48th. Nice to see which countries people are from though. Wish we could have that at the tables.

Get your nut down and give em a beating gnasher [;)]

I'm aiming for top 5.
By:
annie.
When: 25 Jun 11 19:33
wingdings2, are you talking about this week's leaderboard?
By:
gnashersblackpool
When: 25 Jun 11 19:38
its there now, u need to close browser and re enter.
By:
annie.
When: 25 Jun 11 20:13
Thank you, gnasher.  I did what you said and I can see it now.  Although I wish I did not  Laugh

At least it has shown me I do not stand a chance at my low level of play and I will now possibly play on ipoker.  I still have not decided on what type of game suits me best, cash or sngs and which site is better for either.  I was interested in this promotion because with one of their other cash promotions I did  bubble under the money and I do not play that much, so I thought this would suit, but I rake more on cash.  Come to think of it, that was one of the promotions they messed up and I played specifically because of the promotion and then the time was wasted  Sad

Could you tell me how many games you played at what level to be top?  I totally understand if you do not want to disclose this, though.
By:
wingdings2
When: 25 Jun 11 20:17
You need to be playing about 150 games a day to have a chance of a reasonable cash Annie.

I would imagine Gnasher has played over 200 in the first day and he's playing at the higher stake levels.
By:
annie.
When: 25 Jun 11 22:46
WOW, wingdings  Shocked

I should have asked before I played on here yesterday  Cry

Thanks, wingdings, it is good to know these things.  I have been playing poker for over one and a half years and I am still learning.  I wished there were more hours in the day so I could learn quicker.
By:
Big Bad Dog
When: 26 Jun 11 22:59
anybody bt klup as clear conflict of interests...if u pt him on may as well give 2 some on betfair poker employee!
By:
annie.
When: 27 Jun 11 15:15
Sorry to everyone who voted for me, but I have just remembered that I am hopefully going around the world this winter, so I would not be able to do justice to the job. So please could those who voted for me vote again. 

One thing I hope that voters remember, is those who actually help others on here.  If they take their time to post replies for help about poker, then they are knowledgeable and helpful, a winning combination. 

In fact I think that if betfair persist with this, then they would be better off picking the ambassadors themselves.  They know the winning, large stake punters and the recreational punters, and by looking on here to see who is articulate and helpful could come up with good choices.  I would not trust some of the posters on the forum to vote for the right person.
By:
GrandTilt
When: 27 Jun 11 15:23
Please vote for your representative here!

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/BQCH7MR

The four with the most votes (annie opted not to take part) are in a survey.
Your vote will decide who become the next Betfair Poker Ambassador.
By:
annie.
When: 27 Jun 11 17:01
I have just looked at the survey and the four candidates are chipfire, gnashers, Klup and helmuthian folds.  As Klup has said he is not interested and chipfire has been lukewarm about it, has betfair contacted all the candidates to check they would go?
By:
GrandTilt
When: 27 Jun 11 17:21
Good point Annie.
I have asked all four to respond as there is no point voting if they cannot attend or are not interested.
By:
five leaves left
When: 27 Jun 11 17:23
1.1 HF.

He gets my vote.
By:
Helmuthian Folds
When: 27 Jun 11 17:54
I am quite happy to do it and will happily give a little bit of background......

I have played on Betfair since 2004 as Thrappers and Finalinsult.  I only play occasionally (3 or 4 tourneys a week) here now as I despise the ongame software.

I have been vocal of my criticisms of the Customer Service on here for years and still feel it falls well below the norm.

I currently work as a senior trader for a UK bookmaker and have experience in dealing with senior management within this industry.

If selected I would do my best to represent all the gripes of the forum equally and fairly (apart from the its all **** brigade) and would take any role such as this seriously and not just as a beer and pizza jolly up.
By:
McCoy Carp
When: 27 Jun 11 18:44
Well done. Someone puts themselves forward as a valid candidate.
By:
annie.
When: 27 Jun 11 20:01
Excellent, Helmuthian Folds Happy

I only know something of Klup, so these potted histories are a good way to inform posters.  I will not vote for chipfire as I do not like the way he is nasty at posters who are not as good at poker as him, me included.  He also does not seem enthusiastic about the idea, so why is his name put forward?  We want someone like you, HF, who will take it seriously.  I also like the idea of gnashers, as he plays LOADS on here and is well placed to put the side of the grinders.
By:
NickFiickTheOriginal
When: 27 Jun 11 21:04
Annie. Not sure why you excluded yourself when clearly said for mid/late July early august. And as I'm on holiday I said no early.

Others too said interested. Perhaps all of this thread should have been read. Is that too much to ask?

Happy to vote for 2 for a 2 horse race. If that's how they organise betting on this site perhaps I'll look at that one day.
By:
annie.
When: 27 Jun 11 21:21
I know it is july/ august, nick, but if I go away in possibly September, then there would be no continuity.  If I go, then it will be for at least a couple of months, maybe longer and maybe forever.  I would be moving around and so could not guarantee internet access.  I think an ambassador should be able to offer more than that.
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