more colluders

doesn't look promising

7Shoguns wengaboy Combined
Total Played 566 350
Played Together 105 105
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,7Shoguns wengaboy Combined
Av. ROI Apart ,,,,2%,,,,,,,, -6%,,,,,,,,, -2%
Av. ROI Together 16%,,,,,, 13% ,,,,,,14.5%

Sorry if my commas epic fail.

duly reported. gist of the communication to betfair reads :

im getting pig sick of the collusion on this site in d2ns , and the fact players are having to report it, suggesting betfair are reactive rather than proactive. does anyone actually police the site ?

if i ever see these 2 players sat on a betfair table again after this weekend then i will quit the site for good.

wonder if those sat at the tables and who lost in the 105 games these 2 played together will get refunded like they would on any normal site ?

Keep us posted Chippie.
I got nowhere with my complaint, the main reason I think, being, that the people in the poker department don't actually recognise collusion, or attempted collusion, when they see it.

the last lot i reported got banned, and after the table chat last night where they were openly challenged by me and entabeni, i notice the pair of them havent played again.

betfair will ban people if you send them the evidence, but they seem very reluctant to go down the route of automatically refunding anyone who has been **ed, which should be a given when colluding is even suspected of taking place to maintain the integrity of the site.

im pretty sure their response will be that both of the players involved are overall losers, but as the scope stats prove the pair of themn were very big winners when they played together. a double figure roi in d2ns is pretty rare, and for it to be achieved by bad players just proves how financially rewarding colluding can be in d2ns.

okay this pair were only plaing low stakes but thats how the last lot of germans started and they ended up playing and winning in 200$ games.

its also very worrying that bf doesnt have some kind of mechanisim for flagging up players who consistently play stt's together. where you have a small pool of players on a site its inevitable you will cross paths with players time and time again, but these 2 had reached the satge where they were almost exclusively playing in the same games and never meaningfully engaging one another in a pot, even on the bubble. surely this must get flagged up somewhere in a security department ?

My guy was German too and his was an attempt to collude with an innocent party at the bubble. He was chat banned for doing it but Betfair still won't issue a refund.

These two Swedes are HOT!!!!! when they are on the same table!!!!!!!!!!! INYOURFACE!!!!!!!! Verification Team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

do you play on betfair sammy ?