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Lenny the Guvnor
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Ok so after the last staking period i learnt a lot of things. I learnt i do have the ability to not tilt and have found my own way of doing this. I also learned which games could prove to be the most profitable and which games i can say i beat.

My stats if you have not yet seen them are on the previous staking thread.

After the last staking period i caked $750. Obviously stars you don't get any cakeback as such. I have 27% at full tilt which would obviously make a massive difference if i am caking say $1k a month. This is why i would like to switch the staking over to there.

I want to stick to $25nlh 6 handed, with 40 buyins. $1k. The staking period will last 50,000 hands and cakeback will be included in the totals. The split will be 50/50 including cakeback.

Priority will be given to those who have staked previously and can be sold in no less than chunks of 5% - $50.

All updates will be given via email/msn/facebook and i expect this thread to die when/if i get the stake together.

Cheers,

Ben
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Report spackers1 January 11, 2010 2:55 PM GMT
why ply on an american site u cud ply a euro site with easier games amd bigger rb!
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 11, 2010 3:00 PM GMT
American site for ease of getting the money in and out of the site...
Report joffy January 11, 2010 3:16 PM GMT
Ill have 20% like the last one will ship 200$ once you have the full qouta.
Report Keith A January 11, 2010 3:29 PM GMT
I wouldn't mind 20%
Report jbarnes (no not him) January 11, 2010 3:30 PM GMT
i dont really understand why u would choose to play at f tilt tbh but good luck

surely withdrawing money isnt a massive factor with bank transfers now instant etal
Report lee h2 January 11, 2010 3:39 PM GMT
Why cant you get the money off your friends or family
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 11, 2010 3:39 PM GMT
Horton relax please
Report lee h2 January 11, 2010 3:41 PM GMT
I am relaxed, just askin a simple question
Report Rowland Browning January 11, 2010 3:53 PM GMT
friends (non poker) and family are surely the last people you'd want to ask to assist in a "gambling" venture.
Report banking January 11, 2010 3:54 PM GMT
But friend/family wont want 50%, just have it as a loan. Supposedly hes very good so he wont lose
Report Rowland Browning January 11, 2010 3:56 PM GMT
If i asked my family for poker money they be on to GA in minutes.
people outside of our little punting world DO NOT UNDERSTAND US and never will. WE ARE MUGS , END OF
Report The Ichtyologist January 11, 2010 4:54 PM GMT
I'll take 10% again, thanks. Can ship anytime this evening.
Report Escapee January 11, 2010 5:06 PM GMT
40 Buyins ?

why do you need so many buy ins ?
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 11, 2010 6:03 PM GMT
So i can grim everyone and have a good holiday
Report JPJ January 11, 2010 6:13 PM GMT
Please put me on the reserve list for 20% if your origonal backers decide against it.

GL Ben. :)
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 11, 2010 6:14 PM GMT
Cheers jase. 90% of interest now, will speak to Dave and Rob and see if they want anything if not ill take you uo on that offer :D
Report ddomo January 11, 2010 6:15 PM GMT
hi i'm new to this poker .... so this is probably a really stupid question ....but

if you are a good player but dont have $1k .... why can't you turn $10 in to a thousand and then keep all the profit ...... ??
and why would any body invest in a player that cant raise $1k this way..??

so there it is .....2 probably stupid questions ....

I have seen these staking threads befor so there must be a good answer.....

please any body with sensible answers ??

thanx dom
Report 15Stone10Lbs January 11, 2010 7:12 PM GMT
you answered it yourself if this guy was any good he wouldn't need stalking. couiple of mickey mouse results in some mtt's and still milking it.

put him on the cash table and the red mist desends ...suddenly all his cash is vamoush and he is in here scrounging for scraps..

get a job
Report bethammer January 11, 2010 7:16 PM GMT
ill take 10% if you have any left
Report Nova Sicko January 11, 2010 7:21 PM GMT
can I have 150% also please
Report samuel2512 January 11, 2010 7:26 PM GMT
15Stone10Lbs 11 Jan 20:12


you answered it yourself if this guy was any good he wouldn't need stalking. couiple of mickey mouse results in some mtt's and still milking it.

put him on the cash table and the red mist desends ...suddenly all his cash is vamoush and he is in here scrounging for scraps..

get a job

thats a brutal post......
what gets me is that about 6% of all players show ANY profit and yet everyone who posts on here talks like theyve cracked it......i wish the guy good luck if hes turnin a profit whys so many keen to knock him
Report Waheyyyy January 11, 2010 7:51 PM GMT
I'll have 10% if there's anything left. Looks like you have more than enough backers though.
Report charwell. January 11, 2010 7:52 PM GMT
I will take 10% at $100
Report Hull city January 11, 2010 8:23 PM GMT
plenty of backers m8!!

good luck with it - if for any reason theres any left i'll do 20%

kev (boro)
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 11, 2010 9:12 PM GMT
ok nice to see a lot of interest. I will do a random draw for the %s. Hope nobody minds this. 50,000 hands should take around a month and if successful i will do another one so those who dont get a piece this time will be prioritised next time.

Those who have staked previously already get their piece and i will draw for the rest.

Boro Kev - 20%
Joffy - 20%
Itchy - 10%
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 11, 2010 9:13 PM GMT
Nova was that sarcasm or a mistyped genuine offer?
Report HU4ROLLZ? January 11, 2010 9:18 PM GMT
since this is now a popular issue on the forum would ppl consider taking bets on whether you complete 50k hands (in a given period) and/or make a profit. I am not being facetious, I think that it would be a fun market and may give you extra motivation...
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 11, 2010 9:20 PM GMT
Id take action probs on 1 month limit 50k hands in profit before** Let me know what price
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 11, 2010 9:22 PM GMT
Boro Kev - 20%
Joffy - 20%
Itchy - 10%
Engy - 20%

random draw - each for 10%

Chief
Charwell
JPJ

Thanks to the others will give you a chance on the next one.
Report 15Stone10Lbs January 11, 2010 9:24 PM GMT
the one that got away...
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 11, 2010 9:24 PM GMT
Can all monies be sent to 'sfc21' on fll tilt. First letter B pic of an elephant i think.
Report HU4ROLLZ? January 11, 2010 9:26 PM GMT
off top of my head 50k hands in one month (any 30 day period) with a profit of any bb/100 would be somewhere in the region of 4/6..1.66..so im backing for you not to do it at 6/4...this probably seems a bit big and anyway you might not want to do it as if you make profit you're happy enough...I'll stew it over...if my odds are way out then someone let me know but I know lots of professional grinders who play 100k hands a month and haven't had a losing month in a year.

anyway gl
Report Hull city January 11, 2010 9:41 PM GMT
sent - good luck m8
Report Hull city January 11, 2010 9:42 PM GMT
from wahiba
Report Keith A January 11, 2010 10:07 PM GMT
Did u miss me?
Report engy-carlisle January 11, 2010 10:57 PM GMT
sent ben
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 11, 2010 11:00 PM GMT
Keith i put u in the draw of 6 people and 3 of them got the option for 10%. If any pull out i will put you 1st reserve. Thanks for the offer mate
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 11, 2010 11:00 PM GMT
and recieved guys ty
Report Keith A January 11, 2010 11:00 PM GMT
no probs, gl
Report aristonandon January 11, 2010 11:03 PM GMT
gl with it ben and please do not tilt and stick to it. you can beat 25/50 over 50k hands in your sleep if you stick to it and dont try swapping to omaha or anything daft.

a good return over 50k hands should be around 4000+ on the month which is a nice return for you and your backers and is easily done if you stick to your own rules.

im online most days as you know so if you ever need to moan about a beat or me to have a look at your HEM gimme a shout.
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 11, 2010 11:04 PM GMT
cheers ari, top man
Report HYPE January 11, 2010 11:16 PM GMT
I will give you £1k if you never post on this staking thread again. Agreed ?
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 11, 2010 11:21 PM GMT
Lol
Report JPJ January 12, 2010 9:09 AM GMT
$100 Sent. Let me know you've got it.

Cheers :)
Report Mr Auric Goldfinger January 12, 2010 10:00 AM GMT
Good luck with this.

How come you aren't playing heads up games any more? You seemed to destroy these when you played on betfair.
Report garybet. January 12, 2010 10:13 AM GMT
aristonandon 12 Jan 00:03


gl with it ben and please do not tilt and stick to it. you can beat 25/50 over 50k hands in your sleep if you stick to it and dont try swapping to omaha or anything daft.

a good return over 50k hands should be around 4000+ on the month which is a nice return for you and your backers and is easily done if you stick to your own rules.



I have no idea if lenny can play or not but to get around 17ptbb/100 running average is almost impossible unless you are one of the select few imo.
Report charwell. January 12, 2010 10:53 AM GMT
$100 shipped.

Good luck
Report The Ichtyologist January 12, 2010 10:53 AM GMT
Sent, gl.

Remember to gather our emails or whatever so as to keep this off the forum. You'll find me at Ichtyology@live.com
Report joffy January 12, 2010 11:15 AM GMT
Sent 300 on stars mate so u will need to get it over to ft. Thats for me and chief
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 12, 2010 1:11 PM GMT
Cheers lads. all recieved. Can anyone swap $300 on stars for $300 on**?
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 12, 2010 1:15 PM GMT
And also if everyone can post their emails or email them to me at mayrobben@**.co.uk then i will send an update out after every 5/10k hands. Cheers
Report Hull city January 12, 2010 1:20 PM GMT
k_fw@**.co.uk

again best of luck m8 - in the words of the old bag - PMA!!!!
Report ddomo January 12, 2010 1:26 PM GMT
i'm new to this poker .... so this is probably a really stupid question ....but

if you are a good player but dont have $1k .... why can't you turn $10 in to a thousand and then keep all the profit ...... ??
and why would any body invest in a player that cant raise $1k this way..??

so there it is .....2 probably stupid questions ....

I have seen these staking threads befor so there must be a good answer.....

please any body with sensible answers ??

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

stilll no answer .......... so i would really like to know how this little venture pans

will there be a thread with up dates ??
Report ddomo January 12, 2010 1:27 PM GMT
stilll no answer .......... so i would really like to know how this little venture pans out

will there be a thread with up dates ??
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 12, 2010 1:30 PM GMT
ddomo - Much easier to turn $1k into $2k than $10 into $1k...

After the last updates thread got hijacked by the betfair militia updates on this will be private for backers only. Cheers
Report The Ichtyologist January 12, 2010 3:47 PM GMT
Did you see my email? It's posted on the bottom of the last page.

Best of luck, looking forward updates.
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 12, 2010 4:05 PM GMT
Yep got it ichty, thanks
Report charwell. January 12, 2010 4:55 PM GMT
What are the ******** on your e-mail addy please?
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 12, 2010 5:57 PM GMT
hot mail
Report BlufDaddy January 12, 2010 7:02 PM GMT
Why would anyone wanna stake someone that has a BB/100 of -2.17 over 11k hands at $0.1/$0.25?

I don't get it.
Report system99 January 12, 2010 7:26 PM GMT
bluff - u do realise betfair is a gambling site yeah? with that in mind do u think the people posting might like a punt? maybe even class it fun!!
Report McCoy Carp January 12, 2010 7:34 PM GMT
well said.
Report BlufDaddy January 12, 2010 8:08 PM GMT
Do you realise that most people generally aim to win money from their punts, and that betting on a losing player isn't likely to achieve that aim?
Report 15Stone10Lbs January 12, 2010 9:12 PM GMT
easy, they are mugs
Report Nova Sicko January 12, 2010 9:18 PM GMT
BlufDaddy 12 Jan 20:02
Why would anyone wanna stake someone that has a BB/100 of -2.17 over 11k hands at $0.1/$0.25?

I don't get it.


people just rolling to have another epic fred
Report "M" January 12, 2010 9:43 PM GMT
most people generally aim to win money from their punts

Self-same people will also play blackjack, roulette, craps and fruit machines, even when they know that long term the house wins, just for the thrill of it.
Report JPJ January 12, 2010 9:54 PM GMT
jason_jones84@yahoo.co.uk

gl my son :)
Report BlufDaddy January 12, 2010 9:55 PM GMT
Yeah, but there is some actuall thrill involved in playing those games. I don't understand the thrill in giving someone £100 then them sending you an email 8 hours later saying "you now have £98".
Report JPJ January 12, 2010 10:12 PM GMT
He's a good lad Marc. If he fails he fails. Don't mind giving him a chance to focus on something. I Think you're also a good lad, never got involved in any of the things between the two of you because, although i haven't met you we always had good conversations on here. I've met Ben numerous times and he's a good kid.

I would also happily help/sponsor/back you too mate, and it wouldn't bother me if you was a winning or losing player if i felt as a friend i could have a punt on you.

So just let it go and let 'us' take the risk that we don't seem to mind taking.

Cheers mate :)
Report Horace plays Poker January 12, 2010 10:22 PM GMT
didnt he make a small profit last time?

if so - seems okto me

goodluck
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 14, 2010 3:50 AM GMT
progress email sent out guys.
Report HU4ROLLZ? January 14, 2010 9:17 PM GMT
JPJ, can you really be that nice of a guy? I haven't actually seen you ever have a go on here at some. I bet you go out and murder people at night though ! I like reading these threads but they never come to much..it's like one huge martingale..if we lose we either go bust or double up and go bust..if we win, we move up stakes to make all the money we think we deserve to make and end up blowing it all.

Be patient and try and turn 1k into 2k.
Report chop180 January 14, 2010 9:23 PM GMT
JPJ is the forum good guy ;) and sorely needed amongst the **ing and insults imho ;)
Report chop180 January 14, 2010 9:23 PM GMT
*bitc hing
Report chipfire227 January 14, 2010 9:33 PM GMT
his post brought a moistness to my eye.

2010, the year of being thoroughly decent. well played sir.
Report JPJ January 15, 2010 2:50 AM GMT
Tx HU4ROLLZ Chipfire and Ray ;)

It's easier to be nice than nasty imho :)
Report canaryboy January 15, 2010 8:14 AM GMT
i''ve made JPJ lose it before

he couldn't stop seething lol

ah we need more tennis threads imo
Report aristonandon January 15, 2010 9:02 AM GMT
agree canary they were fun threads

murray has a nice easy aussie draw i see lol. if he manages to win with that draw I will admit hes great ;)
Report canaryboy January 15, 2010 9:59 AM GMT
lol i don't know why his draw is supposed to be so horrific tbh

avoided fed and davydenko's half

del potro was terrible in it last year and no idea when rafa last beat a top player
Report canaryboy January 15, 2010 10:02 AM GMT
if i had to pick a quarter form him to be in it would be with rafa and he got it

not sure rafa will make the quarters anyway
Report charwell. January 15, 2010 10:25 AM GMT
Thanks for the update & keep up the good work ;)
Report jamesbeckton. January 15, 2010 10:40 AM GMT
never underestimate Rafa. He will return like Lazarus. Without Rafa we are left with Federer not caring and Del Potro winning playing average.
Report aristonandon January 15, 2010 1:02 PM GMT
but hasnt murray got an outstanding record down there if we are saying del potro plays bad down there???

will be interesting to see if he can even make the quarters and not choke v some other unknown :p even money on an early season back strain in round 3 for me ;)
Report jamesbeckton. January 15, 2010 1:04 PM GMT
Murray hasn't been playing very well lately and if he gets a long match in the sun (Australia in biggest heatwave ever at the moment) then could struggle.
Report JPJ January 16, 2010 8:40 AM GMT
I owned you in those threads Mike ;)

And just look at the facts. You claimed Murray was here to rule the world and Fed was finnished, i claimed Fed would win more grand slams and Murray would win none.

One of us got it right :) :)
Report chop180 January 16, 2010 9:51 AM GMT
Not me JPJ but i echo his comments.

Ray
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 17, 2010 3:52 AM GMT
update sent guys
Report 5LEEPWALKER January 17, 2010 7:10 AM GMT
I've not read all the comments on the 2 threads about the staking, And although I also wondered why someone who's supposed to be good could need to ask for this

Maybe this person didn't want to come on here and ask, But has done. I think people are out of order for all the negative comments

Its disgusting how people get jealous of others when they don't even know nothing about the person
(I say take the negative comments and make them eat there words)

All the best to the people that have put there money into this

From 5LEEPWALKER (THE GREATEST)
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 18, 2010 5:28 PM GMT
update sent from sunny spain fellas. Ive nicked the money and im on the beach
Report Horace plays Poker January 18, 2010 10:27 PM GMT
Lenny the Guvnor 18 Jan 18:28


update sent from sunny spain fellas. Ive nicked the money and im on the beach

I would be interested in updates but understand if you don't want to post here!
Report leaner January 19, 2010 12:33 AM GMT
have been reading with interest too, any updates available to post please?
Report JPJ January 19, 2010 5:44 AM GMT
He's winning at the moment. He's played about 36,000 hands.

He doesn't want to let this thread get like the other one which is why no updates, but it is nice that he has some support and good wishes. :)
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 19, 2010 7:00 AM GMT
Like JPJ said. Dont mind adding you to the e-mail update list if you send me your email to mayrobben@**.co.uk.

Next update will be the final update though. Hopefully be done by the end of the week which is much quicker than i thought it would be done!
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 19, 2010 7:01 AM GMT
h0tmail
Report Keith A January 19, 2010 9:09 AM GMT
ben add me pls kietharnold at aol dot com

ty
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 19, 2010 10:09 AM GMT
assume you spelt keith wrong? sent to keitharnold@
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 19, 2010 10:11 AM GMT
ahh it got returned so i assume it was right, resent
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 20, 2010 4:35 PM GMT
All done guys. Email on its way

Look out for Staking Part 3 folks.
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 20, 2010 4:58 PM GMT
Email and monies sent
Report Lenny the Guvnor January 21, 2010 7:44 AM GMT
Will work out the final totals when hendonmob update their cake stats later today and i will send all remaining payments on Friday 29th Jan. Hope this is ok with everyone. Cheers,

Ben
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