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Table Table 993761 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 2: Doeks111 (813666)
Seat 4: Hero (362233)
Seat 7: ganjasx (276780)
Seat 8: dima358 (455321)
Doeks111 posts ante (500)
Hero posts ante (500)
ganjasx posts ante (500)
dima358 posts ante (500)
Doeks111 posts small blind (10000)
Hero posts big blind (20000)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Ac, Kh ]
ganjasx folds
dima358 folds
Doeks111 raises 803166 to 813166
Doeks111 is all-In.
Hero calls (341733)
Hero is all-In.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 9c, 7h, Th ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 9s ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 4d ]
Creating Main Pot with 725466.0 with Hero
** Summary **
Main Pot: 725466
Board: [ 9c 7h Th 9s 4d ]
Doeks111 balance 1176899, bet 813666, collected 1176899, net +363233 [ Ah As ] [ two pairs, aces and nines -- Ah,As,Th,9c,9s ]
Hero balance 0, lost 362233 [ Ac Kh ] [ a pair of nines -- Ac,Kh,Th,9c,9s ]
ganjasx balance 276280, lost 500 (folded)
dima358 balance 454821, lost 500 (folded)

The only way this can be explained is he could see my cards. Aces 4 handed played like that??? I have written to ibas. Is there a poker governing body I can report this to?
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Report C8 January 14, 2010 4:30 PM GMT
The only mug here is u.
if u think its rigged and players can see your cards then dont play.
HTH
Lots of players play that way anyway.
Report R0ykeane January 14, 2010 4:30 PM GMT
32k in the middle chaps, not 320k (hth)
Report R0ykeane January 14, 2010 4:30 PM GMT
C8, yes i hope so. that is what will keep the game profitable.
Report C8 January 14, 2010 4:32 PM GMT
I agree.
By why u making such a big deal about nothing?
Report Helmuthian Folds January 14, 2010 4:32 PM GMT
Roy,

I thought this was a fishing thread at 1st but the fact that it isn't makes you look a tad silly.

Shoving AA there makes it look like anything but AA and is a move I have and would use again, most are calling with any Ace or any pair or any two paint most of the time so the move is not only legitimate but a very good move. The fact that you would rather think he can see your cards rather than admit he completely outplayed and out thought you is just proof of why you probably lose at poker!
Report FFsmd January 14, 2010 4:41 PM GMT
Lets try this again as at the very least I think you are trying. Your maths is okish but have a think son. If you are 'profitably' pushing any 2 every 2nd/3rd orbit then any good player swiftly adjusts and you will get caught very very quickly. Maths is only part of the issue here. You are not the sharpest if you think a player of my calibre would sit there getting shoved on any 2 every 2nd orbit until i got ace king.

If we have shoved on you for a few orbits then AA is perfect to shove now,If we havent but now were faced with you sat with 17bbs then by the time you adjust and get a hand that can call an adjusted range you no longer have 17bbs but a stack size more likerly to call so our ranges tighten,Because its profitable to put our *****in your face with any2 does not mean we have to do it every time.As for your line , player of your calibre, This post it appears your level of understanding has been clouded by your insistance that he can see your cards, dont get me wrong this is not in my mind imposiable but highly unlikerly,and his shove does not add much credibillity to it.
Report R0ykeane January 14, 2010 4:54 PM GMT


Helmuthian Folds 14 Jan 17:32
Roy,

I thought this was a fishing thread at 1st but the fact that it isn't makes you look a tad silly.

Shoving AA there makes it look like anything but AA and is a move I have and would use again, most are calling with any Ace


Even if this were true which im not sure of i can fold aj/aq here.... pray tell me the stats for how often the bb with have an ace when you have AA in the sb 4 handed.

Also tell me how often he has a pocket pair. Then we can contiue
Report R0ykeane January 14, 2010 5:02 PM GMT
If we have shoved on you for a few orbits then AA is perfect to shove now,If we havent but now were faced with you sat with 17bbs then by the time you adjust and get a hand that can call an adjusted range you no longer have 17bbs but a stack size more likerly to call so our ranges tighten,Because its profitable to put our *****in your face with any2 does not mean we have to do it every time.As for your line , player of your calibre, This post it appears your level of understanding has been clouded by your insistance that he can see your cards, dont get me wrong this is not in my mind imposiable but highly unlikerly,and his shove does not add much credibillity to it.

1st sentence we can agree.

The remainder is debatable. The is only 32k in the middle. No need to be shoving 63 here. You are telling me the best line is shoving 63 blinds as they are? Tighten your range?? lol, To what J2?? Ludicrous.

Just written off again. If they dont get back to me within 2 hours I'll get someone on livesupport and speak to their manager. This is not how you treat clients. I for one wont be playing on said site until the matter is investigated
Report Waheyyyy January 14, 2010 5:10 PM GMT
R0ykeane 14 Jan 17:25

This was a stand alone play from the vilan. Did nothing like this before or after. Ergo sum it made no sense whatsoever. Unless he could see my cards.....



So if he can see your cards, why did he not do it before or after when he 'knows' you're holding utter junk and can't call?
Report chop180 January 14, 2010 5:27 PM GMT
[x] Thread of 2010 imho :D
Report R0ykeane January 14, 2010 6:12 PM GMT
Waheyyyy 14 Jan 18:10

So if he can see your cards, why did he not do it before or after when he 'knows' you're holding utter junk and can't call?


Yeah tbf this is the one hole in my theory. Which is why im starting to think he could only see it in that hand. Maybe some sort of glitch or maybe he got the information at a key time from his insider. I mean that pot gave him over a million *****i think and the next best 3 handed was about what 350k??. I mean no matter how bad this guy is he should be taking it home from there.
Report seamushan January 14, 2010 6:14 PM GMT
Yes he could see your AK, the site is out to get you blah blah. You were completely outplayed by a superb push with the AA which totally disguised his hand to a one dimensional player like you.
Have some hot milk son then suck on a soother it might help you to relax a little and then reflect on your game.
Report Jim Hensen January 14, 2010 6:15 PM GMT
nice haul Roy.
Report R0ykeane January 14, 2010 6:16 PM GMT
Superb push :^0


Next.
Report Yair Marx January 14, 2010 6:21 PM GMT
You are not the sharpest if you think a player of my calibre...

Lol please stop Roy, enough already! :D
Report seamushan January 14, 2010 6:27 PM GMT
He got your *****didnt he, you didnt put him on aa or kk he got what he wanted and put on the losers pile. Your obviously only playing the game a few years son you have alot to learn
Report R0ykeane January 14, 2010 6:31 PM GMT
You are a results orientated mug, which is the 1st sign of a bad player. Cant you see the only reason he got my *****was because of a situation that was so rare?? Its a poor play 99% of the time.

Still no one can tell me the chances of being dealt AK 4 handed when someone else has AA. I wonder why.

Anyhow, ive said my piece. I will update you on any correspondence with said site. Not even sure why I am protecting them but i dont want to disgrace their name without further proof.

Thanks to those who gave some input however misguided in some cases
Report The Ichtyologist January 14, 2010 6:37 PM GMT
It's scandalous that you've been **ed in such a manner.

Is this what you want to hear?
Report R0ykeane January 14, 2010 6:44 PM GMT
Well to acknowledge there is something strange going on here and worth chasing will do. seriously how else do you explain it? Im percieved as tight and the guy does this with the single best hand in poker when he in all likelyhood will not get a better hand for the remainder of the tournie. If i fold this guy does not win the tournie. worst player at table (nap)
Report Sammy LayThis Jr January 14, 2010 6:47 PM GMT
Why hasn't Chipfire posted some of his badbeats on this thread. Is he ill?
Report jamesbeckton. January 14, 2010 6:50 PM GMT
this must be a fishing expedition
Report The Ichtyologist January 14, 2010 6:54 PM GMT
seriously how else do you explain it?

There's a whole host of more logical and realistic explanations posted above.
Report Mandylou January 14, 2010 6:57 PM GMT
R0ykeane 14 Jan 19:31


You are a results orientated mug, which is the 1st sign of a bad player. Cant you see the only reason he got my *****was because of a situation that was so rare?? Its a poor play 99% of the time.


not quite true , you will call with virtually any pocket pair and AK possibley even AQ AJ ?
Report yer ma January 14, 2010 7:00 PM GMT
This thread makes you feel so much better about your abilities and sanity.

I particularly like the 'its a poor play 99% of the time'. But like every other person on this thread bar the OP...I'm a losing mug.
Report Jim Hensen January 14, 2010 7:00 PM GMT
of course it is Jamie.

Note the forum was only posted with new threads by unknowns between 23:30 and 00:30, and now as we approach 100 posts R0y has decided to call it a day. ;-)

A fisherman of this caliber can be given some credit imo.
Report R0ykeane January 14, 2010 7:01 PM GMT
Mandylou stop fishing mate.

AJ i pass, Aq i bank and prob pass.

Any pocket pair lol, give over.


AK, QQ+ call

JJ- Timebank and prob call

TT- Fold it

Fine margins friend
Report Jim Hensen January 14, 2010 7:02 PM GMT
I liked the, "if you think I am sitting here waiting for AK to call him with then your a mug", followed by "it is a poor play 99% of the time"...... Son.

:-)
Report R0ykeane January 14, 2010 7:05 PM GMT
Note the forum was only posted with new threads by unknowns between 23:30 and 00:30,

Please explain, I am lost yiu strange un.
Report Jim Hensen January 14, 2010 7:07 PM GMT
lol nice try.
Report Jim Royle January 14, 2010 7:13 PM GMT
I have serious concerns that if the relevant European Union authorities get wind of this thread and the size of the haul it can only have a major detrimental effect on future fishing quotas and will result in dire consequences for the prospects of the whole British Trawling Industry.
Report Mandylou January 14, 2010 7:14 PM GMT
fold tens but call with AK o/s ?
so even with your range of KK AKs AKos AQs AQos (poss) JJ thats at least six hands not the miracle you made out
seen this play loads of time to make it hardly worth starting a thread about so i agrre with others you have to be fishing
Report "M" January 14, 2010 7:15 PM GMT
AJ i pass, Aq i bank and prob pass.

Any pocket pair lol, give over.


Nit, IMO
Report Jim Hensen January 14, 2010 7:17 PM GMT
On the contrary, the quota systems have sent this fisherman this way since the stocks have been depleted over on football. This boy has done good imo.
Report R0ykeane January 14, 2010 7:26 PM GMT



Mandylou 14 Jan 20:14
fold tens but call with AK o/s ?
so even with your range of KK AKs AKos AQs AQos (poss) JJ thats at least six hands not the miracle you made out
seen this play loads of time to make it hardly worth starting a thread about so i agrre with others you have to be fishing


FFS. Am i dealing with morons here? I see no one has still ans my question about the likelyhood of being dealt AK when someone else has AA 4 handed!!!

Part of the reason I go with AK and fold TT is that with AK its that more less likely he has aces or kings. And I am not dominated.

Even with my range what are the odds i hold any of those when he shoves AA!! FFS guys this isnt hard.
Report Jim Royle January 14, 2010 7:30 PM GMT
Before we know it the Spanish fleet will be all over this forum posting under apparently British user names... :|
Report Jim Hensen January 14, 2010 7:45 PM GMT
Juan can hope
Report "M" January 14, 2010 7:48 PM GMT
The fact there are 2 others in the hand is not relevant to the calculation because you don't know what they had. Probability you would have AK is (2/50 x 4/49) + (4/50 * 2/49)

Just add a note to the player about using a donk shove with AA. As others have said, this is a standard move that can be used to solicit a donk call.
Report R0ykeane January 14, 2010 7:55 PM GMT
'M' what do you need to call in this spot please
Report Jim Hensen January 14, 2010 7:56 PM GMT
your overdoing it now R0y.
Report Dooberama January 14, 2010 8:09 PM GMT
When was inbreeding made legal again?
Report "M" January 14, 2010 8:11 PM GMT
I have played mostly Omaha and Omaha8 for the last 2 years, but 8s or 9s might be enough for me. In a similar situation playing live last week, I had KK and called a preflop raiser who had A10. Obviously, he hit a FH 10s & 8s. Sh1t happens.
Report yer ma January 14, 2010 8:23 PM GMT
I very much hope you scanned the place for hidden camera or table peep holes 'M'. The chances of getting your KKs smashed was infinitesticle
Report "M" January 14, 2010 8:26 PM GMT
infinitesticle

nice new word
Report WhatD'YouThinkOfThoseApplles January 14, 2010 8:45 PM GMT
poogling is my new word

its when you are sat down on the shiitter, doing what comes naturally, and get bored so pull out the phone and check something out on google

hence the poogle!!!!
Report WhatD'YouThinkOfThoseApplles January 14, 2010 8:46 PM GMT
ok, just read that

good word, but the explanation wasnt needed
Report seamushan January 14, 2010 8:54 PM GMT
You lost son, your the mug you think you know it all, but know very little. Your playing a few years, barely off your mothers breast and out of the nappy, and now you cant take being outplayed get over it son...
Report chipfire227 January 14, 2010 9:31 PM GMT
Sammy LayThis Jr 14 Jan 19:47

Why hasn't Chipfire posted some of his badbeats on this thread. Is he ill?


after the overwhelming evidence presented that the game is rigged, as i have long suspected, i have given the game up.

the super users are even playing $8 super turbos now.


the games finished. :-(
Report R0ykeane January 14, 2010 10:57 PM GMT
wtf is a super user ffs
Report seamushan January 15, 2010 12:27 AM GMT
If you were playing more then 3yrs you'd know what a superuser is...
Report Blue and White army January 15, 2010 12:38 AM GMT
A fine haul.......wp that man :^0
Report flatliner January 15, 2010 2:34 AM GMT
Hobby, I know f.all about f.all........but thread is class, even I can understand what people are calling down lol.
Report chipfire227 January 15, 2010 7:25 AM GMT
R0ykeane 14 Jan 23:57
wtf is a super user ffs


are you for real ? there are superusers now. not only can they see your hole cards, they can see what cards will be dealt in advance.

this was revealed by punterz in his recent blog, along with overwhelming evidence that they exist.

what was once considered the delusional rambling of crack addled conspiracy theorists, is now accepted wisdom.

nobody who has posted on this thread, and i mean nobody, apart from you and me, actually exists. the user names were created by a man called terry, as were the posts. he is a former superuser now employed by ibas. a poacher turned gamekeeper if you will. he is trying to brainwash you into thinking poker isnt rigged. do not fall for it.

just by posting this i have put my life, and the lives of my family in danger. the superusers are everywhere. they are working on a code that will crack the chip and pin system and bring the banking world crashing to its knees.

again.

keep fighting the good fight roy. keep fighting the good fight.
Report R0ykeane January 15, 2010 8:57 AM GMT
^ Fox mulder? :0
Report stu January 15, 2010 10:15 AM GMT
Haven't read whole thread, but has anyone else other than Roy/Patience agreed that shoving with the AA here is strange?
Report evski January 15, 2010 10:55 AM GMT
Why is shoving with AA strange? I would have thought it a good way to make your hand look weaker than it is, in the hope the only remaining player has something big. He did, it worked.

btw, I only started playing a few weeks ago and have only read a little on the subject of poker so please correct me.
Report R0ykeane January 15, 2010 1:15 PM GMT
Deep breath....sigh.....ok. God give me strength.....

Levels are 15mins. You have not overshoved all in with the bb before, nor has he reshoved you. All fairly peaceful loving stuff. Odd raise call, nothing seemingly out of line from either party.

We are 4 handed. Top prize is about $3.3k, 4th is $911.

You have just doubled after calling a large raise and hitting a set of twos.

Very next hand It is folded to you in the SB. You have the best hand in poker. You are unlikely to see said hand again.

There is only 32 k in the middle and the BB is not in desperate shape and has circa 340k?? Something like that. He has shown himself to be tight aggressive.

Pray tell what on average is your best line in terms of extracting value from this hand should it be played over 1000 times?

Given you have no history of this (with a smaller stack and the blinds the same) to now do it with a bigger stack and the same blinds reeks. The only way you get action is if the bb has a premium.

Only way you play AA like this in the above spot with the above history is if you know what he bb has.
Report jamesbeckton. January 15, 2010 1:20 PM GMT
maybe they though oh I have got aa, I like this hand. Let's go all in and hope they call.
Report stu January 15, 2010 1:26 PM GMT
Roy - it was a 'donkerment' though. I've seen people go all-in with 8-2 offsuit and get called by Q7. So, is it that surprising that he was hoping for a call (and thus win maximum with his aces)?

Plus, if he only picks up the blinds, at least he hasn't been suckered by someone hitting a set/2pair on the flop...
Report R0ykeane January 15, 2010 1:26 PM GMT
^ Yes james... very astute thought process. I assume you are putting yourself in the villians shoes not something someone as shrewd as you would do.

New guy, just dont do it son. Raise or limp your best line here unless you have been shoving on the geezer a few times before in which case you've gone a bit early but stick with it now.

Peace, love and respect.
Report R0ykeane January 15, 2010 1:30 PM GMT


stu 15 Jan 14:26
Roy - it was a 'donkerment' though. I've seen people go all-in with 8-2 offsuit and get called by Q7. So, is it that surprising that he was hoping for a call (and thus win maximum with his aces)?

Plus, if he only picks up the blinds, at least he hasn't been suckered by someone hitting a set/2pair on the flop...



1 a 20 dollar rebuy is not a dddddddddonkament
2. The money in the middle really aint enough you to warrant pushing any 2
3. Read my post you cabbages clown, he's only getting a call should i have a top hand given how ive been playing.
4. There is not enough in the middle to feel good about just picking up the blinds with aa 4 handed.
5. worrying about getting sucked out upon is a fish trait. Good players will always get more suckie suckie but you have to keep putting yourself in those spots because in the LR.....
Report Mandylou January 15, 2010 2:11 PM GMT
R0ykeane 15 Jan 14:14


Deep breath....sigh.....ok. God give me strength.....

Levels are 15mins. You have not overshoved all in with the bb before, nor has he reshoved you. All fairly peaceful loving stuff. Odd raise call, nothing seemingly out of line from either party.

We are 4 handed. Top prize is about $3.3k, 4th is $911.

You have just doubled after calling a large raise and hitting a set of twos.

Very next hand It is folded to you in the SB. You have the best hand in poker. You are unlikely to see said hand again.

There is only 32 k in the middle and the BB is not in desperate shape and has circa 340k?? Something like that. He has shown himself to be tight aggressive.

Pray tell what on average is your best line in terms of extracting value from this hand should it be played over 1000 times?

Given you have no history of this (with a smaller stack and the blinds the same) to now do it with a bigger stack and the same blinds reeks. The only way you get action is if the bb has a premium.

Only way you play AA like this in the above spot with the above history is if you know what he bb has.




and bearing all that in mind you still call for your tourney life pre flop against the chip leader with ace high - when hitting the call button ,what exactly did you think he was pushing with and why did you call ?
Report evski January 15, 2010 2:41 PM GMT

R0ykeane 15 Jan 14:26

New guy, just dont do it son. Raise or limp your best line here


I've read only two books, and seen a few instructional videos. Whilst what you are saying has an element of truth to it, every bit of literature I've read so far stresses the importance of ,mixing up your play.
Honestly, wtf would you be risking everything for on an AK against the big stack? it's a gamble. Even if he'd had 66 you'd have lost.
Report yer ma January 15, 2010 2:45 PM GMT
Owned (correctly) by a newbie.
Report FFsmd January 15, 2010 3:42 PM GMT
Roy why dont you just settle it, instead of continuing to just state AA never pushes here so he must be able to see my cards,post the rest of the hands he played, if he can see cards it will obv.
Report R0ykeane January 15, 2010 4:02 PM GMT
evski 15 Jan 15:41

I've read only two books, and seen a few instructional videos. Whilst what you are saying has an element of truth to it, every bit of literature I've read so far stresses the importance of ,mixing up your play.
Honestly, wtf would you be risking everything for on an AK against the big stack? it's a gamble. Even if he'd had 66 you'd have lost.

Come back when you've read some more. You are looking at this ALL wrong.

The only two hands I dont want to see here are Aces and Kings. And even kings I've a 1 in 3 chance to get a stack that wins me the tournie.

HTH
Report R0ykeane January 15, 2010 4:03 PM GMT

FFsmd 15 Jan 16:42
Roy why dont you just settle it, instead of continuing to just state AA never pushes here so he must be able to see my cards,post the rest of the hands he played, if he can see cards it will obv.


If you read the thread you will find i addressed this. Beggers belief the amount of support this ridiculous move has garnered
Report jamesbeckton. January 15, 2010 4:11 PM GMT
you back silly assumptions like 'he doesn't win the tournament if he only wins a small pot with aa' and if I win here I win the tournament'. Neither are true.
Report FFsmd January 15, 2010 4:12 PM GMT
If you read the thread you will find i addressed this.

If i read the whole thread i would have lock jaw by now from the yawning.
Report jinxy January 15, 2010 4:14 PM GMT
Well i have only ever played betfair poker until today . Just joined pokerstars , lol , and not before time !!!
I read a thread on bots on this forum last week , enough to make me leave this site , lol . Didn`t know they existed lol , no wonder some players never got involved in any chat lol !!
Gl , to all @ betfair poker , will miss you ! ,lol
Report stu January 15, 2010 4:16 PM GMT
A move that is either guaranteed to win the blinds and keep him secure in his tournament position, or take down a monster pot is not what I would call 'ridiculous'.
Report R0ykeane January 15, 2010 4:23 PM GMT
Keep studying stu. keep studying. Revisit this thread in months to come, Your last post was thrash
Report richpickns January 15, 2010 4:48 PM GMT
aa vv kk heads up is not uncommon so ak vv aa is certainly not uncommom

if i makes you feel any better this hand popped up LIVE last hand in a £100 freezeout i played in

Player 1 - allin 9s9h
Play 2 - call AsQd

Flop Kd10d9c
Turn Jd
River Ad

Player 2 runner runnered a royal flush when player 1 flopped a set

I also witnessed a queen high straight flush beat a 10 high straight flush in a cash game LIVE two weeks ago

it happens and its called probability - people win the lottery as staggering odds and instances like this are no different
Report R0ykeane January 15, 2010 5:05 PM GMT
please read the thread before posting. No complaints vis a vi cards dealt
Report stu January 15, 2010 5:12 PM GMT
Your last post was thrash

Metal?

Seriously though, you're starting to look very silly, throwing insults around while no-one agrees with you on a huge thread.
Report chop180 January 15, 2010 5:41 PM GMT
Good grief, they continue to leap into the net like lemmings off a cliff.....
Report richpickns January 15, 2010 6:11 PM GMT
ok i read the post and u seem to think that a player would only ever go allin with AA if he knows the other play has a premium hand and cannot fold it?

sorry but that is absurd - plenty of players overbet AA like this to represent a lower pait and elicit calls from premium hands - and it worked perfectly against you!

can i ask why u called when u have over 30 big blinds?
Report R0ykeane January 15, 2010 6:19 PM GMT
you idiot. I only call because i have Ak. Anything less and i snap fold so his ploy to look weaker backfires massively.

I hold AK which makes it less likely he has AA coupled with the massive overshove its a call

The point is he only shoves this hand if he knows i cant fold. Not hard to follow
Report richpickns January 15, 2010 6:26 PM GMT
oh dear another loony has escaped
Report R0ykeane January 15, 2010 6:28 PM GMT
where are you??
Report "M" January 15, 2010 7:56 PM GMT
The point is he only shoves this hand if he knows i cant fold.

LOLOLOOLOLOLOLL.

Do you think his notes about you say "Calling Station"
Report R0ykeane January 16, 2010 3:45 AM GMT
no 'm' i think they say nit, which makes the shove horrible. get a grip you clown/fish fool
Report M42Orion January 16, 2010 7:42 AM GMT
look at this session - look at callandlose player. I do not know what is is but it's not a luck or variance. 5bi up before one 18 min session on PLO.

***** Betfair Poker Hand History for Game 636013329 *****
PL $0.05/$0.10 Omaha - Friday, January 15, 23:26:51 GMT 2010
Table Death 02 6-max (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of active players : 6
Seat 1: bigjok ( $1.95 )
Seat 2: callandlose ( $12.96 )
Seat 3: keanosdog ( $10 )
Seat 4: klemmma ( $3.82 )
Seat 5: Fibonazi ( $3.05 )
Seat 6: VooDooBoss ( $17.76 )
VooDooBoss posts small blind [$0.05]
bigjok posts big blind [$0.10]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to VooDooBoss [ Th, Jh, Qh, Td ]
callandlose calls [$0.10]
keanosdog folds
klemmma calls [$0.10]
Fibonazi raises to [$0.55]
VooDooBoss calls [$0.50]
bigjok raises to [$1]
callandlose calls [$0.90]
klemmma folds
Fibonazi goes all-in
Fibonazi raises to [$3.05]
VooDooBoss folds
bigjok calls [$0.95]
bigjok goes all-in
callandlose calls [$2.05]
** Showdown **
bigjok shows [ 4s, Ac, 2c, Ah ]
callandlose shows [ 9c, Jd, 5c, Js ]
Fibonazi shows [ 3h, 8d, Ad, As ]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Kc, Qs, 9h ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7d ]
** Dealing River ** [ Ts ]
** Hand Conclusion **
callandlose wins $2.20 from side pot #1 with a straight, King to Nine
callandlose wins $6.07 from main pot with a straight, King to Nine
************ Game 636013329 ends ************

***** Betfair Poker Hand History for Game 636014704 *****
PL $0.05/$0.10 Omaha - Friday, January 15, 23:29:21 GMT 2010
Table Death 02 6-max (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of active players : 5
Seat 1: bigjok ( $0.11 )
Seat 2: callandlose ( $17.78 )
Seat 3: keanosdog ( $9.90 )
Seat 4: klemmma ( $7.50 )
Seat 5: ykos ( $0 )
Seat 6: VooDooBoss ( $16.86 )
keanosdog posts small blind [$0.05]
klemmma posts big blind [$0.10]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to VooDooBoss [ 9h, Js, Qh, Qd ]
VooDooBoss raises to [$0.20]
bigjok calls [$0.11]
bigjok goes all-in
callandlose calls [$0.20]
keanosdog calls [$0.15]
klemmma calls [$0.10]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5d, 2c, 4d ]
keanosdog checks
klemmma checks
VooDooBoss checks
callandlose bets [$0.91]
keanosdog folds
klemmma folds
VooDooBoss folds
Returning uncalled bet [$0.91] to callandlose
** Showdown **
bigjok shows [ Kd, Jc, Qc, Jh ]
callandlose shows [ 3h, Td, 2d, As ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jd ]
** Dealing River ** [ 6h ]
** Hand Conclusion **
callandlose wins $0.36 from side pot #1 with a Flush
callandlose wins $0.51 from main pot with a Flush
************ Game 636014704 ends ************

***** Betfair Poker Hand History for Game 636015264 *****
PL $0.05/$0.10 Omaha - Friday, January 15, 23:30:19 GMT 2010
Table Death 02 6-max (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of active players : 6
Seat 1: bigjok ( $2.39 )
Seat 2: callandlose ( $18.45 )
Seat 3: keanosdog ( $9.70 )
Seat 4: klemmma ( $7.30 )
Seat 5: ykos ( $10 )
Seat 6: VooDooBoss ( $16.66 )
klemmma posts small blind [$0.05]
ykos posts big blind [$0.10]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to VooDooBoss [ 5d, 8d, 5h, 6d ]
VooDooBoss calls [$0.10]
bigjok calls [$0.10]
callandlose calls [$0.10]
keanosdog folds
klemmma calls [$0.05]
ykos checks
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4h, 5c, Qh ]
klemmma bets [$0.37]
ykos folds
VooDooBoss calls [$0.37]
bigjok folds
callandlose calls [$0.37]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9h ]
klemmma checks
VooDooBoss checks
callandlose checks
** Dealing River ** [ 9d ]
klemmma bets [$1.20]
VooDooBoss calls [$1.20]
callandlose raises to [$6.41]
klemmma goes all-in
klemmma raises to [$6.83]
VooDooBoss folds
callandlose calls [$0.42]
** Showdown **
callandlose shows [ 3h, 5s, 6s, 9c ] full house, Nines full of Fives
klemmma shows [ Th, 4d, Qd, 4s ] full house, Fours full of Nines
** Hand Conclusion **
callandlose wins $15.65 from main pot with full house, Nines full of Fives
************ Game 636015264 ends ************
***** Betfair Poker Hand History for Game 636015986 *****
PL $0.05/$0.10 Omaha - Friday, January 15, 23:31:34 GMT 2010
Table Death 02 6-max (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of active players : 5
Seat 1: bigjok ( $2.40 )
Seat 2: callandlose ( $26.80 )
Seat 3: keanosdog ( $9.70 )
Seat 5: ykos ( $9.90 )
Seat 6: VooDooBoss ( $14.99 )
ykos posts small blind [$0.05]
VooDooBoss posts big blind [$0.10]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to VooDooBoss [ Qd, Th, 2d, 9s ]
bigjok folds
callandlose calls [$0.10]
keanosdog calls [$0.10]
ykos calls [$0.05]
VooDooBoss checks
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8h, Ah, 3d ]
ykos checks
VooDooBoss checks
callandlose checks
keanosdog checks
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kc ]
ykos bets [$0.10]
VooDooBoss folds
callandlose calls [$0.10]
keanosdog calls [$0.10]
** Dealing River ** [ 7s ]
ykos bets [$0.10]
callandlose calls [$0.10]
keanosdog folds
** Showdown **
ykos shows [ 9c, Kd, 7h, 8s ] two pair, Kings and Eights
callandlose shows [ 4d, Ac, 7c, 5c ] two pair, Aces and Sevens
** Hand Conclusion **
callandlose wins $0.86 from main pot with two pair, Aces and Sevens
************ Game 636015986 ends ************

***** Betfair Poker Hand History for Game 636017810 *****
PL $0.05/$0.10 Omaha - Friday, January 15, 23:34:43 GMT 2010
Table Death 02 6-max (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of active players : 5
Seat 1: bigjok ( $4.09 )
Seat 2: callandlose ( $27.16 )
Seat 3: keanosdog ( $10 )
Seat 4: Hugeplums ( $0 )
Seat 5: ykos ( $9.50 )
Seat 6: VooDooBoss ( $14.69 )
callandlose posts small blind [$0.05]
keanosdog posts big blind [$0.10]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to VooDooBoss [ 4h, 9c, 5s, Jd ]
ykos folds
VooDooBoss calls [$0.10]
bigjok calls [$0.10]
callandlose raises to [$0.41]
keanosdog folds
VooDooBoss calls [$0.31]
bigjok calls [$0.31]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qd, 7s, 2c ]
callandlose checks
VooDooBoss checks
bigjok bets [$1.33]
callandlose calls [$1.33]
VooDooBoss folds
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7d ]
callandlose checks
bigjok goes all-in
bigjok bets [$2.35]
callandlose calls [$2.35]
** Showdown **
bigjok shows [ Js, Kd, Qc, Ah ]
callandlose shows [ Ac, 8s, Ad, Ks ]
** Dealing River ** [ Kh ]
** Hand Conclusion **
callandlose wins $8.26 from main pot with two pair, Aces and Sevens
************ Game 636017810 ends ************

***** Betfair Poker Hand History for Game 636022925 *****
PL $0.05/$0.10 Omaha - Friday, January 15, 23:43:39 GMT 2010
Table Death 02 6-max (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of active players : 6
Seat 1: canelo ( $5 )
Seat 2: callandlose ( $28.54 )
Seat 3: keanosdog ( $9.40 )
Seat 4: Hugeplums ( $32.36 )
Seat 5: ykos ( $4.01 )
Seat 6: VooDooBoss ( $13.40 )
Hugeplums posts small blind [$0.05]
ykos posts big blind [$0.10]
canelo posts big blind [$0.10]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to VooDooBoss [ 7s, 6s, 7c, 4d ]
VooDooBoss raises to [$0.20]
canelo calls [$0.10]
callandlose calls [$0.20]
keanosdog folds
Hugeplums calls [$0.15]
ykos calls [$0.10]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2h, Td, 8h ]
Hugeplums checks
ykos bets [$0.10]
VooDooBoss calls [$0.10]
canelo calls [$0.10]
callandlose calls [$0.10]
Hugeplums calls [$0.10]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4s ]
Hugeplums checks
ykos bets [$0.10]
VooDooBoss calls [$0.10]
canelo calls [$0.10]
callandlose calls [$0.10]
Hugeplums calls [$0.10]
** Dealing River ** [ 8c ]
Hugeplums checks
ykos checks
VooDooBoss checks
canelo checks
callandlose bets [$2]
Hugeplums folds
ykos folds
VooDooBoss folds
canelo folds
Returning uncalled bet [$2] to callandlose
** Hand Conclusion **
callandlose wins $1.90 from main pot
************ Game 636022925 ends ************

***** Betfair Poker Hand History for Game 636023956 *****
PL $0.05/$0.10 Omaha - Friday, January 15, 23:45:26 GMT 2010
Table Death 02 6-max (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of active players : 6
Seat 1: canelo ( $4.60 )
Seat 2: callandlose ( $30.04 )
Seat 3: keanosdog ( $9.40 )
Seat 4: Hugeplums ( $31.96 )
Seat 5: ykos ( $3.61 )
Seat 6: VooDooBoss ( $13 )
ykos posts small blind [$0.05]
VooDooBoss posts big blind [$0.10]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to VooDooBoss [ 7s, 9h, 5d, 4d ]
canelo calls [$0.10]
callandlose calls [$0.10]
keanosdog raises to [$0.55]
Hugeplums folds
ykos folds
VooDooBoss calls [$0.45]
canelo calls [$0.45]
callandlose calls [$0.45]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3s, Qc, 9s ]
VooDooBoss checks
canelo checks
callandlose bets [$2.25]
keanosdog calls [$2.25]
VooDooBoss folds
canelo calls [$2.25]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4c ]
canelo checks
callandlose bets [$9]
keanosdog calls [$6.60]
keanosdog goes all-in
canelo folds
Returning uncalled bet [$2.40] to callandlose
** Showdown **
callandlose shows [ 3c, 8c, 4s, 6s ]
keanosdog shows [ Ah, Js, As, 2d ]
** Dealing River ** [ 2c ]
** Hand Conclusion **
callandlose wins $21.09 from main pot with a Flush
************ Game 636023956 ends ************
***** Betfair Poker Hand History for Game 636024696 *****
PL $0.05/$0.10 Omaha - Friday, January 15, 23:46:44 GMT 2010
Table Death 02 6-max (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of active players : 5
Seat 1: canelo ( $1.80 )
Seat 2: callandlose ( $41.73 )
Seat 3: keanosdog ( $0 )
Seat 4: Hugeplums ( $31.96 )
Seat 5: ykos ( $3.56 )
Seat 6: VooDooBoss ( $12.45 )
VooDooBoss posts small blind [$0.05]
canelo posts big blind [$0.10]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to VooDooBoss [ Ah, Qc, 7s, 9c ]
callandlose calls [$0.10]
Hugeplums folds
ykos calls [$0.10]
VooDooBoss calls [$0.05]
canelo raises to [$0.50]
callandlose calls [$0.40]
ykos calls [$0.40]
VooDooBoss calls [$0.40]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8s, Jc, 6s ]
VooDooBoss checks
canelo checks
callandlose checks
ykos bets [$2]
VooDooBoss calls [$2]
canelo folds
callandlose calls [$2]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5h ]
VooDooBoss checks
callandlose checks
ykos checks
** Dealing River ** [ 6c ]
VooDooBoss checks
callandlose bets [$4]
ykos calls [$1.06]
ykos goes all-in
VooDooBoss calls [$4]
** Showdown **
callandlose shows [ 5c, 6d, Js, Ac ] full house, Sixes full of Jacks
ykos mucks [ 8c, As, 7h, 7d ]
VooDooBoss mucks [ Ah, Qc, 7s, 9c ]
** Hand Conclusion **
callandlose wins $5.88 from side pot #1 with full house, Sixes full of Jacks
callandlose wins $10.33 from main pot with full house, Sixes full of Jacks
************ Game 636024696 ends ************

***** Betfair Poker Hand History for Game 636026196 *****
PL $0.05/$0.10 Omaha - Friday, January 15, 23:49:20 GMT 2010
Table Death 02 6-max (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of active players : 6
Seat 1: canelo ( $1.67 )
Seat 2: callandlose ( $51.24 )
Seat 3: keanosdog ( $10 )
Seat 4: Hugeplums ( $31.96 )
Seat 5: ykos ( $5 )
Seat 6: VooDooBoss ( $5.75 )
callandlose posts small blind [$0.05]
keanosdog posts big blind [$0.10]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to VooDooBoss [ 4s, Ac, 4h, 5c ]
Hugeplums folds
ykos calls [$0.10]
VooDooBoss raises to [$0.45]
canelo calls [$0.45]
callandlose calls [$0.40]
keanosdog folds
ykos calls [$0.35]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ks, Js, Jh ]
callandlose checks
ykos checks
VooDooBoss checks
canelo checks
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7s ]
callandlose checks
ykos checks
VooDooBoss checks
canelo checks
** Dealing River ** [ 6c ]
callandlose bets [$0.80]
ykos folds
VooDooBoss folds
canelo folds
Returning uncalled bet [$0.80] to callandlose
** Hand Conclusion **
callandlose wins $1.81 from main pot
************ Game 636026196 ends ************
Report there's only 1 f in Oxford January 16, 2010 9:30 AM GMT
Amusing thread.

I could never shove AA like that, 4 handed or otherwise.
Report R0ykeane January 16, 2010 10:33 AM GMT


there's only 1 f in Oxford 16 Jan 10:30
Amusing thread.

I could never shove AA like that, 4 handed or otherwise.


DEAR me i spy a brain cell. Amen brother. Are you an oxford graduate? Appear to be one of few with decent mass of functional grey matter
Report there's only 1 f in Oxford January 16, 2010 11:28 AM GMT
No, it's because I only play limit :)
Report Ovalman. January 16, 2010 12:16 PM GMT
I'm starting to like the shove assuming it was intentional and not a donk move.
Report Ghostbusters 2 January 16, 2010 4:30 PM GMT
amazing scenes

my favourite part is where, after calling him a superuser, you say he's a losing player according opr
Report Ghostbusters 2 January 16, 2010 4:32 PM GMT
*and then use that to back up your argument that he must be a superuser :D :D
Report davefu January 16, 2010 4:57 PM GMT
If you're driving down the motorway and your missus rings to say "watch out, there's a nutter driving the wrong way on the motorway", R0y would say" there's not one, there's hundreds of them!"

At least half a dozen good players have told you that sometimes people play hands differntly to how you would expect. Let that be the end of it.
Report stu January 17, 2010 9:32 AM GMT
If you're driving down the motorway and your missus rings to say "watch out, there's a nutter driving the wrong way on the motorway", R0y would say" there's not one, there's hundreds of them!"

:^0

Someone shoves with the strongest hand in poker - shock horror.
Report Mr Myxlplyx January 17, 2010 1:01 PM GMT
davefu 16 Jan 17:57
If you're driving down the motorway and your missus rings to say "watch out, there's a nutter driving the wrong way on the motorway", R0y would say" there's not one, there's hundreds of them!"

NO HE WOULDN'T

he would say ''that**t can see my satnav'' :)
Report R0ykeane January 18, 2010 1:59 PM GMT
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Full net :D
Report stu January 18, 2010 2:38 PM GMT
oh dear, not the old 'I'm now so embarrassed I'm going to pretend it was a fishing thread....' Give it up Roy!!
Report R0ykeane January 18, 2010 4:39 PM GMT
:^0


My fingers reek of small fish
Report "M" January 18, 2010 7:11 PM GMT
:)
Report R0ykeane January 18, 2010 8:07 PM GMT
Kudos to that jim hensen chap. He knew from the off.

had to give it the hard sell early on but after that twas easy peasy

Rigged :^0

MUGS.
Report Jim Hensen January 18, 2010 9:06 PM GMT
Of course I knew. see you at the tables.

Jim

PS - I play as Doeks111
Report R0ykeane January 19, 2010 12:57 AM GMT
rofl..... :^0

10/10

You dont do you??? :|
Report apieceofcake January 19, 2010 2:48 AM GMT
I was playing on here at 04.00am yesterday and I am pretty sure I witnessed Coluding or somebody playing as two players at the same table.

Player A loses a big pot, then next hand he raises 4x big b. Everyone else folds player B calls.

From memory, Flop was Ad, Kc, 2h

A bets pot and is called, Turn 6h
A bets pot and is called, River 3s

A goes all in, B calls

A shows AK, B shows J4?

Player B was big stack. this was on a 9 handed 2c/4c table.

Surely there is no earthly way this can be a legit play?

I left straight away so unfortunately I don't recall the names involved :(
Any way to check the history?
Report R0ykeane January 19, 2010 9:15 AM GMT
Sounds like chip dumping/money laundering. Id try and retrace your steps or look out for the names because betfair need to be informed. They wont stop.
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