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Table Table 993761 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 2: Doeks111 (813666)
Seat 4: Hero (362233)
Seat 7: ganjasx (276780)
Seat 8: dima358 (455321)
Doeks111 posts ante (500)
Hero posts ante (500)
ganjasx posts ante (500)
dima358 posts ante (500)
Doeks111 posts small blind (10000)
Hero posts big blind (20000)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Ac, Kh ]
ganjasx folds
dima358 folds
Doeks111 raises 803166 to 813166
Doeks111 is all-In.
Hero calls (341733)
Hero is all-In.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 9c, 7h, Th ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 9s ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 4d ]
Creating Main Pot with 725466.0 with Hero
** Summary **
Main Pot: 725466
Board: [ 9c 7h Th 9s 4d ]
Doeks111 balance 1176899, bet 813666, collected 1176899, net +363233 [ Ah As ] [ two pairs, aces and nines -- Ah,As,Th,9c,9s ]
Hero balance 0, lost 362233 [ Ac Kh ] [ a pair of nines -- Ac,Kh,Th,9c,9s ]
ganjasx balance 276280, lost 500 (folded)
dima358 balance 454821, lost 500 (folded)

The only way this can be explained is he could see my cards. Aces 4 handed played like that??? I have written to ibas. Is there a poker governing body I can report this to?

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By:
Lenny the Guvnor
When: 13 Jan 10 23:27
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Lenny the Guvnor
When: 13 Jan 10 23:27
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Lenny the Guvnor
When: 13 Jan 10 23:27
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By:
Lenny the Guvnor
When: 13 Jan 10 23:27
Thread of the year if you have written to IBAS. I expect them to shut the site down instantly
By:
Patience+ Discipline = Profits
When: 13 Jan 10 23:29
Are you seriously telling me you dont find that play very odd? When he shoves i said to myself you are kidding me... I call and dont like it but to see aces lol. Clearly could see my cards. No surprise he's just won the tournie.
By:
Mandylou
When: 13 Jan 10 23:35
i find this thread rather odd
By:
Mandylou
When: 13 Jan 10 23:35
i find this thread rather odd
By:
Patience+ Discipline = Profits
When: 13 Jan 10 23:41
As did I, very strange play
By:
yer ma
When: 13 Jan 10 23:42
biting satire or deranged - you decide
By:
Patience+ Discipline = Profits
When: 13 Jan 10 23:43
are you blind? why has no one commented on how the villain played aces 4 handed?
By:
Mandylou
When: 13 Jan 10 23:45
no and no one has commented on how someone with a forum name like patience + discipline calls of his stack with ace high either
By:
yer ma
When: 13 Jan 10 23:46
deranged it is then
By:
Patience+ Discipline = Profits
When: 13 Jan 10 23:52

Mandylou 14 Jan 00:45
no and no one has commented on how someone with a forum name like patience + discipline calls of his stack with ace high either


what sort of fish are you? cod?
By:
Mandylou
When: 14 Jan 10 00:06
no a pollock similar to you if you change a vowel
By:
Captain Eglefin
When: 14 Jan 10 01:23
Someone's been stitched up like a kipper there.
By:
scarlet1001
When: 14 Jan 10 06:55
Hand history says your best hand is A K T 9 9. Surely this is wrong?
By:
canaryboy
When: 14 Jan 10 06:57
i'm guessing his call was a miss click

hard lines

impatience + retardation = losses
By:
Patience+ Discipline = Profits
When: 14 Jan 10 08:17
I must be swiming with fishes here. Are you suggesting its a fold??? :^0

How does one play aces 4 handed?
By:
canaryboy
When: 14 Jan 10 08:31
and you had no fold equity either

just crazy
By:
Patience+ Discipline = Profits
When: 14 Jan 10 08:37
are you an r tard?
By:
Patience+ Discipline = Profits
When: 14 Jan 10 08:39
dis could easily be AQ
By:
canaryboy
When: 14 Jan 10 08:40
so basically you're seething because he outplayed you

nice one
By:
Patience+ Discipline = Profits
When: 14 Jan 10 08:43
lol outplayed?? I fold so many hands in this spot that outplaying doesnt come into it. Worst possible way to play AA 4 handed blind to blind with these stack sizes.............. unless you can see the hero's cards

please run along and let the adults take you fruitcake fish
By:
canaryboy
When: 14 Jan 10 08:49
you didn't play it like a hero did you

how about changing it to mug
By:
chipfire227
When: 14 Jan 10 08:49
loving the use of the word " hero " in the hand history. :-)
By:
canaryboy
When: 14 Jan 10 08:50
Mug calls (341733)
Mug is all-In.

:)
By:
JPJ
When: 14 Jan 10 08:59
I don't think he could see your cards as surely he wouldn't bet so much as to make you fold, knowing most players would fold there. I think that maybe he has a web cam set up as can actually see you.

;)
By:
Ovalman.
When: 14 Jan 10 09:00
What stakes is this please?

He's played it like he has a marginal like 99, 1010, JJ, AK or AQ.

At best you are hoping for a coinflip so its a fold from me. I'd maybe try and fish his hand in the chat box. If he's continually all in then I would maybe have a pop with AK but if it was out of character then its an easy fold.

Take a note though as he's spaffing off some serious *****if he continually plays AA like this.

And your ridiculous statement that its rigged proves that you have a lot to learn. You were behind pre and you were behind on the river, you were never ahead at any stage yet you make it sound like some terrible bad beat.
By:
Ovalman.
When: 14 Jan 10 09:05
read the blinds wrong, you'd still 18 BB's. I'd rather be shoving with AKo than calling in this situation.
By:
Patience+ Discipline = Profits
When: 14 Jan 10 09:08
$22r ovalman. Obviously my friend we'd rather be shoving and it was the 1st such manouvre this jester had pulled but to suggest that the best we can hope for is a flip is R-Tarded.

However You redeem yourself by confronting the issue at hand. Playing aces this way 4 handed.

Only cod/haddock fold in this spot.
By:
Ovalman.
When: 14 Jan 10 09:29
but to suggest that the best we can hope for is a flip is R-Tarded.

You put him on AQo, how can you be so sure? If its 22 your still flipping. If its totally out of synch with his play then you have to think. Take a note and move on.
By:
Mandylou
When: 14 Jan 10 09:38
Patience+ Discipline = Profits 14 Jan 09:43


lol outplayed?? I fold so many hands in this spot that outplaying doesnt come into it. Worst possible way to play AA 4 handed blind to blind with these stack sizes

not if once every 4/5 times you get a call from someone with ace high it isnt
By:
Gowardo.
When: 14 Jan 10 09:42
"no a pollock similar to you if you change a vowel"

BWAHHAHAAHAHAHA
By:
Patience+ Discipline = Profits
When: 14 Jan 10 10:07
Ovalman. 14 Jan 10:29
but to suggest that the best we can hope for is a flip is R-Tarded.

You put him on AQo, how can you be so sure? If its 22 your still flipping. If its totally out of synch with his play then you have to think. Take a note and move on


Range of hands Ovalman, range of hands. Im discounting aces and kings here.

Large part of his range is poket pairs so yes flipping but also Aj, Aq and Ak form a decent part of his range which could be much domination.

Some R-tards might even do this with AT.
By:
Patience+ Discipline = Profits
When: 14 Jan 10 10:10

Mandylou 14 Jan 10:38
Patience+ Discipline = Profits 14 Jan 09:43


lol outplayed?? I fold so many hands in this spot that outplaying doesnt come into it. Worst possible way to play AA 4 handed blind to blind with these stack sizes

not if once every 4/5 times you get a call from someone with ace high it isnt


Can tell you are not the sharpest tool in the box.

Pray tell me the odds of someone else having an ace 4 handed when you are dealt AA fourhanded let alone AK.

4/5 times this gets a call? In your dreams my son.
By:
chipfire227
When: 14 Jan 10 10:18
the fact that you totally discount aa and kk from his shoving range is a good reason in itself to shove.

in addition if he shoves, you fold, and then he shows aa, it gives you plenty of food for thought in later hands.

to suggest the bloke could see your hole cards and that is why he shoved..... :-)
By:
Rum Tiddle
When: 14 Jan 10 10:26
It does seem a bit odd for a player to go all-in in this position with AA. But, even if he made a standard raise, you'd have re-raised. Same outcome really.
By:
Patience+ Discipline = Profits
When: 14 Jan 10 10:30
Had i folded which happens 95% of the time and the clown shows aces I would still call with AK next time out.
By:
Patience+ Discipline = Profits
When: 14 Jan 10 10:33

Rum Tiddle 14 Jan 11:26
It does seem a bit odd for a player to go all-in in this position with AA. But, even if he made a standard raise, you'd have re-raised. Same outcome really.




Now we are getting somewhere....this thread wouldnt exist if he raises, i reraise he jams or whatever.

But the way this hand was played makes me conclude he could see my hole cards. I have written to the website and I am awaiting their bog standard reply. But once I get ibas onside we will see what they say about it
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