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Semi Skimmed Milk
10 Jan 10 00:06
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Does anyone have any good articles on how to analyse and make the most of your HEM stats?

I only use a few of them and considering there are so many stats available it seems silly not to learn how to make the most of all of them.

Also, what are the ideal stats? I would really like someone to take a look at mine and advise on how I could play optimumly.
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Report Jim Hensen January 10, 2010 12:23 AM GMT
they have built in reports and tutorials, also some good vids about. never seen a site with a write up, I suppose cos HEM has done it already. you will probably get specifics, (ie more advanced), from 2+2 and HEM forums.
Report Soap January 10, 2010 12:36 AM GMT
crunners has numerous vids also if can get some1s log in
Report Semi Skimmed Milk January 10, 2010 12:37 AM GMT
ok cheers guys
Report aristonandon January 10, 2010 7:02 AM GMT
no such thing as perfect stats as poker is not a cracked game or a perfect science.

self analysis is important though and its more about finding leaks for me then adapting.

you can learn alot more from graph analysis if you put the right filters on. 10 minutes looking at the graphs and you can spot most peoples leaks.
Report garybet. January 10, 2010 8:36 AM GMT
http://archives1.t**lustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=ssplnlpoker&Number=4...
Report Semi Skimmed Milk January 10, 2010 4:45 PM GMT
Yep, I agree there isn't such thing as perfect stats as every game requires a different approach (although bb/100 is the best indication of success and I'm running at 11.77 over 40k on my new account which isn't a decent sample I know, and expect it to come down to around 6-7bb when i hit 100k hands which is acceptable). But what I mean is to plug my leaks, like calling OOP with small pocket pairs to people who will 100% fire in a cont bet yet it will be hard for me to get paid off against if I do hit my set and they don't have a decent hand too. I don't think HEM will be able to tell me this in a report of who I have to avoid this kind of situation with....will it...?

I really need to learn to use it to it's full potential and will read that article, cheers Gary.
Report aristonandon January 10, 2010 4:56 PM GMT
it will if you configure your hud correctly and understand how to use it yes.

knowing what one of your leaks is is a start and if you look in your HEM its very easy to find out how much that leak costs you per 1000 hands etc
Report Semi Skimmed Milk January 10, 2010 5:10 PM GMT
The only problem is I'm too lazy to research all myself I would rather pay someone to take a look and tell me :D
Report aristonandon January 10, 2010 5:12 PM GMT
lol how many hands do you have in your database? and how many hands do you play a day/week... u full time?
Report Semi Skimmed Milk January 10, 2010 5:22 PM GMT
I dont play full time - it depends how much work i have on, but when not busy I play approx 1500-2000 hand per day 5 times a week.

So between 30k and 40k per month.

Ive got a database on 5 different accounts I am guessing (as not at that pc) of around 250k. Purely a guess though, will check when i get home.

But those earlier days i was playing a lot tighter and i dont like my stats then. I think I've hit a reasonable level of proficiency now and would rather take my stats from the last few months since I've really worked on my game.
Report aristonandon January 10, 2010 5:44 PM GMT
cant do it tonight as its a busy night of week obviously but add me to msn russell cawley hot place or skype russ.cawley and i will give you some pointers in next day or two if u want.
Report Semi Skimmed Milk January 10, 2010 6:50 PM GMT
ok, cheers for that, but I might try work my way through that article tonight

Just to see if there is anything really obvious my basic stats are:

12.11bb/100 (not 11x I thought earlier)
VPIP 22.2
PFR 12.9
3Bet 5.5
WTSD 27.6
W$SD 54.6
Agg 1.74
Agg% 23.0

I am guessing VPIP is ok, but should PFR be a little higher? Although I'm a post flop player which will account for a lot of this as I do smallball a bit although I realise it does define my premium hands a little too much pre.

I think my Agg factor is a little low too?
Report Semi Skimmed Milk January 10, 2010 6:51 PM GMT
Oh, and silly question maybe, but how can I tell how many hands are in my database?
Report aristonandon January 10, 2010 6:53 PM GMT
agg very low. its ok being a post flop player but if u want to be that your vpip should be higher. if you vpip is 22 and your r is only 12 you are weak tight for me which is one of the least profitable ways to play.

without looking at stats clearly and using filters you cant tell much though so look through the article and look carefully at your pre flop raises.

the other important stats you need to look at are your cbet/turn cbet/ fold to cbet etc. if your a post flop player there isnt much point in looking at what are your preflop stats in isolation
Report Soap January 10, 2010 7:20 PM GMT
only stat that matters is $ made - hope this helps.
Report Soap January 10, 2010 7:22 PM GMT
You will have all these 2+2 telling you these x yz ideal stats then some one like Grundy comes along and blows them to pieces.
Report Soap January 10, 2010 7:23 PM GMT
plus on other end scale thay guy whom sortstacked the highest ft games that they all hate.
Report Ilovegreece January 10, 2010 9:12 PM GMT
90% of greeks have a vpip higher than 30
Report racing revenue January 11, 2010 7:11 AM GMT
calling aristonandon/anyone!!

I have just started using HEM stats and have a 90,000 hand sample and i am making a modest 3bb/100 although that increases to 6bb for january my stats are

vpip 19.5
pfr 15.8
agg 3.24
flop cbet 70%
turn c bet 40%
wtsd 30%
w$sd 52.7%
3bet% 6%
4bet% 2.4%
3bet call% 36.5%

when i put my stats through leakbuster i get a rating of 8.62 out of 10 but my biggest worry is my non showdown line,this red line is negative and costing me a lot of money,i play 0.25/0.5 and have looked at some ways to solve this major leak but if anyone can offer some advice i will be very thankfull!! i am trying to match my play with at least an hours study each day,some people have said dont make any drastic changes because you are winning but i am concerned!

Also 1 other stat i need advice on is over 90k hands i should hit a pocket pair an average of 409 times each however AA and KK i have hit only 379 and 380 times respectively denining me 59 top premium hands which make the most money!! is this sample too small or am i just running a shade bad??

Many thanks if anyone can comment
Report TheProd January 11, 2010 7:41 AM GMT
3bet call% 36.5%

No expert by any means but this has to be too high?

All the other figures imo look fine
Report Ilovegreece January 11, 2010 12:04 PM GMT
racing revenue = NIT

god i hate nits
Report aristonandon January 11, 2010 12:13 PM GMT
reasonable stats and the red line should be a worry. its were most players are losing money. wont give away too much on an open forum but you need to address that red line and watch your win rate go up a lot.

many ways to do this but basically you are giving up too many pots post flop. most common mistake is just firing out a cbet and when someone calls you (maybe floats you) you are just giving up on the pots. increase your turn cbet to address that if that is a problem.
Report racing revenue January 11, 2010 1:48 PM GMT
Thanks aristoandon,i will try and make some slow changes,i might come down from 6 to 5 or 4 tables and introduce them gradually so i can concentrate on making the best decisions and not just go on auto pilot!
Report aristonandon January 11, 2010 1:50 PM GMT
how u play the turn is probably the key. without seeing your graphs and applying filters cant be sure but i bet you will find you are giving up to many pots on the turn after firing a cbet on flop so you are too floatable to the regs. maybe try the delayed cbet a bit more where u check the flop and cbet the turn- far stronger move in most cash games
Report Jim Hensen January 11, 2010 2:13 PM GMT
even at $50nlh?
Report spackers1 January 11, 2010 2:59 PM GMT
most important stat is button %'s shud b over 40% i think. i ply about 50vpip on button
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