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14 Dec 09
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Right first thing. If anybody is interested in this, first dibs will go to 3 people who have staked me before and i am in makeup with, these know themselves, JS, SB and NS. Also obviously i open myself to ridicule with a thread like this but if you wish to abuse me please open another thread.
Anyway what i am looking to be staked for - $6.50 turbo 45 mans on stars.
Amount needed - $650, can be divvied up into portions no less than $65/10%
Terms - 50/50 on the first $1,000 net profit, 60/40 next $1,000 profit, 70/30 thereafter.
Staking period - 8,000 games completed, if no profit is made after 8,000 games then i expect to go into makeup with those stakers who will then have the option to reload and make me grind until all losses are recovered (this wont happen over 8k games lol).
Any FPPs accrued i will expect to keep.
I'm sure you know a bit about me but incase you don't remember i have played for a living for over 5 years now. This year has mainly been a pretty big rollercoaster with far too many blowups that i would care to imagine! Anyway lets cut the crap and show you some of what i have done pokerwise in the past.
Spent most of my career playing cash. Started with holdem, moved to omaha now. Played everywhere from 10 to 1000nlh/plo. Probably made around $75k in that time, but i was sloppy with keeping records up until this year, so that figure is a very rough estimate. This year has been mostly HU turbo sng for me. A lot of the time being staked by 3 main people on betfair. This was fairly successful and i think using 4 different accounts helped me beat the regs on there consistently (the regs were pretty terrible to be fair)
The sharkscopes for these are all betfair, some of the graphs are not all my games as other people were using the accounts before/after me.
Coca919 - (Tom Ferraris account) First 500~ games are me
skolsuper - (James Keys account) All games are me
KoiCarp - (Paul Miltons account) Games 2500-4000~ are me
McGuvnor - (Paul Miltons account) All games are me
I can get the account holders to verify this and that it was me playing if needed. Slight problem is Milton and Ferrari are travelling Thailand until February so might take a while to get them to contact you (lucky**s!)
I also had a bash at some $1 45 man turbos on stars last week and did alright, small 250 sample but managed 45% ROI.
This can be checked here - http://www.officialpokerrankings.com/pokerstars/Sunday8pm/poker/results/DC4D5375137D41B29C333863D45CD478.html?t=2
Finally my live cashes profile - http://www.pokerpages.com/players/profiles/75061/ben-mayhew.htm
When playing those turbo 45 mans the other week i was 12-24 tabling them (stacking). Not sure which is best for my hourly rate but i reckon 16 is cool. Playing hours are not a problem, i rarely play weekends but have no commitments during the week and can easily play 1,000 games a month although i'd probably look at getting 1500-2000 done to start with to combat any variance demons that try and come my way.
Any questions please ask kindly,
Thanks,
Ben :)
Anyway what i am looking to be staked for - $6.50 turbo 45 mans on stars.
Amount needed - $650, can be divvied up into portions no less than $65/10%
Terms - 50/50 on the first $1,000 net profit, 60/40 next $1,000 profit, 70/30 thereafter.
Staking period - 8,000 games completed, if no profit is made after 8,000 games then i expect to go into makeup with those stakers who will then have the option to reload and make me grind until all losses are recovered (this wont happen over 8k games lol).
Any FPPs accrued i will expect to keep.
I'm sure you know a bit about me but incase you don't remember i have played for a living for over 5 years now. This year has mainly been a pretty big rollercoaster with far too many blowups that i would care to imagine! Anyway lets cut the crap and show you some of what i have done pokerwise in the past.
Spent most of my career playing cash. Started with holdem, moved to omaha now. Played everywhere from 10 to 1000nlh/plo. Probably made around $75k in that time, but i was sloppy with keeping records up until this year, so that figure is a very rough estimate. This year has been mostly HU turbo sng for me. A lot of the time being staked by 3 main people on betfair. This was fairly successful and i think using 4 different accounts helped me beat the regs on there consistently (the regs were pretty terrible to be fair)
The sharkscopes for these are all betfair, some of the graphs are not all my games as other people were using the accounts before/after me.
Coca919 - (Tom Ferraris account) First 500~ games are me
skolsuper - (James Keys account) All games are me
KoiCarp - (Paul Miltons account) Games 2500-4000~ are me
McGuvnor - (Paul Miltons account) All games are me
I can get the account holders to verify this and that it was me playing if needed. Slight problem is Milton and Ferrari are travelling Thailand until February so might take a while to get them to contact you (lucky**s!)
I also had a bash at some $1 45 man turbos on stars last week and did alright, small 250 sample but managed 45% ROI.
This can be checked here - http://www.officialpokerrankings.com/pokerstars/Sunday8pm/poker/results/DC4D5375137D41B29C333863D45CD478.html?t=2
Finally my live cashes profile - http://www.pokerpages.com/players/profiles/75061/ben-mayhew.htm
When playing those turbo 45 mans the other week i was 12-24 tabling them (stacking). Not sure which is best for my hourly rate but i reckon 16 is cool. Playing hours are not a problem, i rarely play weekends but have no commitments during the week and can easily play 1,000 games a month although i'd probably look at getting 1500-2000 done to start with to combat any variance demons that try and come my way.
Any questions please ask kindly,
Thanks,
Ben :)
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but are they recruiting people with big gaps on their cvs
cos i'm told, nearly all of them go straight in the bin
cos i'm told, nearly all of them go straight in the bin
the call centre side of our business is recruiting for talk talk at the moment. gaps in a cv wouldnt be an issue, as long as he was able to communicate well, and has a basic understanding of tech support.
the work would be boring and it wouldnt be well paid, but its indoors and you would be working with a lot of young attractive people.
obviously with big gaps in a cv you arent gonna walk into a 30k job. :-)
the work would be boring and it wouldnt be well paid, but its indoors and you would be working with a lot of young attractive people.
obviously with big gaps in a cv you arent gonna walk into a 30k job. :-)
i remember an interview with a phone company and experience in that was basically a necessity
talk talk is more to do with broadband, and as long as you have a basic understanding of computers the rest is covered in training.
we are talking 7 quid an hour jobs here that most kids in sixth form/at uni can pick up in 2 weeks, its not rocket science as its only 1st line support. anything too technical gets passed on.
most call centre work is boring and badly paid and the people running them know that turnover will be high, which is why its pretty easy to get into even with gaps in your cv.
bf customer service being a pretty obvious example. sometimes you get through to a moron sometimes you get through to someone helpful.
we are talking 7 quid an hour jobs here that most kids in sixth form/at uni can pick up in 2 weeks, its not rocket science as its only 1st line support. anything too technical gets passed on.
most call centre work is boring and badly paid and the people running them know that turnover will be high, which is why its pretty easy to get into even with gaps in your cv.
bf customer service being a pretty obvious example. sometimes you get through to a moron sometimes you get through to someone helpful.
ah yeah but there are plenty of morons without gaps on their cvs
indeed a large proportion of the population is moronic
indeed a large proportion of the population is moronic
with a lot of call centres as long as you show up with your shoelaces tied and the ability to spell your own name correctly theres a good chance they will give you the benefit of the doubt.
the training normally amounts to you being handed a script to read from, and taught how to put someone on hold. :-)
the training normally amounts to you being handed a script to read from, and taught how to put someone on hold. :-)
yeah they majority i've dealt with have been semi retarded
Had about 30 unsuccessful applications for what its worth in the last 3/4 months. I got no worse than average qualifications, obv my work history is chequered but i think the problem is like canary said. 100 applications for each job. I applied for a job with the FA, 12.5k a year fulltime, cracking job though, i thought i was a lock to get it and didn't even get to interview stage.
yea but you also thought you were a 'lock' to complete this task and you didn't
Not your fault though, poker is a lot more difficult than most people think
so don't blame yourself for not having the gumption to do it.
so don't blame yourself for not having the gumption to do it.
Think on the bright side... At least you learnt that you don't have what it takes to win at poker.
You can give it up, knowing that you tried and failed, and that at least you tried.
good luck
You can give it up, knowing that you tried and failed, and that at least you tried.
good luck
Why do people chase jobs where there are 100+ applicants? If you're serious about getting a job then decide what area you are willing to work in and contact the firms direct. There may be an upcoming vacancy and they may even decide to create one for someone who shows a bit of initiative.
HYPE 07 Jan 17:13
Why do people chase jobs where there are 100+ applicants?
are you for real?
how do you suggest stopping people applying for the same job
Why do people chase jobs where there are 100+ applicants?
are you for real?
how do you suggest stopping people applying for the same job
and firms have a recruitment process
you don't just ring them up and they decide they have a vacancy where only you will be considered
you don't just ring them up and they decide they have a vacancy where only you will be considered
canaryboy 07 Jan 17:15
HYPE 07 Jan 17:13
Why do people chase jobs where there are 100+ applicants?
are you for real?
how do you suggest stopping people applying for the same job
Erm, by getting an education and developing a skillset where very few people can actually do that job, perhaps?
HYPE 07 Jan 17:13
Why do people chase jobs where there are 100+ applicants?
are you for real?
how do you suggest stopping people applying for the same job
Erm, by getting an education and developing a skillset where very few people can actually do that job, perhaps?
and how does that stop people applying?
you haven't really thought this through have you...
you haven't really thought this through have you...
Clearly moreso than you have if you think people actually apply for jobs that they're not remotely qualified for.
Travelling looks good on your cv + you can fill in some of the gap time on your cv by elaborating the time you have spent out of the country. You could also pick up casual jobs whilst travelling in order to pad out your cv a little bit, and of course you never know where things lead. Not to mention backpacking *****on tap and being around happy people who are in holiday mode all the time :)
I know you need cash for this, but it could be an aim abit further down the line.
I know you need cash for this, but it could be an aim abit further down the line.
well done lenny, u made a profit so not all bad, its not easy tp make a profit at those levels, i think you need to run really well to make decent profit,but if you do it again i would just stay off the forum and e mail you results to your backers, you just dont need the sh1t from people being nasty,good luck and if you decide to do it again i will take a share.
Travelling looks no better on your CV than poker. I have done both and keep both well away. I went for a 12 month temporary job when I came back from travelling and the reason the recruitment agent was told I didn't get the job was because they didn't think I would stay long. This was for a 12 month contract ffs.
Given a choice, most HR departments/recruiters will go for the safe option. If you mention poker, 95% of people will assume you have a gambling problem, and if you mention travelling, 95% will assume you are a waster. Just how most peoples are.
A lot of gettiing a job with gaps in your CV is either a question of finding someone desparate and/or someone who doesn't check too hard. But I find it easier to hide gaps, as I have been self employed for 10 years, and just don't mention the gaps between contracts. I am just relying on them not checking too hard.
And for the smug, I'd also add that I am very well qualified and the jobs market was pretty horrific for a while. Having a ton of qualifications doesn't matter at all if all the firms in your area have a recruitment freeze.
Given a choice, most HR departments/recruiters will go for the safe option. If you mention poker, 95% of people will assume you have a gambling problem, and if you mention travelling, 95% will assume you are a waster. Just how most peoples are.
A lot of gettiing a job with gaps in your CV is either a question of finding someone desparate and/or someone who doesn't check too hard. But I find it easier to hide gaps, as I have been self employed for 10 years, and just don't mention the gaps between contracts. I am just relying on them not checking too hard.
And for the smug, I'd also add that I am very well qualified and the jobs market was pretty horrific for a while. Having a ton of qualifications doesn't matter at all if all the firms in your area have a recruitment freeze.
canaryboy 07 Jan 17:16
and firms have a recruitment process
you don't just ring them up and they decide they have a vacancy where only you will be considered
Well when I was unemployed I hired a car for the day, went round to about 10 companies telling them what I had done and that I was after work and got 3 job offers.
Only people who have never tried the direct approach spout off about recruitment processes and correct procedures etc. Obviously there are some companies that this wont work with but there are also a lot it will!
and firms have a recruitment process
you don't just ring them up and they decide they have a vacancy where only you will be considered
Well when I was unemployed I hired a car for the day, went round to about 10 companies telling them what I had done and that I was after work and got 3 job offers.
Only people who have never tried the direct approach spout off about recruitment processes and correct procedures etc. Obviously there are some companies that this wont work with but there are also a lot it will!
^ - mind you was 20 years ago now so maybe times have changed ?
still works like that in certain industries Hype especially sales related.
also loads of generalisations in assumptions on this thread, each firm will have different beliefs which may or may not be influenced by individuals dependant on recruitment policy.
For example the company i work for would look on a travel experience as a plus, especially in recently quailified graduates.
For example the company i work for would look on a travel experience as a plus, especially in recently quailified graduates.
Things are very different when the economy is booming and people are desperate for staff, CV blemishes are overlooked. When I ran my own company in better times, I'd pretty much take anyone who was keen and had a bit of an aptitude for what I did. I couldn't be fussy as there wasn't a huge amount of applicants. But in the recent past, jobs in my industry were very rare and the amount of applicants for each job was very high, so things are very different. Employers can be very fussy in the circumstances.
And having a 3 month sabbatical or doing VSO work will probably be viewed more positively than somebody who has sacked off a decent job to sit on a beach or play poker for 2 years.
But I'd say it is definitely looking up in a lot of industries and before I found my most recent job, I started getting way more interviews/possible jobs than I had just 6 months earlier. But I wouldn't go so far as to start having a go at people who aren't working.
And having a 3 month sabbatical or doing VSO work will probably be viewed more positively than somebody who has sacked off a decent job to sit on a beach or play poker for 2 years.
But I'd say it is definitely looking up in a lot of industries and before I found my most recent job, I started getting way more interviews/possible jobs than I had just 6 months earlier. But I wouldn't go so far as to start having a go at people who aren't working.
With travelling, in your experience that was the case doobs. In my case I don't think it was. And I don't mean heading your CV with a 'i went travelling blah blah blah.
How old were you when you went travelling? Alot do it after finishing uni and it is seen as a positive thing in my experience. To say 95% see you as a waster is a joke statement. Did you have a mid life crisis and then go travelling? ;) Maybe thats why they got that impression from yourself.
How old were you when you went travelling? Alot do it after finishing uni and it is seen as a positive thing in my experience. To say 95% see you as a waster is a joke statement. Did you have a mid life crisis and then go travelling? ;) Maybe thats why they got that impression from yourself.
And I've done poker and travelling and still got a decent job this december just gone, without experience in that field may i add. So going my perspective alone as you have done, there are loads of jobs around and you don't need any experience, which is of course a load of tripe.
Simon, I suspect you were rather lucky to get the job tbh. WD though.
I went when I was 29. I think a year off to sit on a beach is viewed positively by those who have been, or want to go and pretty badly by most of the rest. But it is a long while ago now, and pretty easy to hide on the CV. I'd just say that if something can have a negative connotation, you don't want to put it on if you don't have to.
Hence hobbies, poker, travelling and age don't feature. But I guess if you are young and have done nothing else for the last 5 years you may struggle to hide it.
Hence hobbies, poker, travelling and age don't feature. But I guess if you are young and have done nothing else for the last 5 years you may struggle to hide it.
Cheers wahey, yeah I was lucky because it's a decent job. And if they thought I was a waster from my CV they would have been correct! Thing is I always knew that when I wanted to start work and was motivated to do so, I'd be a good asset to a company, and I went into the interview with that belief. I didn't apply for the job either, I put my cv online and an agency contacted me and put me forward for it.
But yeah I was abit lucky i think :)
I don't know ben but travelling is a great experience in many ways, and grizzly old doobs is talking bullplop.
But yeah I was abit lucky i think :)
I don't know ben but travelling is a great experience in many ways, and grizzly old doobs is talking bullplop.
I think the travelling on CV is largely dependent on the nature of job your going for. If it is in a professional environment it is seen in better terms. I guess this is because it is seen as an overall positive, and also that you have got it out of your system. Perhaps also that the people you are talking to have done it/want to do it also. I found this to be the case in engineering/construction and know it to be the case in legal and surveying industries. I used to vet CV's and would always look at the timing of it. For example if someone finised uni and did 4 years in industry then took a year out and returned to industry then it looks fine. If someone did 8 months, left for a year, returned for 6 months and was now looking to change sectors then it would look a little suspect. I also know a lot of people who return to uk to get any old job to get the cash to go off again, and I presume that employers in these fields are aware of that, perhaps that is where the difference lies?
Poker can work two ways I suppose, and I guess is largely how you can sell it as a positive. I would prefer to leave it off my CV and consider discussing it at interview, whereas the travelling I would have no issue with putting it on CV.
With regards to CV gaps, in general. If you have one solid break then put something in, perhaps leave it open to curiosity, like simple saying sabatical, and sell it well at interview. If you have many gaps of differing lengths then reformatting the CV without dates is probably a better way to go.
Poker can work two ways I suppose, and I guess is largely how you can sell it as a positive. I would prefer to leave it off my CV and consider discussing it at interview, whereas the travelling I would have no issue with putting it on CV.
With regards to CV gaps, in general. If you have one solid break then put something in, perhaps leave it open to curiosity, like simple saying sabatical, and sell it well at interview. If you have many gaps of differing lengths then reformatting the CV without dates is probably a better way to go.
As someone who has spent an unfortunate amount of time reading CVs and interviewing candidates over the years, rejecting someone on the basis that they had been travelling would be idiotic. No competent manager would do that.
ben if you ever fancy living in hartlepool, which i wouldnt reccommend, i can get you a 12.5k job starting whenever you want.
I have a years gap from when I went travelling and have never had any kind of problem getting work, I did do temp work whilst I was away which I guess must help.
I was unemployed for 3 months after getting made redundant. Couldn't be bothered working and was playing lots of poker, got bored, applied for 6 jobs, got 3 offers and was working within 2 weeks of applying. This was September 2008, if I'd left it 3 months longer I very much doubt it would have been so easy finding work.
I was unemployed for 3 months after getting made redundant. Couldn't be bothered working and was playing lots of poker, got bored, applied for 6 jobs, got 3 offers and was working within 2 weeks of applying. This was September 2008, if I'd left it 3 months longer I very much doubt it would have been so easy finding work.
FFS, all you got to do is say you worked in the family business, sales, retail or last ditch takeway, it really isn't that hard!
BlufDaddy 07 Jan 22:25
As someone who has spent an unfortunate amount of time reading CVs and interviewing candidates over the years, rejecting someone on the basis that they had been travelling would be idiotic. No competent manager would do that.
bluf do yourself a favour, cant you say anything that dosn't make you sound mental, best to say nothing if all you can do is brag, next time you post, ask yourself does this read like i'm bragging? if so dont post it then people might not think your mad. dont see you bragging too much about the $4 HU you are playing now, must be hard for one of the best players in europe, cant believe you** lenny for playing small stakes while you do the same, pot kettle and black springs to mind. good luck for the new year, stay off the drugs , try not to be horrible and set a target for the year, try to get one person to like you. gl
As someone who has spent an unfortunate amount of time reading CVs and interviewing candidates over the years, rejecting someone on the basis that they had been travelling would be idiotic. No competent manager would do that.
bluf do yourself a favour, cant you say anything that dosn't make you sound mental, best to say nothing if all you can do is brag, next time you post, ask yourself does this read like i'm bragging? if so dont post it then people might not think your mad. dont see you bragging too much about the $4 HU you are playing now, must be hard for one of the best players in europe, cant believe you** lenny for playing small stakes while you do the same, pot kettle and black springs to mind. good luck for the new year, stay off the drugs , try not to be horrible and set a target for the year, try to get one person to like you. gl
bethammer 08 Jan 00:05
BlufDaddy 07 Jan 22:25
As someone who has spent an unfortunate amount of time reading CVs and interviewing candidates over the years, rejecting someone on the basis that they had been travelling would be idiotic. No competent manager would do that.
bluf do yourself a favour, cant you say anything that dosn't make you sound mental, best to say nothing if all you can do is brag, next time you post, ask yourself does this read like i'm bragging? if so dont post it then people might not think your mad. dont see you bragging too much about the $4 HU you are playing now, must be hard for one of the best players in europe, cant believe you **** lenny for playing small stakes while you do the same, pot kettle and black springs to mind. good luck for the new year, stay off the drugs , try not to be horrible and set a target for the year, try to get one person to like you. gl
How little success must you have acheived in life to consider that a brag?
How was xmas? I heard you started crying in front of mates about this being your first xmas without your wife.
Fancy 10 x $100 HU SNG?
BlufDaddy 07 Jan 22:25
As someone who has spent an unfortunate amount of time reading CVs and interviewing candidates over the years, rejecting someone on the basis that they had been travelling would be idiotic. No competent manager would do that.
bluf do yourself a favour, cant you say anything that dosn't make you sound mental, best to say nothing if all you can do is brag, next time you post, ask yourself does this read like i'm bragging? if so dont post it then people might not think your mad. dont see you bragging too much about the $4 HU you are playing now, must be hard for one of the best players in europe, cant believe you **** lenny for playing small stakes while you do the same, pot kettle and black springs to mind. good luck for the new year, stay off the drugs , try not to be horrible and set a target for the year, try to get one person to like you. gl
How little success must you have acheived in life to consider that a brag?
How was xmas? I heard you started crying in front of mates about this being your first xmas without your wife.
Fancy 10 x $100 HU SNG?
lol, 4 years since we split ,up, and yes i had a lovely christmas, had my daughter over and spent christmas with good friends, so funny that line about crying in front of friends. never cried in my life, and i suspect you could never cry infront of friends as you have none. good luck.
i suspected you was bragging because you were typing.
Im sure you cried bet when hangman took us to that nice indian after wsop and i knocked the whole bottle of wine over within 1 min of being seated ;)
Well Craig had cashed well and it was a fine wine all over the table and everyone close ;). Think I had one to many on the rails that dayl
Why don't you get a job in a factory or a warehouse job for leading supermarket retailer, you don't need qualifications or experience and they normally pay £17K+ with pension etc
This has been one classic thread - I just want to add my two pence worth - what people say about getting a job is right - if you really want to get work you can.. simple really - its all about your own drive - blaming rubbish like I try and I went for this and I went for that is just an excuse. I wouldnt give one if you was just to front up and say I cant be bothered to work! I worked in supermarket at 16 working up through ranks until I had my own store, 10 years I did this - had several stores - worked every hour god sends. Once did a 36 hour straight shift cause of major issues - In the end after years of only taking 2 one week holidays a year I was fookd - a shell, a gave everything to the firm and when I thought about it got nothing back - I thought at the end of it all Im gonna work myself to the bone, miss my kids growing up and walk away with a plastic watch - So I woke up one morning after 10 years and never went back - this was 4 years ago - I didnt know what I was gonna do, had to start selling my stuff on Ebay to pay bills, then a friend gave me a few vintage cameras - I listed these and for some reason I started to buy and sell old cameras - I knew nothing about them at the time - since then I have sold over 10000 units, if I feel lazy and cant be bothered I can still clear 60 grand a year clear profit, if I push myself I can make 150-200.000 k profit a year - what Im saying is it dont matter who you are or what you know you just have to have the drive to make money... and dont be a mug dont work for anyone, begging for wages of some company who dont give two s**ts about you - now I really dont know why I have waffled on all this cr*p - I guess I have smoked to much today, :-) p.s. if you ever need an old camera, lens or anything photographic let me know.. or indeed if you have anything like that you want to sell :-)
IPLAYBAD, With respect to say " and dont be a mug dont work for anyone, begging for wages of some company who dont give two s**ts about you" is disrespectful and completely insensitive towards others. Most people dont have the option of just leaving their jobs and starting their own business. They have families to feed, mortgages and other bills to pay and are not in a position to just walk out of their jobs and start their own business.
Insensitive? Telling ppl how you want them to address you? get over yourself winkle, he's just saying working for yourself is an option aswelll.
If you're talking about my earlier post in this thread, the guy was rude to me and I was making it clear that I would not talk to him if he he was rude to me in future. And no, sadly working for themselves is most definately not an option for most people
I was not meaning to be disrespectful to anyone, just giving my oppinion - I had mortgage, bills and 3 kids when I did this and I still do today - its more about you can do whatever you put your mind to if you have the drive and discipline :-) its a different spin on all the other posts - I am not stupid and I know life is hard work - I have been through many bad times in my life, a lot more then most - if in life you can beat the one thing that is holding you back, you will win - the one thing that is holding you back is..... yourself...... we have the answer ad we can all sleep easy at night
IPlayBad - A lot of what you say is true, but most people (especially in the current economical climate) are too busy just trying to keep their heads above water and pay the bills. They havent got the luxury of just leaving their jobs no matter how much they believe in themselves, and it was not fair of you to label them mugs and to refer to the money they earn as "begging for wages". I understand what you are trying to say but it came out a little insensitive, thats all. I know lot of hard woring people that can't just leave their jobs no matter how much they believe in themselves and no matter how well they could do on their own. Just my 2 cents worth
can't see why anybody would see your post as insensitive playbad to be honest
no idea why he tells everyone how hard he worked and how little he got back to also criticise people for 'begging for wages'
just a tad hypocriticial lol
just a tad hypocriticial lol
Well I see how a lot of people could and will. Are you in a job Simon? Do you have a mortgage and family to support?
i suggest you get out more if his post offends you
"Get out more" ? What does that mean in English Simon? And you didnt answer my last question.
why you think im answerable you u? like i said before get over yourself. and get out more means if you are offended by his post, you are being overly sensitive and are easily offended.
Trust me, Ive been there and done it Simon. Im guessing Im around double your age from the way you talk. I just dont like to see people talking down to others Canary so I was "slightly" offended.
And Simon if you mean by "get over myself" that I should toelrate others being rude to me, sorry, thats not my style and I always stand up for myself.
Let me have a neutral say in this:
I admire anybody taking the initiative to work and make a success of themselves instead of making somebody else a tidy profit and never actually being rewarded properly for their hard efforts, so I too took the plunge.
But I do think your words are a little harsh on others that do not get that opportunity. I gave up a hell of a lot and hopefully it will pay dividends down the line, but you are only able to say that because your venture has been a success.
Good for you, I really mean that. But what if it failed to due circumstances beyond your control? Would you be able to be so smug and critical of others that hadn't made a success of themselves? (smug may be a little harsh, let's say 'enthusiastic').
I admire anybody taking the initiative to work and make a success of themselves instead of making somebody else a tidy profit and never actually being rewarded properly for their hard efforts, so I too took the plunge.
But I do think your words are a little harsh on others that do not get that opportunity. I gave up a hell of a lot and hopefully it will pay dividends down the line, but you are only able to say that because your venture has been a success.
Good for you, I really mean that. But what if it failed to due circumstances beyond your control? Would you be able to be so smug and critical of others that hadn't made a success of themselves? (smug may be a little harsh, let's say 'enthusiastic').
its a gambling forum, so he uses alittle choice language to get his point across. judging by the way i talk? you make alot of judgements on a faceless forum where text can easily be taken out of context. nice 1
Yes, you talk like someone that couldnt possibly understand why I was "slightly" offended. If you either dont work for someone or have a family, then perhaps this is why you dont understand my feelings.
no idea why he tells everyone how hard he worked and how little he got back to also criticise people for 'begging for wages'
just a tad hypocriticial lol
in reply to this - I to was one of these people - this is obv for all to see - I woke up to it thats all - I didnt get little for it - I was very well paid, if you know the typical wage of a supermarket store manager you will know it could not be referred to as little - but in the end I was begging for it by agreeing contracts etc to sell my sole....when I refer to getting nothing back I did not mean money wise - many millions of people will understand me when I say the job gave me nothing back :-) it took me 10 years to realise it is wrong - I now have self worth, self respect, huge amount of family time, I live my life as I please and I wont die having lead my entire life for some organisation to get hugely rich of my wasted body :-) thats all, I do not feel it hypocritical my previous comments - if I were to still be in employment and making my comments then I would be hypicrtical however in my circumstances today and for the previous 4 years and the rest of my life I am not :-)
just a tad hypocriticial lol
in reply to this - I to was one of these people - this is obv for all to see - I woke up to it thats all - I didnt get little for it - I was very well paid, if you know the typical wage of a supermarket store manager you will know it could not be referred to as little - but in the end I was begging for it by agreeing contracts etc to sell my sole....when I refer to getting nothing back I did not mean money wise - many millions of people will understand me when I say the job gave me nothing back :-) it took me 10 years to realise it is wrong - I now have self worth, self respect, huge amount of family time, I live my life as I please and I wont die having lead my entire life for some organisation to get hugely rich of my wasted body :-) thats all, I do not feel it hypocritical my previous comments - if I were to still be in employment and making my comments then I would be hypicrtical however in my circumstances today and for the previous 4 years and the rest of my life I am not :-)
that should read "a family to support". Thats why I asked you those questions because if you're not in that position, then you may find it hard to understand the reality for most people however much they may want to leave their jobs and start up on their own
Ive decided full time internet poker is probably the biggest head melt going. Wether winning or losing. Did my first week of 9-5 there in 6 years and loved it- well, thats a bit strong but meeting other people getting the banter going is gd steam. Of all that guff nearly 40 days now- its amazing how much a mind set can change.
Theres tons of jobs out there if you want them, simple as that. Im also lookn at drop shipping btwn amazon and ebay- making 20/25% of phones, mp3 players etc. Dunno if it'l work but startn small.
Theres tons of jobs out there if you want them, simple as that. Im also lookn at drop shipping btwn amazon and ebay- making 20/25% of phones, mp3 players etc. Dunno if it'l work but startn small.
ok fair enough, still stand by my original comments though.
douglas, exactly the same, was 6 yrs december just gone and done my first full week this week. Really enjoyed it, poker fulltime not worth it unless you make over 50k imo
IPlayBad, just for your information, I am a business owner myself and an employer. I just dont believe that people are "mugs" for working for others, I dont see wages as charity, treat my staff as I would want to be treated, but I live in a world where people that I work with cannot just get up, leave their jobs and start their own business, especially given the economic climate. I was a little surprised by your post as a business owner yourself, thats all, but Im sure you meant it in the nicest possible way
What line of business are you in Chelsea if you dont mind me asking?
Ha, made people are starting to wise up! Tho no doubt more will come to replace. I dont regret the 6 years, and was close to 50kp/a prob on 50k if had to pay tax- seen a lotta places i wouldnt without the cards. The wage im on now is so low its embarrasing- well its min wage with a few bonuses thrown in. Im stickn it min 10weeks and not moving till i get a new job in the industry I want to do my post-grad in (advertising) Also going second date with a wee honey (well shes not so wee 33yr old divorcee- damn hot- so theres more bonuses than just cash :p)
More to life than sitting in front of a PC all thro the night tho- and in my experience- a huge portion of the cash went toward keepn myself temprarly 'sane' (turns out i was actually storing up huge problems for down the line- but hey- mad sense at the time)
Still play the odd game of cards- in 2 tournys now actually lol, but full-time, thro the night- ugh, id have to gtd £80k p/a imo to stick it. Its just such a scarifice.
More to life than sitting in front of a PC all thro the night tho- and in my experience- a huge portion of the cash went toward keepn myself temprarly 'sane' (turns out i was actually storing up huge problems for down the line- but hey- mad sense at the time)
Still play the odd game of cards- in 2 tournys now actually lol, but full-time, thro the night- ugh, id have to gtd £80k p/a imo to stick it. Its just such a scarifice.
I have a couple of internet companies Ben. Started out in 2001 when I was living at home, had no responsibilities, and was lucky that someone was prepared to lend me 10k. I worked 20 hours a day and didnt take a day off or holiday for 5 years. There is no way on the planet I could have set up today if I had a family and mortgage, especially in the current economic climate, and as ambitions as I am, I would hang onto my job as though it was golddust and wouldnt consider myself a mug for doing so.
Ok thanks, How many people do you employ and are there any websites i can have a look through? Sorry to be so intrusive
Iplaybad your story is good and you got lucky by falling into something golden where the market was relatively untapped by the sounds of it.
A business requires a lot of thought and a **g lot of hard work to get them up and running. This can take years with no profit at first, and financial planning before you start is a must.
To quit a job with out a proper plan in place is utter madness. You obv got lucky but for every lucky one theres a whole bundle of people that fail because they believe your theory.
That all said if you put the plans in place pre it can be one of the most rewarding life changes you can make.
A business requires a lot of thought and a **g lot of hard work to get them up and running. This can take years with no profit at first, and financial planning before you start is a must.
To quit a job with out a proper plan in place is utter madness. You obv got lucky but for every lucky one theres a whole bundle of people that fail because they believe your theory.
That all said if you put the plans in place pre it can be one of the most rewarding life changes you can make.
same here dont regret, have enjoyed myself 'dossing' many perks but there comes a point where ive had my fun with it and ready to move on. In a couple of games myself, 1st time ive played for a while, is refreshing! Is just nice to be in a regular pattern to be honest, haven't had a regular sleeping pattern since i left school 10 yrs ago which tells its own story really
I employ 4 people and its not a "website" type business, though it is run online and involves the internet. Its a smallish business but Ive done OK. I cant really say too much publicly Ben or give out details. I dont know what lunatic may get after me if I am unfortunate enough to suck them out, which is unlikely to ever happen given the way I run.
well put Joffers. I guess thats what I was trying to say but obv didnt express myself very well!
a half-way for many is a one-man limited company contractor.
it's less risky than many other forms of business since your outlay is essentially very limited but does require you to have some skills that the market will pay a premium for.
you're effectively doing a similar job as permanent members of staff but without the support of the organisation or any of the corporate blx.
however, it is riskier than permanent employment but you are working for yourself.
it's less risky than many other forms of business since your outlay is essentially very limited but does require you to have some skills that the market will pay a premium for.
you're effectively doing a similar job as permanent members of staff but without the support of the organisation or any of the corporate blx.
however, it is riskier than permanent employment but you are working for yourself.
Lets just say I didnt have a girlfriend or a social life of any kind, but I saw an opportunity and didnt want to miss it. Its been worth it in many ways but I'm not married and no kids and in my early 40's so not sure if Id have been better off just living a "normal" life.
Hi Jofy Thanks for your comments - I appreciate what you are saying - I think I may have been misunderstood - I left work with no idea what I would do - I did stumble on what I am doing but really it is all down to me and my drive - had it not been this line it would be something else (I will diversify in the next few years, invest money into different areas etc) I am not in what I am saying is say quit your job do this.. it will be easy - I was just really saying you can do whatever you put your mind to. I do not employ people - my wife and me do everything, it is easy - I buy from auctions, bootfairs, privately and on Ebay itself - single items, small lots, huge lots - because I have learnt such knowledge I have power in the market... this is all you need to succeed in anything - if you have more knowledge then mr smith and johnny nobollx then you can make money - I can look at a lot for 200 quid and see a grand profit, most other people will look at it and just see a pile of cra*
A form of temping Dibble? Sounds viable but again tough to leave your day job if you have a mortgage to pay and a family to support. I guess if you had experience in a specialist field and were unable to leave your day job, you could find people that were out of work and connect them with companies that needed that type of temp staff and make some money that way?
thanks winkle - I by no means make huge money but we as a family have a very nice standard of living.. just to be a sad tossr, I have made many mistakes in my life, had many addictions etc - I have leanrt that no matter what you have, no matter how much money you have nothing beats loving and being loved by your partner, spending time with your kids and being a family unit - people spend to much time and effort in there jobs - work long hours, when they come home are tired and stressed - never see the kids, agro with the wife just cause of your own stresses and forget all what I have said above - the really important thing in life... you can be that proud man that worked 18 hours a day 7 days a week down a coal mine for 50 years, you have great banter with the lads and your a real man.... while your kids dont even know who there dad is and you have grown so far apart from your wife you dont recognize each other any more - ... I know I am a sad**rr but I mean every word of it .....when you are on your death bed you will not be holding hands with your employer but you probably spent more time with them :-)
IPlayBad, You are absolutely 100% right about what youre saying and I'd urge everyone to go out there and try and work for themselves, but all Im saying is that at the moment it is simply not a reality for most, especially with mortgages and families. And we both know that however intelligent you are and however hard you work, it is no guarantee that your business is going to work out, you do need a little luck too, to be in the right place and the right time, thats all Im saying. But you are urging people to leave their day jobs and Im saying DONT! Most can't because of their mortgages and families, but if they do have the option, I dont believe that this is the time to start a business unless you have a very unique idea in a very niche area. By all means start off something part time and build it, but not the time to be leaving work and "taking a chance" if you have a family and responsibilities. Just my 2 cents again.
5,6,7 years ago you could perhaps leave your job, give something a try and then just walk back into another job if it didnt work out - I think times are very different.
winletoes u got issues son. think ur some kind of big dik internet company genius....f o ...... if ur that smart then ur well aware that this guy is just**!ng against the wind and even if he does makes a good return it aint going to him.
if u got some much £££ and u are so concerned for the kid why not give him a break and lend him some proper stack on a low interest free loan...
...or let me guess ur full of it "Chelsea M"
if u got some much £££ and u are so concerned for the kid why not give him a break and lend him some proper stack on a low interest free loan...
...or let me guess ur full of it "Chelsea M"
15Stone10Lbs, Im not your son and my name is not winkletoes.
The only issue I have right now is with you and people like you. I have no time for windup merchants with nothing better to do with their time than to insult others.
I have learnt to treat people with decency and respect irrespective of who they are what they do as long as they are nice people and treat me in the same way.
The reality is most probably that one of the wheels on my car costs more than what you drive right now, but I certainly couldnt care less if what you believe this or don't. Why should I? You mean exactly nothing to me and its actually none of your business anyway. Many people on this site have met me in person so go ask them if it interests you that much.
In the mean time, you can read so you can write. If you have issues addressing me by the name you see above, either don't bother repying or if you do, don't expect any kind of reply from me. My time is valuable and Im certainly not going to waste it on people like you.
The only issue I have right now is with you and people like you. I have no time for windup merchants with nothing better to do with their time than to insult others.
I have learnt to treat people with decency and respect irrespective of who they are what they do as long as they are nice people and treat me in the same way.
The reality is most probably that one of the wheels on my car costs more than what you drive right now, but I certainly couldnt care less if what you believe this or don't. Why should I? You mean exactly nothing to me and its actually none of your business anyway. Many people on this site have met me in person so go ask them if it interests you that much.
In the mean time, you can read so you can write. If you have issues addressing me by the name you see above, either don't bother repying or if you do, don't expect any kind of reply from me. My time is valuable and Im certainly not going to waste it on people like you.
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