Was I in a position to do a deal here? 41k live event

I played this too and went out oin 26th :(

if i was one of the big stacks i would say no, u are too short to expect a deal there.. if 4 way all even stacked might of had a case...

I'd offer you 3K.

If I were you I'd push every hand for the next 4 or 5 and then ask again.

ur never gonna get a deal here. I went out a9 vs aq sb vs button on the last level last night.

yeh I agree 000000 - if i had 200k i wd have been in a position to negotiate

James Beckton - shame i havent met you or would have said hello - what were u wearing? i think it was a great structured event - you agree?

where was this event by the way plz...

the Vic

i was pushing virtually every hand but unfort the small blind pushed on me every single time so i coudnt get a side up

plus the other three all knew each other and to an extent they used that to their advantage

I had blue top with bright red jumper on and quite messy hair - I am pretty hard to miss tbh.
The table i busted on had Karl Mahrenzollz hit squad guy on and some asian man who had won gukpt Blackpool.
Structure was great and meant you could run a few bluffs through vs people who thought u were a nit!

I lost a 17-18k pot early on vs blackpool winner qq vs aq aipf which if i hadwon wouldve put me in good stead to roll on.

do u normally play tournies dressed as a police car?? :)

no I usually go in my nurse's outfit

Did you play on the same table as the crazy European who wouldn't shut up?

not sure about crazy European player? i was in the back room which was insananely hot, on a table with an older dude with a WSOP cap on, a very fit Albanian girl whose boyfriend was playing on another table, a really amusing Irish older man and others

final table 4 handed was the players u mentioned before - the Blackpool winner and some sponsored guy, other guy was a Vic regular cash player, all decent.

really enjoyed it

they moved me to the ba ck room towards the end of the nighty as the other tables were closed

you should have suggested one.

somethin like 9000, 9000, 7500, 4700

woudla been about right

they werent idiots so I doubt would've made a deal

I didn't say they would have done one...but if he didn't try to get one hes definitely not gonna get one is he?

selling yourself very short taking 4.7K there. I haven't ICMd it, but you should at least aim for 3rd money.

Using this http://www.reviewpokerrooms.com/poker-games/general/tournament-equity.html

without the 4th money in you would get $3400, I think you can probably add $1800 for 4th money as you are probably 50/50 for 4th, and you get $5200. I'd still make 3rd money my objective.

Ah I can work it out from that site.

Pr(x) =1st, 2nd or 3rd = .0961+.1268+.1997 = .4226. Pr(x) =4th = .5776

so your share = 3388 +.5774*3600 = £5466. Don't ever let Lee negotiate for you in my view.

interesting Doobs, next time I will bear that in mind, thanks for the info :)

either way I still doubt they would have accepted a deal

just tried, ICM gives me £3,444 - unless I have used it incorrectly?

Thinly veiled 'I fancied the merkin headed dealer and wanted to remain a few extra hands so I could bum him' thread, imvhac&vmfh&c&vvfho.

Mavis "Hacksaw" Handbag 21 Nov 02:36

Thinly veiled 'I fancied the merkin headed dealer and wanted to remain a few extra hands so I could bum him' thread, imvhac&vmfh&c&vvfho.


Sorry for swearing btw, I'm releasng some tilt, which I acquired earlier.

GG.

fine to attempt a deal here although if they are mates maybe not get it
rule of thumb for a fair deal should be all players get minimum lowest payout then pro rata the remaining prize pool for chip stacks
that would have given you an extra £1500 ish if accepted

Doobs
So he opens with 'I'll take 5.5k you 3 sort out the rest'

What do you think the reaction of other 3 would be?

well i am not going to take a cent less, so I don't really care what their reaction is. What is the worst that can happen?

doobs if they dont agree it doesnt matter - all 4 players have to agree to make the deal - the fact they were mates meant that wasn't gonna happen - if it was 4 randoms i would have asked

lee h2 what happened in th end wih your wsop roi bet with dubai

I passed on my email to him so he could give me the names........never heard a thing from him.

Dam i should have taken the bet i posted on the thread scott clemence would be one of my picks he got a 2nd and a 3rd i think prob would have won the bet on his stats alone.

ofc you were in a position to do a deal. if you good enough at negotiating you can always do a deal if it suits.

couple of years ago in cork 5 handed i had 5bbs left and brokered a deal. 5th was getting 4700 euro and 4th 6700 and somehow maaged to talk them into me getting 8000 and playing on for another 10.

instead of worrying about your stack look at theirs and remind them a couple of hands and a bit of luck can change everthing. always good to ask them what they would be happy with. the chip leader in the deal at cork took 25 so he was happy. when you have found out what they are happy you can obviously barter and dont ever sell yourself short- one or two double ups and you could be in with a chance of a real payday. its always good to leave something to play for as the big stacks then automatically add that to whatever prize they have already agreed because of ego and also they are rightly the favourite to win that.

again in luton last year 4 handed i had 140k another guy had 110 and the two big stacks had over 300 each. i took 10k the shorty took 9k and the biggies took 12 and 13 and we played for 6. as next out was only getting something like 6 it was a fair deal for all. that deal was made easier because it was regular faces and they know they may be the shortstack wanting a deal with you in another tourney but its just nice to lock up a decent ammount.

deal i would suggest in your stacks is
5500
7000
8000
8000 and play for the shrapnel

i would expect to be battered down to
5000
7000
8500
8500
and play for the extra bit.

would be far better to take a shot at a double up though where then you would probably get a 7/7/7/9 split assuming you doubled through one of the chippies.

Well played Rich :D

Whatever happened to Dubai anyway..is he still around?

I remember his other post last year.

2 players left in a pot (cash game) after the flop or turn, can they agree to split the pot without playing it out.

Yes said Dave its 'standard practice' quote.

Dave at the GUKPT Blackpool last week there were up to 8 cash games running all day and night.

To the best of my knowledge it never happened once all week!!

standard practice!!!

thnks Dests :)

fair point Ariston and cheers for info, in retrospect it wd have been wise to at least ask. funny how thin the margins are between a decent payout and a really decent payout - last hand was my a7 against 66, if i win that then it totally changes the picture

another lesson learnt

Lee i think you are mixing up Standard practise with common practise!