no way they have a9 for a start. possible combo draw, but pre action can easily be a set here, infact set looks the clear fav...
even if u think ur up against a good draw... well ur only flipping...
if u cant lay down KK on this board then on what board can you lay KK down at all?!
anyway just checking flop is fine imo in circumstances whenr u are sitting behind opponents like this who are hyper aggs trained to cause maximum carnage on flops like this... :D
no way they have a9 for a start. possible combo draw, but pre action can easily be a set here, infact set looks the clear fav...even if u think ur up against a good draw... well ur only flipping...if u cant lay down KK on this board then on what boar
this is probably why betting flop is better anyway. cause then at least u are up against a 3 and 4 bet rather than just a 3 bet with action back to you. with a bet already u might just get 3 bet/call or 2 calls or something instead of this crrazy betfair flop action.
i miss these games :(
this is probably why betting flop is better anyway. cause then at least u are up against a 3 and 4 bet rather than just a 3 bet with action back to you. with a bet already u might just get 3 bet/call or 2 calls or something instead of this crrazy bet
Speaking of bacon, this morning i cooked myself 3 sausages, 2 toast, 2 fried eggs, 3 bacon, a pot of beans and 5 hash browns :D
OH YEAH!
g'night u peabrained imbeciles.
Speaking of bacon, this morning i cooked myself 3 sausages, 2 toast, 2 fried eggs, 3 bacon, a pot of beans and 5 hash browns :DOH YEAH!g'night u peabrained imbeciles.
Both these 2 are good players imo and therefore you have to be up against either a set or 2 pair or straight and so fold for me.
Why check the flop tho?
Both these 2 are good players imo and therefore you have to be up against either a set or 2 pair or straight and so fold for me.Why check the flop tho?
Possibly a good fold but i sense a bit of scared money, would you have made the same fold at nl200, if u cant afford to drop 1 buy in with kk on that board then i guess your playing too high...
Possibly a good fold but i sense a bit of scared money, would you have made the same fold at nl200, if u cant afford to drop 1 buy in with kk on that board then i guess your playing too high...
I figured ITILTYOU2 would never resist betting on a board like that so why not just let him and check raise him. I was doing a ffs when the reraise came, and I kind of hated folding, but figured one of them would likely have me beat or I would have to dodge a ton of outs.
As it was PressTheSix had 7c8c and ITILTYOU2 had QQ, and they ended up all in on the flop. I congratulated myself on getting away so cheaply and then a K came on the turn and a 5 on the river. I hate it when that happens.
Doobsnit
Good read on the scared money :|I figured ITILTYOU2 would never resist betting on a board like that so why not just let him and check raise him. I was doing a ffs when the reraise came, and I kind of hated folding, but figured one of them would like
What kind of flop do u want to see with kk though, on any flop someone could have a set, that guy got it all in with QQ it was just unlucky the other guy had 78 for the straight, as i said if u cant afford to drop 1 buy in there your obv playing to high....
What kind of flop do u want to see with kk though, on any flop someone could have a set, that guy got it all in with QQ it was just unlucky the other guy had 78 for the straight, as i said if u cant afford to drop 1 buy in there your obv playing to h
mostly down to the 2 pair and straight possibilities too
people love to call raises with suited connectors
had the flop been 35J then it's a no brainer
oh its not just the sets that worry memostly down to the 2 pair and straight possibilities toopeople love to call raises with suited connectorshad the flop been 35J then it's a no brainer
I was thinking afterwards that if pressthesix had just called I could have got in a real mess. I think leading is probably better than check raising as if ITILTYOU2 was going to bluff at this, he would probably reraise me anyway. If only hec ould have found a reraise pre :(
As it was checking worked out best, but probably for the wrong reasons.
And head in hands wasn't meant for Canary, it obviously is the kind of boards that hits a lot of callers at this level pretty hard.
I was thinking afterwards that if pressthesix had just called I could have got in a real mess. I think leading is probably better than check raising as if ITILTYOU2 was going to bluff at this, he would probably reraise me anyway. If only hec ould h
What i was getting at was if dobs was playing nl200 he wouldnt have given up on the hand so easy, if hed had got the money in there he would of been sitting on 3k so it would of been a good move. obv sometimes your gonna be behind to 2 pair or set or the guy drawing to his flush hits but u got to play your hand and not be scared, i hate nits...
What i was getting at was if dobs was playing nl200 he wouldnt have given up on the hand so easy, if hed had got the money in there he would of been sitting on 3k so it would of been a good move. obv sometimes your gonna be behind to 2 pair or set or
given you checked the flop with KK on that board in a raised pot i dont see u doing it with the intention to check raise, so by taking a defensive checking line you should just fold when its on you
i would have bet the pot on the flop personally as checking is giving control of the pot away when you have a hand which could be ahead. often these boards look really scary but a bet can win it, obv if u get a lot of action then u have to fold to another bet
i think its not even a difficult fold the way it played out
given you checked the flop with KK on that board in a raised pot i dont see u doing it with the intention to check raise, so by taking a defensive checking line you should just fold when its on youi would have bet the pot on the flop personally as ch
Show me one of my posts that make no sense, everyone has a right to there own opinion on things or everyone would just play poker like robots and no one would ever make any money. my post here was that doobs was playing with scared money at a level too high, at a lower level he would of stayed with the hand, i dont think he can honestly say he wouldnt...
Show me one of my posts that make no sense, everyone has a right to there own opinion on things or everyone would just play poker like robots and no one would ever make any money. my post here was that doobs was playing with scared money at a level t
Im not bothered whether he plays it regularly or not, it was a weak play cos of the amount of money involved, if he calls the raise and they go to turn he hits set of kings and then the moneys all going in there anyway even though hes still behind to the str8 which we dont know the guys got anyway, the worst case scenario is you lose 1 buy in, i repeat 1 buy in, if your playing at your correct level and bankroll this should be no big deal.....
Im not bothered whether he plays it regularly or not, it was a weak play cos of the amount of money involved, if he calls the raise and they go to turn he hits set of kings and then the moneys all going in there anyway even though hes still behind to
its no about scarred money its about not doing ur money when out of position on a massivley drawing/made board and facing a bet and a reraise before it even gets to u
putting ur wole stack on the line here with KK in a cash game is massively leaky to me
its no about scarred money its about not doing ur money when out of position on a massivley drawing/made board and facing a bet and a reraise before it even gets to uputting ur wole stack on the line here with KK in a cash game is massively leaky to
I never said he has to put whole stack on the line, but to just give up cos some one raises big isnt always best play either, if the regs at this level know hes gonna fold big hands to a massive raise then hes gonna get run over all the time, i can smell scared money a mile away...
I never said he has to put whole stack on the line, but to just give up cos some one raises big isnt always best play either, if the regs at this level know hes gonna fold big hands to a massive raise then hes gonna get run over all the time, i can s
you have $35 invested in the pot and now you reckon he needs to go broke here , sick minds play betfair this is such an auto fold with the stack he is playing even if he is ahead he is probably got a margin of 3 or 6 % , there is so many better opportunities to get your money in total no brainer hu find u can make a case for staying in the hand with 2 other players get out of dodge asap
you have $35 invested in the pot and now you reckon he needs to go broke here , sick minds play betfair this is such an auto fold with the stack he is playing even if he is ahead he is probably got a margin of 3 or 6 % , there is so many better op
sick minds play betfair this is such an auto fold with the stack he is playing
He is playing with 1 normal size buy in he is not sitting with a massive stack, no one has said he has to go broke, but he gave up on the hand cos of the amount of money involved, not questioning his play, each to there own, all i said was if he had been playing at a lower stake he would have continued im sure to the turn at which point the moneys going in...
sick minds play betfair this is such an auto fold with the stack he is playingHe is playing with 1 normal size buy in he is not sitting with a massive stack, no one has said he has to go broke, but he gave up on the hand cos of the amount of money in
100% bet flop. With this action pretty tough. There are a million drawing hands that you are in ok shape against Press The Six and you said the other guy would stab a high % of time so getting it in not too bad. Against tighter players then as played easy fold. Ps. Surprised Press The Six only had the nuts with a draw to a better nuts.
100% bet flop.With this action pretty tough. There are a million drawing hands that you are in ok shape against Press The Six and you said the other guy would stab a high % of time so getting it in not too bad.Against tighter players then as played e