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Ullrich no longer denies of having doped, you'll hardly find an honest winner then, but it's still Lance who officially has 7 wins under his belt. And as of Klöden and T-Mobile, I only write 'Taxi to Freiburg', and was it Patrick Sinkewitz (not sure of the name, they were fast to be forgotten) who also got caught and banned?
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http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/biking/road-biking/My-Life-With-Lance-Armstrong.html?page=all
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1180944/index.htm The article from sports ilustated is amazing reading.Horrible man and to be the spearhead for people hoping to beat cancer makes me sick to my stomach. |
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Greg lemond last drug free winner . Don't think he could understand why they were going so much quicker the year after.
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why do you think Lemond was clean? He came back from the dead almost like Armstrong after the shooting accident. Not even Merckx was without doubt at some stage of his career. My country had a very talented youngster in the late 80ies with a great perspective af becoming a successful tour rider (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietmar_Hauer), who after riding for Tulip one year (1989) quit his international career, because he refused to follow the orders of the team doctors.
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Throughout history cyclists have no doubt doped. However the real performance gains came in the 1990s when the old eastern block scientists came West to share their tricks. From this point on riders started climbing mountains minutes faster then they had previously - reaching it's peak with the frankly silly Armstrong/Pantani years.
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I'd discount at least one part of that. You'd have to be the worst lawyer in the world to consider Floyd Landis as a credible witness.
I do take your point, but not sure he can be dismissed as easily as that - if you haven't read it, the full transcript of the interview Landis did with Paul Kimmage about two years ago is a fascinating read. Landis is pretty frank about his own mistakes and what he did, and comes across as pretty humble about it. He certainly seems a better person than Armstrong, that's for sure. |
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I'd discount at least one part of that. You'd have to be the worst lawyer in the world to consider Floyd Landis as a credible witness.
Oh Dear. What about the other ten (10) members of the team who testified against Lance ? |
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why should Tyler Hamilton be more credible?
But even if he was a doper, who was not in that era, it would be ridiculous to rewrite result lists more than 10 years later, you can't give his TdF wins to Ullrich, Basso and Kloeden as well ![]() |
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There is a programme on Radio 5 this evening starting at 7pm about drugs during the Armstrong era:
Peddlers - Cycling's Dirty Truth "Mark Chapman presents a special programme focusing on drugs in cycling through the Lance Armstrong era. Hear from one of Armstrong's former team mates, Tyler Hamilton, as well as interviews with Dick Pound, the former head of WADA and Emma O'Reilly, Armstrong's former masseuse. Plus British cyclist David Millar who was banned for two years after admitting taking performance enhancing drugs and Christophe Basson, a French cyclist who was driven out of the sport by Armstrong and other riders after he spoke out against drugs." |
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great programme - well worth a listen on iplayer
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Does everyone still think my August 29 post was "a crock of sh1t"?
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/20921004
I wonder how the cult would explain this move if he does cough to it all. |
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No one gives a to55. Every single last one of them were at it. I am just watching his 2000 win. He was and STILL is an INCREDIBLE athlete. People who believe Lance is to blame for the sports problems are as bad as those who believed he was clean in the first place. Im sick of listening to w*nkers like Paul Kimmage and David Walsh who do f**k all except milk the sport for all its worth and look for attention to sell books.....
Best of luck lance......You are a c*nt......but a c*nt who was the greatest rider the Tour has ever seen |
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The article from sports ilustated is amazing reading.Horrible man and to be the spearhead for people hoping to beat cancer makes me sick to my stomach.
What a tragedy that the Tooth fairy and Santa don't exist either. Mike Anderson spouts about "Venegful tactics". Poor Mike, i'm sure he expected Lance to hug him and protect him from the big bad nasty world. Lance is a c**t like Cristiano Ronaldo, like Roy Keane, like Phil Taylor, Like Tiger Woods......like every other top sports man who would sell their closest to win one more title. Greg lemond last drug free winner . Don't think he could understand why they were going so much quicker the year after. Funny how Greg never mentioned this until after Festina. I even saw interview with him in 1996ish where he pontificated about great memories and how amazing the sport was.....no mention of EPO etc... |
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Lance to come clean on Oprah Winfrey?
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He is not into confessions , he is into damage control .
He never had any credibility , but then the world is full of fools , so someone will believe him . Why do you think he chose Oprah , because he knows she is not going to twist his arm , despite the fact that this interview has been labeled as no-holds barred . Yeah , right . Let's make one thing clear first , Oprah has not requested this interview , he set it up . Armstrong has an agenda , and it stinks . Everything coming out of Texas is bigger than usual , Armstrong is just a piece of shyte , and since he hails from Texas , he is just a piece of shyte bigger than usual . |
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He's cheated, he's lied, he's perjured, he's defrauded millions, he's treated people like something he's scraped off his shoe yet the gears are in motion for the smooth transition to Lance Armstrong's career post his "road to Damascus" moment (which only came about in the face of a mountain of undeniable evidence). Even the Reuter's picture being used by the BBC is a contrite facial shot.
"...according to the New York Times source, Armstrong denied the claim that he was the "kingpin" of the doping programme... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-21024288 Someone has seriously misread [or should that be misrepresented?] this situation. The deluded fool seems to think this is going to reduce his ban so that he can compete in triathlons! ( ) Let the sh!t-storm commence - then throw him in jail.Well said to Nicole Cooke btw. Very poignant. Hopefully this is the universal reception he will receive. |
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WAC Cooke is. So easy to moralise now. Pity she didn't have the neck to moan years ago.....she's is a cretin like most of the vermin milking this situation. Lawyers in the us soiling themselves at the prospect of a money trough. One even claiming anyone who donated to laf could sue him for fraud. WAC you'd have to be to do that.
Lance faced the exact same choices every pro cyclist has faced IMHO he is not to blame for the history of the sport despite the fact he is a c**t |
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Pity she didn't have the neck to moan years ago
FFS, do you really need someone to explain why it's not a good idea to spit in the soup ?? |
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Fine I can fully understand not spitting in the soup but its contempt able to hear them whining now. They made their choice to stay silent......,wish they would stay shut now
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Poor Lance. Don't those thoughtless pesky kids realise how much he's spending on his PR team
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I hear he's setting up lancetruthfoundation.org (min 50$ donation)......must have gotten the idea off flloyd |
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I would like to withdraw and apologise to Nicole Cooke for my comments above. I have just read her ENTIRE statement and can honestly say I am sorry for doubting her. Her statement was superb and EVERYTHING we should wish for in sport. Whilst she mentioned Armstrong, she didn't single him out as above.
Best of luck Nicole......You deserve it and thanks for some great memories ![]() |
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Good save ![]() |