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razz
02 Jul 12 04:32
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The biggest rematch in UFC history is finally here!!

July 7th, live on PPV from Las Vegas, Nevada:

Anderson Silva (31-4) vs. Chael Sonnen (27-11-1) [Middleweight Title]

http://sports.betfair.com/?mi=105999049&ex=1&origin=LHMA  The link to the market.

Tito Ortiz (16-10-1) vs. Forrest Griffin (18-7)
Patrick Cote (17-7) vs. Cung Le (7-2)
Dong Hyun Kim (15-1-1, 1 NC) vs. Demian Maia (15-4)
Chad Mendes (11-1) vs. Cody McKenzie (13-2)
Ivan Menjivar (24-8) vs. Mike Easton (12-1)


Fabricio Camoes (14-6-1) vs. Melvin Guillard (29-10-2, 1 NC)
Khabib Nurmagomedov (17-0) vs. Gleison Tibau (25-7)
Riki Fukuda (18-5) vs. Constantinos Philippou (10-2, 1 NC)
John Alessio (34-15) vs. Shane Roller (10-6)
Yoislandy Izquierdo (6-1) vs. Rafaello Oliveira (14-5)

this card looks amazing on paper compared to 147, lots of good match ups and good betting opportunities, not to mention one of the most anticipated fights in history! here's a quick preview.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUOk7lrUM6Q&list=PL181FD7B4DB3F2832&index=1&feature=plpp_video

none of the undercard odds have been released yet, but on the main card i think tito could be pretty good value, i was surprised to see him at 3.5+ on some sites, on bet 3.65 he is currently at 4.00!
this will be tito's last ever mma fight supposedly and i can imagine him having a lot of motivation for this, and he was just inducted into the hall of fame. forrest on the other hand has seemed to lack motivation lately and looked awfull in his rematch with shogun. it kind of seems like his body is giving out on him in my opinion.
tito's boxing has looked a lot better recently which could make it a lot easier for him to set up some takedowns, and dish out some of his brutal GnP from the guard,  i also think stamina could play an important part in this fight, tito made his name through his cardio but at 37 years old its possible that he might struggle a bit. forrest on the other hand is 5 years younger but if he comes into this fight like he did against shogun it's going to be a tough night for him i just hope this rubber match isn't a split decision again. another thing to bear in mind is that tito has had a lot of surgery over the last year or so and he has said that his body is the best it's been in a decade

in the Silva Sonnen fight i think I'm going to avoid betting on it, there's so many different variables since they first fought, such as Sonnen's testosterone suspension, Silva fought with broken a broken rib (supposedly) the first time they fought, Chael has most definitely improved his sub defence, Silva is now 37 years old etc etc
i think Sonnen is going to use the same game plan he used in the first fight, bulrush Silva and hit that power double, i cant see Silva stopping Chael's takedown's at all, and i think Sonnen will be a lot more wary of the triangle when he's grinding Silva down.
on the feet, obviously Silva will have the advantage but he may be thinking about Chael's takedown's, i will be watching closely to see if silva throws any kicks if he does he may be thinking he will most likely be taken down at some stage anyway so its worth the risk of throwing some kicks. many people were surprised when Sonnen rocked Silva with punches twice in the first match, i don't see any reason why he couldn't do that again.
of course silva undoubtedly has the talent and precision to KO pretty much anyone in the blink of an eye which is probably why he's such a big favourite.

as for the rest of the card, i think chad mendes is the biggest lock of the night but the odds haven't been released yet  Sad
maia looks a bit overpriced to me, but i can see why, he's looked pretty bad in his last few fights. cung le vs cote is a hard one to pick, think I'd give the slight edge to le just because he's so well rounded and has the more dynamic striking, however his cardio worries me a bit and he cant go toe to toe with cote as his chin has looked shaky at times too and cote is a hard puncher with an iron chin.
on the undercard I'm going with Guillard and phillipou if their prices are decent when the odds are released

who's everyone else going for Confused
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Report bloomy08 July 8, 2012 4:30 AM BST
lee won...
Report ArmchairIdiot July 8, 2012 4:31 AM BST
**** last round cost Cote. He done fck all. ****.
Report HorseRacingExpert July 8, 2012 4:31 AM BST
cote just as sh1t as ever,fire him again
Report ArmchairIdiot July 8, 2012 4:33 AM BST
30-27!!! all three? Crazy
Report bris1 July 8, 2012 4:34 AM BST
I gave him the 1st and 2nd was close
Report HorseRacingExpert July 8, 2012 4:34 AM BST
le is fooking knackeredLaugh cant even breathe
Report bloomy08 July 8, 2012 4:36 AM BST
ortiz or griffin Confused
Report HorseRacingExpert July 8, 2012 4:38 AM BST
they are both pu ssys,but grif probably knocks him out tonight,tito is long finished
Report ArmchairIdiot July 8, 2012 4:38 AM BST
My luck sukz balls right now, but I cant see how Ortiz can beat Griffin. Grif by ko/tho
Report bloomy08 July 8, 2012 4:41 AM BST
come on Dannas bitch lose...
Report HorseRacingExpert July 8, 2012 4:42 AM BST
he will be fighting tank abbot in a barn somewhere next yearBlush
Report ArmchairIdiot July 8, 2012 4:48 AM BST
Fck my life
Report bloomy08 July 8, 2012 4:52 AM BST
both suck...
Report HorseRacingExpert July 8, 2012 4:58 AM BST
tito exhausted,grif should be 1.01 now
Report ArmchairIdiot July 8, 2012 4:58 AM BST
no KO's here.
Report ArmchairIdiot July 8, 2012 4:59 AM BST
neither have the strength
Report ArmchairIdiot July 8, 2012 5:00 AM BST
lol
Report bris1 July 8, 2012 5:03 AM BST
Titos barely been able to stand up the last few mins
Report ArmchairIdiot July 8, 2012 5:04 AM BST
What the fck is happening?
Report bris1 July 8, 2012 5:05 AM BST
lol
Report ArmchairIdiot July 8, 2012 5:05 AM BST
LOL. Griffin won, surely?
Report ArmchairIdiot July 8, 2012 5:05 AM BST
why did he do a buk?
Report ArmchairIdiot July 8, 2012 5:05 AM BST
*bunk
Report bris1 July 8, 2012 5:06 AM BST
tito matched at 1.5 what are people thinking
Report ArmchairIdiot July 8, 2012 5:06 AM BST
weirdest ending ever. Stormed out the ring on the bell!
Report bris1 July 8, 2012 5:06 AM BST
he was 3.5 before Griffin legged it
Report bris1 July 8, 2012 5:06 AM BST
4.5*
Report ArmchairIdiot July 8, 2012 5:07 AM BST
hahaha!
Report bris1 July 8, 2012 5:07 AM BST
conspiracy theorists and wtf is going on now lol
Report ArmchairIdiot July 8, 2012 5:07 AM BST
he's doing the post fight interview LOL
Report ArmchairIdiot July 8, 2012 5:09 AM BST
Strange chap...
Report HorseRacingExpert July 8, 2012 5:09 AM BST
who the fu ck was backing titoShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughCrazyCrazyCrazyCrazy
Report ArmchairIdiot July 8, 2012 5:10 AM BST
They are out there. Frighening really.
Report HorseRacingExpert July 8, 2012 5:10 AM BST
COME ON CHAELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Excited
Report bris1 July 8, 2012 5:10 AM BST
I guess people thought it was set up for tito to win as his last fight with Griffin doing a runner, can't believe 1.5 was being taken
Report bris1 July 8, 2012 5:11 AM BST
Silva in a couple
Report ArmchairIdiot July 8, 2012 5:12 AM BST
Jacken Hagar by brock neck rnd 1 Laugh
Report HorseRacingExpert July 8, 2012 5:13 AM BST
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I guess people thought it was set up for tito to win as his last fight with Griffin doing a runner, can't believe 1.5 was being taken

MUST BE SOME DRUNK PISSED UP AND JUST GOT IN FROM THE PUB AND IS JUST BASHING ALL THE BUTTONS ON HIS COMPUTER
Report ArmchairIdiot July 8, 2012 5:15 AM BST
Better off bashing something else.
Report bris1 July 8, 2012 5:15 AM BST
lol, another alternate view, though I was watching the odds and he dropped from 4.6 to 1.5 when he left the cage, only other thing I guess is they thought a decision had been announced or something, hence Griffin leaving as he lsot
Report HorseRacingExpert July 8, 2012 5:15 AM BST
this 4/11 would look absolutely huge to me if i had  not of seen the first fight,
Report ArmchairIdiot July 8, 2012 5:16 AM BST
Bisping beat Sonnen. Sonnen loses here
Report HorseRacingExpert July 8, 2012 5:17 AM BST
taking chael by dec,maybe he just has silvas number and the style to beat him
Report map July 8, 2012 5:18 AM BST
do you boys ever sleep? on the horse forum, soccer..you're everywhere
Report ArmchairIdiot July 8, 2012 5:19 AM BST
LOL. Not tonight Map
Report HorseRacingExpert July 8, 2012 5:19 AM BST
be asleep after this and up for the tennis,will catch up with a nice 14 hour sleep tonight
Report ArmchairIdiot July 8, 2012 5:20 AM BST
14 hours lol. Id wake up in a right state after 14 hours!
Report map July 8, 2012 5:20 AM BST
yea il be up for the tennis
Report map July 8, 2012 5:20 AM BST
looking at Fed 3-0 and Fed -5.5 games
Report HorseRacingExpert July 8, 2012 5:20 AM BST
silva has promised brazilian tv a 1st round KOPlain
Report map July 8, 2012 5:20 AM BST
fed fan as it is..didnt think he';d beat djoko but now he has..well murray isnt nothing
Report map July 8, 2012 5:21 AM BST
im on Chael Sonnen @ 11/4
Report map July 8, 2012 5:21 AM BST
had griffin by DEC OR TECH DEC so 1/2 so far
Report HorseRacingExpert July 8, 2012 5:21 AM BST
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looking at Fed 3-0 and Fed -5.5 games

3-0 or 3-1 for sure and -5.5 is safe bet
Report bris1 July 8, 2012 5:22 AM BST
expecting Silva to end it early but would like a repeat of the first
Report map July 8, 2012 5:22 AM BST
yea i liked -5.5 - i was surprised by the odds?!
Report map July 8, 2012 5:22 AM BST
Im hoping Silvia gets beat or at least i can get out shorter
Report ArmchairIdiot July 8, 2012 5:23 AM BST
Silva by decision bigger than Sonnen bt dec? CrazyCrazy
Report map July 8, 2012 5:23 AM BST
Horse - you seen the prices then?
Report map July 8, 2012 5:24 AM BST
Federer -3.5 Games
just over 4/5 1.81 ?! fed -5.5 2.6
Report bris1 July 8, 2012 5:24 AM BST
probably because if Silva is on top winning rounds he'll get the stoppage if that makes sense
Report map July 8, 2012 5:24 AM BST
the -3.5 1.81 seems HUGE
Report ArmchairIdiot July 8, 2012 5:25 AM BST
Silva by decision for me. Great value
Report map July 8, 2012 5:25 AM BST
price?
Report ArmchairIdiot July 8, 2012 5:25 AM BST
9's
Report map July 8, 2012 5:25 AM BST
8/1 hm
Report bris1 July 8, 2012 5:25 AM BST
least likely outcome imo
Report bris1 July 8, 2012 5:26 AM BST
which means you will now hit it, lol
Report map July 8, 2012 5:26 AM BST
come on Sonnen
Report ArmchairIdiot July 8, 2012 5:26 AM BST
Great value loser!Laugh
Report map July 8, 2012 5:26 AM BST
25 quid @ 11/4 would help todays punting
Report map July 8, 2012 5:26 AM BST
the values with fed exoress -3.5 games @ 1.81 get on
Report ArmchairIdiot July 8, 2012 5:31 AM BST
1-0 Sonnen
Report razz July 8, 2012 5:31 AM BST
wow ominous signs for silva after round 1!
Report bris1 July 8, 2012 5:33 AM BST
illegal knee?
Report map July 8, 2012 5:34 AM BST
yea i thought so
Report ArmchairIdiot July 8, 2012 5:34 AM BST
lol
Report HorseRacingExpert July 8, 2012 5:34 AM BST
ffs a knee to a downed opponent started all thatMischief
Report ArmchairIdiot July 8, 2012 5:34 AM BST
Did the illegal knee do it...?
Report bris1 July 8, 2012 5:35 AM BST
meh, maybe not then
Report ArmchairIdiot July 8, 2012 5:35 AM BST
LEGIT
Report razz July 8, 2012 5:35 AM BST
wow! that wasnt illegal !
Report map July 8, 2012 5:35 AM BST
well it was still pretty unlucky..he slipped when trying to do that spin kick
Report HorseRacingExpert July 8, 2012 5:35 AM BST
stopped to early and chael quit like a pu ssy there also,very disappointed
Report razz July 8, 2012 5:36 AM BST
amazed he stopped the power double from chael! no denying the great man though
Report ArmchairIdiot July 8, 2012 5:40 AM BST
Sonnen has never felt a bigger knob since the last time he fought Bisping!
Report bris1 July 8, 2012 5:41 AM BST
Lol, it's worse because it all came from him falling over, though I do like him, hope he sticks around, should rematch Bisping
Report razz July 8, 2012 5:42 AM BST
oh ffs now we have to hear from steven segall at some point...
Report ArmchairIdiot July 8, 2012 5:43 AM BST
it was a shame his demise started from a failed spinning fist, anding up in a heap on the floor!
Report razz July 8, 2012 5:43 AM BST
seemed a bit of a strange ending tbh
Report HorseRacingExpert July 8, 2012 5:43 AM BST
casey ribeck
Report Diavolo0 July 8, 2012 5:44 AM BST
Guessing Chael wont be taking the barbecue offer up.
Report bris1 July 8, 2012 5:45 AM BST
well, maybe if Silvas wife cooks him a steak he will
Report ArmchairIdiot July 8, 2012 5:46 AM BST
Sonnen wants to crawl under a rock and stay there I suspect.
Report ArmchairIdiot July 8, 2012 5:47 AM BST
a night of strange endings really. Disapponiting all in all.
Report Diavolo0 July 8, 2012 5:47 AM BST
Ha ha, only if anderson tenderises it first
Report ArmchairIdiot July 8, 2012 5:47 AM BST
with his knob
Report ArmchairIdiot July 8, 2012 5:48 AM BST
Or Chaels face
Report EastLower Gooner July 8, 2012 2:20 PM BST
The stupid Spinning Backfist attempt is what started it....spun, Silva stepped away and Sonned fell on his arse....gave over after that.
Report HorseRacingExpert July 8, 2012 7:37 PM BST
http://youtu.be/DbOdkEFvd-w


tito seething in the post fight press conf,thinks he won the fight easilyCrazyCrazyCrazyCrazy
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