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razz
01 Feb 12 19:52
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Interim Welterweight Championship bout:  Nick Diaz vs.  Carlos Condit
Heavyweight bout:  Roy Nelson vs.  Fabricio Werdum
Welterweight bout:  Josh Koscheck vs.  Mike Pierce
Bantamweight bout:  Renan Barão vs.  Scott Jorgensen
Middleweight bout:  Ed Herman vs.  Clifford Starks

Preliminary card (FX)
Featherweight bout:  Dustin Poirier vs.  Max Holloway
Welterweight bout:  Matthew Riddle vs.  Henry Martinez
Bantamweight bout:  Alex Caceres vs.  Edwin Figueroa
Welterweight bout:  Matt Brown vs.  Chris Cope

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Welterweight bout:  Dan Stittgen vs.  Stephen Thompson
Middleweight bout:  Rafael Natal vs.  Michael Kuiper

Diaz/Condit!! 5 rounds of non stop fight of the night awesomeness!!! where both guys are coming to try and take the other one out, i gotta go with Diaz, his boxing is on another level, he just has to be careful of the first couple of rounds where Condit is going to be the most dangerous and his knock-out power  which could cause Diaz problems if he isn't to careful. I think Carlos is going to be utilising a lot of leg kicks as we have seen Diaz hit by them before even though it's never stopped him winning, I'm not sure Carlos will be able to take Diaz down either and even if he does Nick should be able to control the tempo on the ground or choose to get back up.
I cant wait to see the extra 2 rounds as well and who's cardio will come out on top, logic says Diaz, but Carlos has fantastic cardio too, i think Condit may underestimate Nick's punching power, and the sheer amount of punches Diaz throws can quickly overwhelm any fighter, Condit will probably fire back with huge power punches but those i can see wearing him out over the course of the fight.

Werdum vs Nelson will be very interesting, I'm leaning towards Werdum but I think it will be to close to call so I'm leaving this. i can't see koscheck losing to pierce, so i might have a small bet on that .
a good bet I've noticed is scot jorgensen vs renan barao at 5/1 with sportingbet to be fight of the night, worth a bet if Diaz v Condit ends quickly or is a complete whitewash for 1 guy.
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Report Biscar Two from a mile back February 2, 2012 8:58 AM GMT
fwiw Big Roy looks like he has shifted a bit of timber round the middle might be one guy that wont mind being in werdums guard
Report r2r February 4, 2012 3:02 PM GMT
diaz by tko and koscheck for me, was gonna go for werdum too, but think I might avoid that one now
Report EastLower Gooner February 4, 2012 4:10 PM GMT
Barao is a beast and will give Cruz a serious fight. Awesome power in his hands and very slick submissions.
Report mehmet j mook February 4, 2012 4:23 PM GMT
im having a larl dabble on big roy ko of the night at 14s,never really rated werdum,think hes a bit heartless and roy packs serious power and will keep swinging till the very last seconds.

kos and diaz should both win.
Report razz February 4, 2012 11:46 PM GMT
will betfair screw up the markets this time? or can they refrain from pressing the suspend button hours before the fights? Confused anyone know when the prelims start?
Report mehmet j mook February 5, 2012 12:03 AM GMT
any minute now,my sky isnt working,gona have to watch on my laptop tonight,typical,
Report razz February 5, 2012 12:05 AM GMT
starting now on facebook.
Report razz February 5, 2012 12:06 AM GMT
oh yeah ESPN is free for tonight apparently so if you dont subscribe to ESPN normally you should be able to watch tonight for free
Report mehmet j mook February 5, 2012 12:18 AM GMT
i subscribe to it but my whole sky isnt working,must be something to do with the weather.

There goes my ko of the night bet
Report razz February 5, 2012 12:18 AM GMT
woah steve thompson with an amazing headkick ko, amazing technique
Report razz February 5, 2012 1:50 AM GMT
nice finish from matt brown
Report razz February 5, 2012 2:15 AM GMT
figueroa trying to milk some extra points from the low blows
Report bris1 February 5, 2012 2:21 AM GMT
well it worked, lol, but i still think Caceres is going to win, whether he finishes him or not
Report razz February 5, 2012 2:28 AM GMT
2 points was too far, im sure the blows took a lot out of him but that should be 1 point maximum for caceres, i reckon it'll be 28-27 to figueroa
Report bris1 February 5, 2012 2:34 AM GMT
still had it 28-27 for Caceres but the first could of gone either way. If theres a rematch Caceres should just take him down from the start
Report razz February 5, 2012 2:36 AM GMT
yeah i thought leeroy won too, just thought the judges would give it to  edwin based on the round 1 knockdown
Report bris1 February 5, 2012 2:38 AM GMT
yeah can't argue with that and with Dean taking the 2 points he was at a big disadvantage, 1 would of been fair I think.
Report razz February 5, 2012 3:02 AM GMT
the new intro was pretty cool, but it aint no gladiator intro Silly
Report boycie1 February 5, 2012 3:09 AM GMT
Aye i liked it, anythins better than foxs coverage last week, Jon Jones having to look at his notes every two mins! Cant wait to see these 2 batter eachother(Condit/Diaz)
Report razz February 5, 2012 3:14 AM GMT
yeah you could tell jones had never presented before, but it does take some getting used to lol.
Report razz February 5, 2012 3:27 AM GMT
nice sub by herman, pissed of with betfair though they wouldnt let me cancel a bet i put in on starks before he was in trouble
Report boycie1 February 5, 2012 3:31 AM GMT
Who do ye reckon in this one/
Report bris1 February 5, 2012 3:34 AM GMT
barao, but no money on it
Report razz February 5, 2012 3:35 AM GMT
barao but jorgensten has been looking good of late, i reckon it'll depend on barao's takedown defence, only a small bet on barao
Report razz February 5, 2012 3:44 AM GMT
barao's got this unless he makes a HUGE mistake imo, owned rnd 1
Report razz February 5, 2012 4:03 AM GMT
i can see barao being champion one day. kos should win this too but no bet for me
Report razz February 5, 2012 4:19 AM GMT
these odds in play are a joke 3.5 for pierce after these close 2 rounds?!!
Report razz February 5, 2012 4:19 AM GMT
i got it at least 1 round each, maybe both for pierce
Report bris1 February 5, 2012 4:21 AM GMT
missed the first thought Koscheck may of sneaked the 2nd
Report razz February 5, 2012 4:22 AM GMT
probably did in the judges eyes with that takedown
Report bris1 February 5, 2012 4:26 AM GMT
yep thats why i gave it to him, close fight though
Report razz February 5, 2012 4:27 AM GMT
kos 1.3 at the end of the fight!! stupid price lol, should be 1.75 minimum
Report bris1 February 5, 2012 4:31 AM GMT
fancy Nelson here but the money seems to of been for Werdum
Report razz February 5, 2012 4:34 AM GMT
after seeing the weigh in im leaning towards nelson now too, he looked a lot more muscular than iv'e seen him before, his price has drifted from 2.2 to 2.6 now could be a decent bet
Report bris1 February 5, 2012 4:36 AM GMT
Took 2.3 earlier in the week as i thought it was value then, lol.
Report razz February 5, 2012 4:39 AM GMT
that's got to be the biggest mullet in sports today Laugh
Report razz February 5, 2012 4:53 AM GMT
werdum looks a bit gassed
Report Oddsock February 5, 2012 4:59 AM GMT
I can never back against Nelson even when I think he'll lose. He's cost me money yet again but I love him more after every fight. It's just unreal how much damage he can take and still throw bombs that could end the fight. Go Big Country!
Report razz February 5, 2012 5:01 AM GMT
yeah great guy, werdum looked really good though. nelson is a top 10 guy and he dismantled him
Report bris1 February 5, 2012 5:02 AM GMT
good performance from both guys
Report Oddsock February 5, 2012 5:07 AM GMT
This should be a corker of a fight. Been really looking forward to this. Love watching Diaz and he should win but Condit is no mug. Didn't expect to see Condit trading at 2/1, it's almost tempting.
Report razz February 5, 2012 5:10 AM GMT
yeah i can't see how this isnt going to be an amazing fight, really pumped for this one Excited im big on diaz at 1.6, i'd lay anything below 1.5 though diaz is sure to trade higher than that in the first round!! condit's going to be landing harder punches before he gets warn down
Report razz February 5, 2012 5:24 AM GMT
hmm i thought the 1st round would be closer than that. diaz looking good so far, terrible gameplan from condit, the low kicks dont really hurt diaz
Report razz February 5, 2012 5:26 AM GMT
i wonder how the judges score all this trash talking? condit's  getting tooled in that department Laugh
Report bris1 February 5, 2012 5:26 AM GMT
Condit must be getting dizzy
Report razz February 5, 2012 5:30 AM GMT
interesting that greg jackson appears to have given a pretty comprehensive gameplan to condit to follow, when every other fight i've seen carlos fight he's just gone out there and done his own thing
Report bris1 February 5, 2012 5:35 AM GMT
interesting fight
Report bris1 February 5, 2012 5:36 AM GMT
2-1 Condit...?
Report razz February 5, 2012 5:38 AM GMT
i got it 2-1 diaz, **** knows how the judges are viewing it though, diaz has been pressing forward constantly though that could be a big factor
Report bris1 February 5, 2012 5:39 AM GMT
pressing forward but not really landed anything, Condits tactics are negative though
Report razz February 5, 2012 5:40 AM GMT
it is quite noticible that condit is running away a lot though , probably 2-2 after the 4th
Report razz February 5, 2012 5:41 AM GMT
diaz could of stolen a couple of these rounds if he just threw some more punches
Report bris1 February 5, 2012 5:42 AM GMT
yeah cant argue that, no sure how it will go down with the judges scoring, though I find it hard to give Diaz rounds when his coming forward means hes walking into Condits strikes
Report razz February 5, 2012 5:45 AM GMT
diaz is throwing this away
Report razz February 5, 2012 5:48 AM GMT
hmm diaz stole the last round i got it 48-47 diaz but it could easily go the other way
Report Oddsock February 5, 2012 5:49 AM GMT
I'd have to give the fight to Condit, but I'll be happy if Diaz gets it.
Report bris1 February 5, 2012 5:49 AM GMT
i got it the other way for Condit lol, don't like his tactics but i think giving it to Diaz would be a poor decision
Report bris1 February 5, 2012 5:50 AM GMT
apart from the first round and the last 90 seconds Condit was the better fighter
Report Oddsock February 5, 2012 5:52 AM GMT
£604 traded at 4 on Condit. GSP looks gutted - he wanted the Diaz fight badly.
Report bris1 February 5, 2012 5:53 AM GMT
Diaz was aggressive, but it wasn't effective
Report bris1 February 5, 2012 5:54 AM GMT
Diaz v GSP would be a better fight
Report razz February 5, 2012 5:54 AM GMT
condit will get destroyed by gsp
Report Oddsock February 5, 2012 5:56 AM GMT
And then after Condit loses to GSP, maybe Diaz will get his shot? He ain't retiring..
Report bris1 February 5, 2012 5:58 AM GMT
I thought he was going to say he was going to move over to boxing
Report razz February 5, 2012 5:59 AM GMT
yeah looking back condit probably did win, i doubt diaz will get past the wave of wrestlers who are emerging at ww atm. no idea what he's going to do now though, condit wont be holding that title to long if he fights before gsp comes back
Report EastLower Gooner February 5, 2012 1:48 PM GMT
Had Diaz 1,2 and 5 with Condit 3 and 4. That said I could see why a judge would flip the other way.

GSP wont be ready to fight till November so anything can happen between now and then.

Barao is a beast. Wonderboy is top class...hopefully he can KO a few of these wreslters.

new intro is good to watch but the music sucks.
Report mehmet j mook February 5, 2012 9:10 PM GMT
i had condit winning every single round untill diaz took his back in the 5th 49-46 condit. Good decision for me.
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