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This is a Fred to discuss whether there is any value in taking an antepost position in the 2012 tdf.
With a course setup that would seem to favour mountain goats and TT specialists it's easy to see why the bookies are not taking any chances on Contador, but is there any value in anyone at a price? I think there are a few people who could do well this year. It seems Basso could well ride for Nibali which would possibly make 50/1 on the latter a decent each way shout, and B365 have some interesting prices on some runners in their w/o Contador market.
It might be too early for match bets at this stage but Evans (4/7) v Wiggins and Sanchez (4/6) v Basso looks like a decent double.
Anyone had a punt yet?
With a course setup that would seem to favour mountain goats and TT specialists it's easy to see why the bookies are not taking any chances on Contador, but is there any value in anyone at a price? I think there are a few people who could do well this year. It seems Basso could well ride for Nibali which would possibly make 50/1 on the latter a decent each way shout, and B365 have some interesting prices on some runners in their w/o Contador market.
It might be too early for match bets at this stage but Evans (4/7) v Wiggins and Sanchez (4/6) v Basso looks like a decent double.
Anyone had a punt yet?
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B365 allowed me a colossal £0.66 ew on their 1500/1 Arnold Jeannesson without Contador, but I have taken 200/1 Tom Danielson and Rein Taaramae, and 300/1 Jerome Coppel to bigger stakes
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What sort of value could you possibly be after, if betting shops are only allowing such small wagers, marychain1? I mean, let's say Joe Todger is 3000/1 and no one knows but he is the next Marco Pantani -- the value - or rather the amount they will payout - will only become half of what has been allowed on the bet you've mentioned, since he is worth twice as much.
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As per usual, despite reading your post several times, I have absolutely no idea what you are trying to say.
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Never mind, best wishes, SP.
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Current price guide
| Alberto Contador | 2.5 | | Andy Schleck | 5.5 | | Cadel Evans | 7 | | Bradley Wiggins | 15 | | Chris Froome | 41 | | Jurgen Van Den Broeck | 51 | | Vincenzo Nibali | 51 | | Denis Menchov | 67 | | Samuel Sanchez | 67 | | Alejandro Valverde | 81 | | Frank Schleck | 81 | | Ivan Basso | 81 | | Jani Brajkovic | 81 | | Robert Gesink | 81 | | Andreas Kloden | 101 | | Juan Jose Cobo | 101 | | Pierre Rolland | 101 | | Tony Martin | 101 | | Carlos Sastre | 151 | | Chris Horner | 201 | | Levi Leipheimer | 201 | | Reine Taaramae | 201 | | Roman Kreuziger | 201 | | Damiano Cunego | 251 | | Jakob Fuglsang | 251 | | Jean-Christophe Peraud | 251 | | Kevin De Weert | 251 | | Michele Scarponi | 251 | | Nicolas Roche | 251 | | Peter Velits | 251 | | Rigoberto Uran | 251 | | Tom Danielson | 251 | | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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GoBallistic mate - from where? SP.
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Oddschecker best prices
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Nice one mate, thanks. SP.
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I'd like to see Betfair open a market soon!
If Contador gets a ban .... which is quite possible then there is some great value out there; e.g. Wiggo at 14-1. Even if Contador doesn't get a ban, his cloak of invincibility is definitely not as strong as it was. I'd like to see Betfair to lay Andy Schlek ... 10-1 anyone?! Not a hope! IMO Sanchez can't timetrial well enough. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Ooops. Double post. I had £2 on Cancellara at 1000-1 but wanted £5. About that chance but sure can Timetrial and climbed reasonably last year.
Wanted £200 at 14-1 on Wiggo bit BluSq only let me have £10.50 and bwin £27.98 (??). Going to need 17 accounts at this rate!! | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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cancellara will lose 3x25 minutes on at least 3 of the mountain stages......if you cant climb steep and endless gradients you have zero chance in mountain obsessed grand tours.
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Chris Froome is three times the price of Wiggins. That seems an anomaly to me. Not that I think Froome will win (I think he's too nice). More that I think Wiggins won't win. Those Vuelta memories remain strong.
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Based on the prices that Go Ballistic has put up the rider I'd be most interested in is Pierre Roland, A good climber (won on D'Huez this year) and a respectable final time trial so 100/1 looks decent value for him as He should still be improving at his youngish age although the burden of being the next great french hope might weigh him down.
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Have gone for Tony Martin [for a podium spot] at 150/1.
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A bit like my Cancellara bet ..... mountains will be a problem.
Contador hearing result Jan 14th/15th. The market is going to get a big shake up if Contador is kicked out (6/4 best price). Whoever you fancy, get a bet on now. I'm still laying Andy Schleck .... 8-1 anyone?! | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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firstly ,no chance of alberto being banned, as for backing fabian to win or top 3 in tour ,is fantasy .taaramae, van den broeck or maybe froome,if he rides,are the big value e-w,still think contador will win as he will not be silly enough to do giro again, hey but what do i know
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Will Froome not ride the Vuelta again? Not sure he and Wiggins will be in the Sky team.
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Beware, some of the markets available are not antepost. They will make Rule 4 deductions when riders are not in the starting line up. Paddy Power have the decency to state this clearly. Some other bookies have buried it deep in their rules. Do your research.
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On Wiggo 16/1ew, Martin 150/1ew and like the look of some of the outsiders mentioned here. Evans feels too short even if he looks good on paper.
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Had a dabble today after the Bertie ban, trying to take advantage a little.
Stable up to now is... Gesink 33/1 Van Den Broeck 33/1 Kreuziger 250/1 Uran 300/1 Van Garderen 330/1 Sagan 400/1 Lots more to follow | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Andy Shrek and his brother have been awful tactically past 2 years, if they get their tactics/heads straight then I see AS winning (much as i want cuddles to win again).
I dont do outright on GC though, they all need to travel a good few miles to get to finish, and as last year proved thats easier said than done, I much prefer betting stage to stage. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Updated best price guide
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joemc eat your words!
I will still lay Schlecks. They are nowhere near time-trialling skills of Evans and Wiggo. Froome probably Vuelta bound. Some youngster to make a break-through? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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agree Schleck is a massive lay at 7/2
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"firstly ,no chance of alberto being banned, as for backing fabian to win or top 3 in tour ,is fantasy .taaramae, van den broeck or maybe froome,if he rides,are the big value e-w,still think contador will win as he will not be silly enough to do giro again, hey but what do i know"
you said it joe Froome is Sky's best chance to win the Tour de France, Roche says... and I would agree but only if Wiggins doesn't make the line up as Froome seems content to be his servant. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Nibali at 33/1 is one I would be interested in. Heard somewhere that he will concentrate on the TDF and Basso will ride the Giro, or if he does ride the TDF it will be in support of Nibali. He has a good record in Grand Tours, is young enough to be still improving and has the combination of climbing and time trialling needed this year.
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Froome had a good time trial in the Vuelta but in general, he can't hold a candle to Wiggo in the tts. Climbing: not too much in it. Froome only had the edge in the Vuelta when it got to silly gradients like 1:4 and 1:5. On Power figures through the winter, Sky can't believe Wiggo's numbers. Are people just trying to bump Wiggo's price up here?!
Cancellara climbed well up Oman's only mountain. My two quid sitting happy at 1000-1. Maybe I can lay it at 500s and make 50p!!?? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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The only reason Wiggins managed to cling on in the mountains of the Vuelta was that Froome was hauling him up. That was on every mountain stage and not just the crazy gradients. As soon as he was given permission Froome left Wiggins for dead.
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Had a lump on Valverde. Movistar will surely play their big guns at the Tour knowing that Bertie will be back for the Vuelta.
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red and white: what about Stage 11 of the Vuelta (HC finish) where Wiggins rode away from Froome - hardly hauling him up. Froome only took time out of him last week but Wiggo not full condition cos of his collarbone. 6-1 wiggins (with ****) is worth a lump especially considering 2012 form.
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Any of you guys cycle?
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I ride a few races and TTs. Got a Canyon CF SLX, Trek TTX and Spec Stumpy.
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I see Bet Victor have odds available for a Top 10 placing..... I think Tarramae is a bit of value at 16-1
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Specialized allez triple 2011 or the Claud Butler san remo.
I am looking to start up cycling again and have these two priced up at around £550. Any advice on which is the better bike? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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thought it would be Brad-mania on here today.....
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The more hype the better.
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I've just bought a Specialized Allez Sport for £585, really enjoying being out on it
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I cant find a market on here? noticed wiggins is 3/1 with L@dbrokes, far too short imo, i want to lay, wheres the market?
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The market won't go up till June judging by the last few years
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