Good morning Other Sporters. First, please accept my apology for posting this thread here but this looks a relatively quiet and friendly forum. As you may know, the football forum tends to be more inclined to chat rather than betting and having ignored requests for many years to spilt football into chat and betting, Betfair have done a disservice to those who don't want to be a part of the tedium that prevails. Hopefully just using a single thread to discuss football betting will not disturb regular contributors to this forum and obviously if the type of people that this is intended to avoid gravitate here then we'll shut it down and let the thread drop. Best of luck to all for the forthcoming season. :)
Anyone think odds against for Barca on Wednesday is tremendous value given our record against the bigger side this season ?
Iniesta will be missing for them, he pulled a Ham String.
Anyone think odds against for Barca on Wednesday is tremendous value given our record against the bigger side this season ?Iniesta will be missing for them, he pulled a Ham String.
It'll be a shoot out, sint. Barca are not defending especially well and it might be because of the missing midfielders rather than the actual back four. Although they have had two holders from Yaya, Busquets and Keita they have still looked more vulnerable and it's probably simply because they are not tearing sides apart, hence the opponents remain in the game and not wondering how the hell to get a touch of the ball.
Arsenal need to get at the back four with pace.
It'll be a shoot out, sint. Barca are not defending especially well and it might be because of the missing midfielders rather than the actual back four. Although they have had two holders from Yaya, Busquets and Keita they have still looked more v
Afternoon lads, havent been in here for a while. Trust you are all well.
Fancy Utd myself too. Had a go at them at 6/4. My main fancy is Utd clean sheet at 3.25.
Cheers
Afternoon lads, havent been in here for a while. Trust you are all well. Fancy Utd myself too. Had a go at them at 6/4. My main fancy is Utd clean sheet at 3.25.Cheers
I have baked overs so could do with Bayern notching! Also backed Evra anytime on here @ 30.
2-2 and up at Watford in their 6 pointer with that mob from Smellhurst.
Holding fire on the same bet at Accrington pending that one getting the go ahead.
I have baked overs so could do with Bayern notching! Also backed Evra anytime on here @ 30. 2-2 and up at Watford in their 6 pointer with that mob from Smellhurst.Holding fire on the same bet at Accrington pending that one getting the go ahead.
i clearly haven't learnt the lesson of "never underestimate the Germans" yet. ;\
was looking at Hills website :|yeah had a bit of that to go with my 6/4 United.i clearly haven't learnt the lesson of "never underestimate the Germans" yet. ;\
Poor performance imo. Didn't turn up 2nd half, not what one expects from United. Thanks for the late one though!
Arse v Barca. Hope it's as good as it looks on paper. :)
Poor performance imo. Didn't turn up 2nd half, not what one expects from United. Thanks for the late one though!Arse v Barca. Hope it's as good as it looks on paper. :)
Played the 2-2 and up at Hamburg and the same at Brighton but on BHA to win as well. Will have a bet at Valencia once the teams are in. They were utter filth at Zaragoza but expect to see Villa and Silva return tonight, but no Navarro, Marchena etc so have to be vulnerable defensively. Shame JAR is out for Atletico, he has been fantastic recently.
Played the 2-2 and up at Hamburg and the same at Brighton but on BHA to win as well. Will have a bet at Valencia once the teams are in. They were utter filth at Zaragoza but expect to see Villa and Silva return tonight, but no Navarro, Marchena etc
I thought Liverpool were a tadge unlucky last night. Rafa's tactics are appaling but it was working until the ridiculous decision to send Babel off. Pablo Aimar was a little bit g-ay for that penalty claim,too.
Angel Di Maria looks a decent player in the making. I remember Wenger tried to sign him a couple of summers back but it fell through, probably finance. But he looks very classy to me.
Well done Cgull, 2 from 3 winners was it ?I thought Liverpool were a tadge unlucky last night. Rafa's tactics are appaling but it was working until the ridiculous decision to send Babel off. Pablo Aimar was a little bit g-ay for that penalty claim,to
I missed last night's Barca game but gather they were in top form winning 4-1. Ibrahimovic injured himself in the warm-up and will miss the game.
Alreet,Alex.I missed last night's Barca game but gather they were in top form winning 4-1. Ibrahimovic injured himself in the warm-up and will miss the game.
Cant wait for this game tonight.... cant remember enjoying a game as much as the first leg. Havent decided on bets yet but hafter that first half performance, its pretty hard to ignore Barca HT / FT at Evs...
Cant wait for this game tonight.... cant remember enjoying a game as much as the first leg. Havent decided on bets yet but hafter that first half performance, its pretty hard to ignore Barca HT / FT at Evs...
I'm glad someone is looking forward to it! We could get b1tchslapped tonight.
Nasri is not a bad shout CCM he's been playing well lately. I've not looked at any odds yet but will look for Vermaelen and young Theo :)
I'm glad someone is looking forward to it! We could get b1tchslapped tonight.Nasri is not a bad shout CCM he's been playing well lately. I've not looked at any odds yet but will look for Vermaelen and young Theo :)
Draw 2-2 @ 22/1 and Vermaelen AGS 10/1 small pokes for me.
Barca -1.5 at Evens, aint bad for a heavy hitters bet imo. Not hard to imagine them winning by two clear goals, is it ?
Draw 2-2 @ 22/1 and Vermaelen AGS 10/1 small pokes for me.Barca -1.5 at Evens, aint bad for a heavy hitters bet imo. Not hard to imagine them winning by two clear goals, is it ?
Bayern will surely score tonight and kncok Utd out ? Thought they put in a very hard working display last time and got on top of Utd's midfield. Will Fergie start with Scholes again ? He's a Red card waiting to happen imo but gets away with it.
Bayern will surely score tonight and kncok Utd out ? Thought they put in a very hard working display last time and got on top of Utd's midfield. Will Fergie start with Scholes again ? He's a Red card waiting to happen imo but gets away with it.
cgull 22 Apr 14:41 Alex, saw your post on the Brighton Pavilion seat. It may interest you that there is a poll on the BHA fans' site, North Stand Chat on that one.
I would have thought that a poll within the gay community would be most relevant for that seat. Or are you telling me something about BHA supporters?
cgull 22 Apr 14:41 Alex, saw your post on the Brighton Pavilion seat. It may interest you that there is a poll on the BHA fans' site, North Stand Chat on that one.I would have thought that a poll within the gay community would be most relevant
You may have a point insofar as that voters who have moved to Brighton may have done so because of their sexuality and therefore may not be Brighton supporters. (Aren't THEY all in Kemp Town though?!) But it is interesting that the Greens top that poll despite previous objection to Falmer although Caroline Lucas has distanced herself from that. I think they area stick on for the seat tbh.
You may have a point insofar as that voters who have moved to Brighton may have done so because of their sexuality and therefore may not be Brighton supporters. (Aren't THEY all in Kemp Town though?!) But it is interesting that the Greens top that
Just seen your post! You can get my e-mail address from HWB if you wish. I asked Tricky when I saw your post about Brighton pavilion but he didn't answer so I asked HWB as well. How am i talking in riddles?! I think the Greens are a stick on for the seat is pretty clear isn't it?
Just seen your post! You can get my e-mail address from HWB if you wish. I asked Tricky when I saw your post about Brighton pavilion but he didn't answer so I asked HWB as well. How am i talking in riddles?! I think the Greens are a stick on for
Greens to win, yes? And thanks for that. I have been playing the odds for greens to win a seat and then Brighton Pavilion and concluding that they might actually get the gig.
You could always add me to Im instead of using HWB and Tricks to give me messages. It could be handy too when I have something valuable to say which is rare I will admit but it does occur from time to time.
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Greens to win, yes? And thanks for that. I have been playing the odds for greens to win a seat and then Brighton Pavilion and concluding that they might actually get the gig.You could always add me to Im instead of using HWB and Tricks to give me m
He may miss the Wc :0 with a muscle tear. At least Cesc will be nice and rested.
Had a small bet on Charles N`Zogbia anytime goal scorer vs Hull today. Hull have lost all their away games this season, and twice against Wigan. N`Zogbia is their Most Valuable Player on the dream team Stats and scored last time out vs us. 4/1 on BF top price 3/1 at bookies.
He may miss the Wc :0 with a muscle tear. At least Cesc will be nice and rested.Had a small bet on Charles N`Zogbia anytime goal scorer vs Hull today. Hull have lost all their away games this season, and twice against Wigan. N`Zogbia is their Most Va
I see that Fran Merida is off the Althletico Madrid. Buena suerte
I don't know whether anybody has noticed but England play Mexico tonight. I am thinking that England look too short on the match odds at 1.47-1.48. FT unders are value and HT overs are value which is a bit bizarre as they normally follow each other. That is far as I have got at the moment, more could follow.
I see that Fran Merida is off the Althletico Madrid. Buena suerteI don't know whether anybody has noticed but England play Mexico tonight. I am thinking that England look too short on the match odds at 1.47-1.48. FT unders are value and HT ove
England vs USA. This is a game that happens on Saturday evening chaps. [;)]
I have been seeding this for a month or so now and here are my observations:
No sending off is starting to get too big at 1.31. I am forced now to try to get laid at 4.1 on the other side but small as irrational punting means that the price could go shorter.
u/o 2.5: Unders are too big at 1.9.
The other goals markets have been irrational and I will need to come back to that.
No hatrick at 1.03 looks like value but I am not having any of that. I cannot take the stress of 1.03 back bets any longer.
Substitutes used is a market I am new to. 6 the market seems to think and I need to do more research. Prima facie 4-5 looks like value and a lay of 0-3 if you can get matched.
England vs USA. This is a game that happens on Saturday evening chaps. I have been seeding this for a month or so now and here are my observations:No sending off is starting to get too big at 1.31. I am forced now to try to get laid at 4.1 on the
Morning Alex. Bizarrely I have looked on this thread for the first time in ages today and low and behold there are some new posts!
Yes I remember the video clip but unfortunately it has disappeared. I asked the guy who sent it to me if he had a copy but alas no!
I think England are worth a lay at 1/2 tonight, should trade big in-running if this game is as tight as the first two we see yesterday.
Morning Alex.Bizarrely I have looked on this thread for the first time in ages today and low and behold there are some new posts!Yes I remember the video clip but unfortunately it has disappeared. I asked the guy who sent it to me if he had a copy bu
It was hosted on brightcove.tv .. they have a search facility so if you can remember the name of the caves (they were spanish) you might be able to find it.
It was hosted on brightcove.tv .. they have a search facility so if you can remember the name of the caves (they were spanish) you might be able to find it.
Good start for the South Koreans cgull.... good work on that one mate.
England to win to nil at 2.5 and England clean sheet at 2.04 my only plays here.
Evening lads. had forgotten about this fred.Good start for the South Koreans cgull.... good work on that one mate.England to win to nil at 2.5 and England clean sheet at 2.04 my only plays here.
Personally, I hope it's Hart as I'm a big fan of his (said before the tournament I wanted him to start ) and James is apparently strugging still.
well done sint.so who plays the next game, James or Hart ?Personally, I hope it's Hart as I'm a big fan of his (said before the tournament I wanted him to start ) and James is apparently strugging still.
comaiserations CCM. Not a nice way to do your cash as you say, but it help me out [:p]
agree TD. Hart has at least played all season when on-loan and has not suffered with injuries, I think. He reminds of David Seaman a bit tbh, un-fussy and gets on with it.
comaiserations CCM. Not a nice way to do your cash as you say, but it help me out agree TD. Hart has at least played all season when on-loan and has not suffered with injuries, I think. He reminds of David Seaman a bit tbh, un-fussy and gets on with
today I hope to see RvP score for top dutch/tgs bets.
If England face Ghana in the next round I could see that been a very tricky tie tbh. Solid at the back.
have not had time to look yet Alex. will do.today I hope to see RvP score for top dutch/tgs bets.If England face Ghana in the next round I could see that been a very tricky tie tbh. Solid at the back.
I have one in mind for the IC v Portugal game and will post up once the teams are in.
Re the England goalkeeping situation if James is fit then he has to start for me. Capello can always say that James was first choice but for his injury so it's not a case of Green being dropped for his clanger but simply James being available again. I know he divides opinion but he is a country mile in front of any other English 'keeper and it is sad that the occasional error from years gone by still seem to tarnish his reputation. ALL keepers have made high profile errors at some time or another, including the ones the pundits and media who watch no football outside of the Premiership, Champions League and the Euros and World Cup fawn over (Casillas, Buffon etc etc) and let's face it, James has seen plenty more action standing behind the Pompey defence recently than most.
That said, if he isn't fit (and he says he is) then I'd pick Hart ahead of Green. Not because of the mistake but simply because I think he is a better 'keeper. I doubt whoever plays will have much to do on Friday evening anyway tbh.
I still hate this forum sadly. I have one in mind for the IC v Portugal game and will post up once the teams are in. Re the England goalkeeping situation if James is fit then he has to start for me. Capello can always say that James was first choi
Didier Zokora MOTM @ 28/1 and anytime scorer (32 on here at present.) Hoping he reverts to the style of play that got him his transfer after the last World Cup rather than the reserved defensive type he has become in Spain. Speculative punt.
Didier Zokora MOTM @ 28/1 and anytime scorer (32 on here at present.) Hoping he reverts to the style of play that got him his transfer after the last World Cup rather than the reserved defensive type he has become in Spain. Speculative punt.
This England game this afternoon, I do like England games to bet on.
Unders look too generous across the board.
Under 2.5 is odds on yet look at the hatrick odds, 1.06 for no hatrick! It should be 1.02 or maybe 1.03 at a push Silly and emotional punting, imo.
Sending off at 1.4 is just plain silly. Expect a big hitter to arrive an hour before the game and bring sense to that market, no sending off is bound to go shorter.
I expect a slow start so am gently backing the draw. If the emotional punters come out in force than the price for the draw could go higher.
Just checking a few markets, I will see if I can find more.
This England game this afternoon, I do like England games to bet on.Unders look too generous across the board.Under 2.5 is odds on yet look at the hatrick odds, 1.06 for no hatrick! It should be 1.02 or maybe 1.03 at a push Silly and emotional punt
Under 2.5 is odds on yet look at the hatrick odds, 1.06 for no hatrick! It should be 1.02 or maybe 1.03 at a push Silly and emotional punting, imo.
Sending off at 1.4 is just plain silly. Expect a big hitter to arrive an hour before the game and bring sense to that market, no sending off is bound to go shorter.
I expect a slow start so am gently backing the draw. If the emotional punters come out in force than the price for the draw could go higher. [/i]
All correct. Call this aftertiming if you like.
[i]Unders look too generous across the board.Under 2.5 is odds on yet look at the hatrick odds, 1.06 for no hatrick! It should be 1.02 or maybe 1.03 at a push Silly and emotional punting, imo.Sending off at 1.4 is just plain silly. Expect a big hi
Fran Merida Joined: 24 Apr 08 Replies: 1129 24 Jun 10 17:35 WD Alex.
Did the back of the Draw cop off then ?
I squared it so it must have been good. More on this next England game if anybody wants to hear. As usual, not outrights, just price movements.
Fran Merida Joined: 24 Apr 08Replies: 1129 24 Jun 10 17:35 WD Alex.Did the back of the Draw cop off then ?I squared it so it must have been good. More on this next England game if anybody wants to hear. As usual, not outrights, just price move
Alex, are you surprised England are favourites against the Germans .. ?
No prizes for Originality here but think Brazil are the bankers of the 2nd round around 1.58. They beat Chile 3-0 (away) and 4-2 (home) in the Qualifiers and the Chileans had quite a tough game last night against Spain. Although both sides eased off around the 70 minute mark, the Chilean's dominated the first half for long periods and did plenty of running. They also have three players Suspended for the next game.
Alex, are you surprised England are favourites against the Germans .. ?No prizes for Originality here but think Brazil are the bankers of the 2nd round around 1.58. They beat Chile 3-0 (away) and 4-2 (home) in the Qualifiers and the Chileans had quit
Ghana backers must be seething imo. They toyed with the Americans in the first half. Then they totally sat off in the second and allowed the US to get back in it. Good team imo.
Ghana backers must be seething imo. They toyed with the Americans in the first half. Then they totally sat off in the second and allowed the US to get back in it. Good team imo.
sintonian 26 Jun 10 16:50 Alex, are you surprised England are favourites against the Germans .. ?
Sorry, I took my eye off the ball on this fred. Had we talked more I am sure that would have persuaded each other that the odds were wrong and we would have made a bit more money.
I see that the amount of England flags on cars has reduced but surprisingly some still are flying.
sintonian 26 Jun 10 16:50 Alex, are you surprised England are favourites against the Germans .. ?Sorry, I took my eye off the ball on this fred. Had we talked more I am sure that would have persuaded each other that the odds were wrong and we w
The corners bet landed but have no idea how. There were 4 corners in the first 11 minutes, then just one more before half time. The 9th and final corner came on the 70th minute can you believe!?
The corners bet landed but have no idea how. There were 4 corners in the first 11 minutes, then just one more before half time. The 9th and final corner came on the 70th minute can you believe!?
Brazil at Evens is tempting. I hope they let the Dutch have the ball, soak up the pressure, then pull their pants down on the counter-attack.
Ghana & Uruguay looks quite tight to me. I read on Sporting Life about 25 of the 40 winning matches so far have been Won by a single goal, and Uruguay are responsible for 3 of them, so the 11/4 for that margin seems reasonable. I do think they if Ghana put their minds to it they could cause an upset.
Argentina - German looks like a game of who has the best attack or slightly better defence, and in both cases the answer would be Argentina imo. 11/8 in 90 mins is also OK, I think.
Any ideas for these Quarter-finals ?Brazil at Evens is tempting. I hope they let the Dutch have the ball, soak up the pressure, then pull their pants down on the counter-attack.Ghana & Uruguay looks quite tight to me. I read on Sporting Life about 25
Messi has yet to score but been playing very well and had 7 shots on target which is joint top so far. Perhaps him in a wincast is the way to play it ? Need to check the odds.
Messi has yet to score but been playing very well and had 7 shots on target which is joint top so far. Perhaps him in a wincast is the way to play it ? Need to check the odds.
same again with Ghana in the To Qualify makret as that could be extra-time etc .. 17/1.
Backed Brazil today.Done a mug acca for a few quid alsoBrazilArgentinaSpainGhana 30/1 in 90 minssame again with Ghana in the To Qualify makret as that could be extra-time etc .. 17/1.
sintonian Joined: 21 Sep 04 Replies: 6067 02 Jul 10 09:58 Alex, did I read you were laying the Brazilians on the main forum ..?
Yes I did ok yesterday. But i will admit to sitting in the pub and then popping and and next door to Billies after watching 25 minutes
sintonian Joined: 21 Sep 04Replies: 6067 02 Jul 10 09:58 Alex, did I read you were laying the Brazilians on the main forum ..?Yes I did ok yesterday. But i will admit to sitting in the pub and then popping and and next door to Billies after wat