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NonVintage
02 Dec 21 23:37
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Am not taking the complete disappearance of Philadelphia's offense last week to heart - sometimes these things just happen. The defensive line held the Giants to 13 points, and the offensive line just seemed to forget that they can run. If the game came up again, I'd still have to back the Eagles!

This week, there are three games that I could have picked a value selection from, and two follow on from the last Monday night game. The Seahawks' lack of offensive threat (including an out-of-sorts, or possibly disillusioned Russ at QB) is going to make it very hard for them to win games against anyone, so I'd expect San Francisco to win quite comfortably on Sunday.

Which brings us to the Washington Football Team, who beat Seattle in a weird but very entertaining game on Monday - narrowly but would have almost certainly been more comfortable if their kicker hadn't pointlessly tweaked his hamstring while not chasing down that blocked PAT return.

They struggled early on in the season primarily because their defense weren't playing to anything like the level they had ended last season at. This has been changing in recent weeks and they look pretty mean and well organised now.

Heinicke has grown in confidence, McLaurin is great and their running game has gone up a notch. They still aren't going to be a team that regularly scores 30+ points, but they don't need to be. In a similar way to New England, but at a slightly lower level, they've shown how effective you can be just doing the simple things well, rather than attempting the spectacular.

Right now, Las Vegas will be buoyed by an unexpected victory over the Cowboys in a weird, weird game which they won basically because the officials kept throwing pass interference flags against the hapless Anthony Brown - sometimes justifiably, but often incredibly harshly. Dallas underperformed - or at least were in line with recent rather than early season form - but may well have won the game without the flagdemic.

I don't think the Raiders are a reliable team - clearly their season has been disrupted hugely, and they are up against solid opposition here who are unlikely to be giving up defensive penalties like Dallas did.

For me, this game should be priced up with Washington as definite favourites, but they are actually available at around 6/5. I would much, much rather take that about the Football Team than consider the Raiders at odds of about 1.75.

For what it's worth (not much recently), the predictor has this as Washington Football Team 26-22 Las Vegas Raiders.
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Report NonVintage December 3, 2021 4:08 AM GMT
Terrible pick thrown by Dak there... gives the Saints another chance
Report NonVintage December 3, 2021 4:12 AM GMT
Hill's multi-skills got me wondering about what sort of advantage a team might have if they had a genuine QB who could punt. Would be a nightmare for other teams!
Report NonVintage December 3, 2021 4:19 AM GMT
This has become an offensive sh!tshow by both teams. Horrific stuff bordering on incompetent, including the sideline decision-making...
Report TOP3MAN December 4, 2021 1:17 AM GMT
Cowboys however are playoff bound.... I wouldn't back Alstom them making the superbowl
Report NonVintage December 5, 2021 6:53 PM GMT
Crazy shootout developing between the Jets and (un-Hurts) Eagles... neither team able to stop the other at the moment...
Report TOP3MAN December 5, 2021 7:05 PM GMT
Bengals are having one of those weeks. To be 24-0 down  to the chargers just shows the inconsistent nature of the NFL this season
Report GoBallistic December 5, 2021 7:07 PM GMT
6 possessions, 6 TDs

Jets rookie kicker playing his first (and possibly last) NFL game misses his first two EPs and the 3rd Jets TD is followed by a failed 2 pt conversion
Report NonVintage December 5, 2021 7:08 PM GMT
Yeah, crazy stuff GB! Laugh
Report NonVintage December 5, 2021 8:12 PM GMT
Fair play to the Bengals for getting back into it...
Report TOP3MAN December 5, 2021 8:21 PM GMT
Bengals are exciting team to watch. They should be beating teams like the chargers. Herbert not in same league as Burrows
Report TOP3MAN December 5, 2021 8:22 PM GMT
Falcons season is over.

Vikings fans must be disappointed to drop pts to the lions
Report TOP3MAN December 5, 2021 8:42 PM GMT
Goff going to go 0-12 for the Lions
Report TOP3MAN December 5, 2021 8:44 PM GMT
Ariona into the playoffs. 10 wins get u In the playoffs this season by the looks of things
Report TOP3MAN December 5, 2021 8:46 PM GMT
Bengals loss to  the chargers is a big blow for their playoffs hopes
Report tobermory December 5, 2021 8:53 PM GMT
What did Detroit just do lol
Report tobermory December 5, 2021 9:12 PM GMT
OMG Detroit win on last second TD
Report tobermory December 5, 2021 9:13 PM GMT
Celebrating like they won the Super Bowl
Report TOP3MAN December 5, 2021 9:14 PM GMT
Lions in win shovk

Only the vikings defence can lose that game..... how many 2pt conversions did they fail at!!
Report TOP3MAN December 5, 2021 9:15 PM GMT
What price did the vikings go in play?
Report tobermory December 5, 2021 9:17 PM GMT
Zimmer played the 'prevent' defence
Report TOP3MAN December 5, 2021 9:17 PM GMT
Steelers was 11-0 this time last year..... they been terrible since the Lions have been winless

Maybe the steelers van beat the Ravens... they're the ideal team for pittsburgh are the steelers
Report tobermory December 5, 2021 9:18 PM GMT
I didnt check sorry
Report GoBallistic December 5, 2021 9:19 PM GMT
1.08 I think
Report TOP3MAN December 5, 2021 9:33 PM GMT
NP... always count on the Vikings to find a way to lose
... Best team to play overs on
Report TOP3MAN December 5, 2021 9:33 PM GMT
Thanks GB
Report TOP3MAN December 5, 2021 9:34 PM GMT
Nasty injury in seattle 49'ers game. That looked nasty
Report TOP3MAN December 5, 2021 9:38 PM GMT
Steelers pick the Jackson throwing arm.

Then the seahawks throws the playbook out the window.....  go homer....doh
Report TOP3MAN December 5, 2021 9:46 PM GMT
Kittle and Jimmy G link up is back this season
Report TOP3MAN December 5, 2021 10:13 PM GMT
Russell Wilson must be getting sick and tired of the protection he is getting week in week out
Report NonVintage December 6, 2021 12:09 AM GMT
Wow... close one in Las Vegas - didn't think Washington were going to win it at the end - didn't think he'd make the kick and then could barely watch Carr throwing that Hail Mary! Phew!
Report tobermory December 6, 2021 12:10 AM GMT
Good call on WFT.

Raiders a bit lucky not getting a PI call at the end.
Report NonVintage December 6, 2021 12:10 AM GMT
Apparently 'just' a concussion for the SF49ers punt returner in the end - think he was probably knocked out and they took no chances but scary stuff!
Report NonVintage December 6, 2021 12:12 AM GMT
Agreed tobermory - could easily have been given but maybe they used up all their PI call luck against Dallas on Turkey Day! Laugh
Report TOP3MAN December 6, 2021 12:14 AM GMT
Come on steelers
Report tobermory December 6, 2021 12:15 AM GMT
Steelers gonna do the Ravens
Report TOP3MAN December 6, 2021 12:23 AM GMT
What big turnover in the 49ers game
Report TOP3MAN December 6, 2021 12:24 AM GMT
Ravens perfect team for steelers
Report GoBallistic December 6, 2021 12:24 AM GMT
3rd turnover by Everett
Report TOP3MAN December 6, 2021 12:31 AM GMT
Arrrrragh..  Jackson turned up on that drive
Report england_v_south_afri December 6, 2021 12:31 AM GMT
Going for 2 ShockedShockedShocked
Report TOP3MAN December 6, 2021 12:32 AM GMT
Steelers defence all over shop
Report TOP3MAN December 6, 2021 12:32 AM GMT
Will 49ers go for 2
Report england_v_south_afri December 6, 2021 12:32 AM GMT
Steelers !!!!
Report tobermory December 6, 2021 12:32 AM GMT
Wow
Report TOP3MAN December 6, 2021 12:32 AM GMT
Ravens lost it
Report therhino December 6, 2021 12:33 AM GMT
Crazy ending in Pittsburgh
Report TOP3MAN December 6, 2021 12:33 AM GMT
Get in there
Report TOP3MAN December 6, 2021 12:33 AM GMT
What a finish
Report therhino December 6, 2021 12:33 AM GMT
Andrews has such good hands as well
Report england_v_south_afri December 6, 2021 12:34 AM GMT
Wow what a finish
Report therhino December 6, 2021 12:35 AM GMT
And New England now top seed in the AFC, didn't see that as a possibility 2 months ago
Report TOP3MAN December 6, 2021 12:36 AM GMT
Jimmy G to Kittle coming up
Report TOP3MAN December 6, 2021 12:37 AM GMT
Jimmy G as always chokes when needed
Report GoBallistic December 6, 2021 12:38 AM GMT
3 great late window games
Report TOP3MAN December 6, 2021 12:43 AM GMT
AfC is so open.... NFC won't change much
Report tobermory December 7, 2021 12:22 AM GMT
Patriots-Bills gonna be played in horrendous weather....

wind speed been as high as 46mph and not dropped below 24
Report england_v_south_afri December 7, 2021 12:26 AM GMT
Scared
Report therhino December 7, 2021 12:59 AM GMT
Biggest game of the season coming up? Hopefully the Bills show up to play, don't know what you're gonna get from them at the moment.
Report therhino December 7, 2021 1:02 AM GMT
Insane weather to be outdoors! Looks horrendous Scared
Report therhino December 7, 2021 1:04 AM GMT
Comms wearing gloves indoors Laugh
Report tobermory December 7, 2021 1:27 AM GMT
15 yard punt into the wind lol
Report england_v_south_afri December 7, 2021 1:27 AM GMT
15 yard punt LaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report tobermory December 7, 2021 1:30 AM GMT
Bill's have wind advantage 1st quarter
Report therhino December 7, 2021 1:34 AM GMT
Problems going with the wind as well I think, have to be very precise with the punting to pin the opposition and not give them touchbacks. The punters are probably the most important players on both teams tonight.
Report leroyb December 7, 2021 1:36 AM GMT
0-0 FT
Report therhino December 7, 2021 1:36 AM GMT
Yeah it's going to penalties for sure.
Report therhino December 7, 2021 1:37 AM GMT
Shocked
Report tobermory December 7, 2021 1:37 AM GMT
Wow
Report leroyb December 7, 2021 1:38 AM GMT
Or not Laugh
Report tobermory December 7, 2021 1:38 AM GMT
FG kickers having the night off
Report england_v_south_afri December 7, 2021 1:38 AM GMT
Great start NE into the wind
Report therhino December 7, 2021 1:39 AM GMT
I've screwed up quite a few golfers in my time spruiking their play only for them to throw in a bogey within a minute or so but a 64 yard TD with a 2 point conversion within 20 seconds of a post is a new PB I think. The forum curse is the most powerful force in the universe, stronger than gravity.
Report NonVintage December 7, 2021 1:40 AM GMT
Just turned on in time for the (2nd) fumble and then TD. This is going to be mental! Haha!
Report NonVintage December 7, 2021 1:41 AM GMT

Dec 7, 2021 -- 1:39AM, therhino wrote:


I've screwed up quite a few golfers in my time spruiking their play only for them to throw in a bogey within a minute or so but a 64 yard TD with a 2 point conversion within 20 seconds of a post is a new PB I think. The forum curse is the most powerful force in the universe, stronger than gravity.


Lol!

Report tobermory December 7, 2021 1:48 AM GMT
Damn NE so close to getting out of the quarter with a lead.
Report NonVintage December 7, 2021 1:49 AM GMT
There is a stack of movement on the line of scrimmage from both lines on most snaps here - looks like the officials are being generous given the conditions. Face mask doink could get Buffalo straight back on terms!
Report tobermory December 7, 2021 1:49 AM GMT
In outright I am 300+ on Patriots, level on Buffalo
Report leroyb December 7, 2021 1:50 AM GMT
lol
Report tobermory December 7, 2021 1:50 AM GMT
Real momentum swing there
Report tobermory December 7, 2021 2:02 AM GMT
Patriots trying a FG Scared
Report tobermory December 7, 2021 2:02 AM GMT
nailed it
Report NonVintage December 7, 2021 2:03 AM GMT
That's a strong position Tobermory!
Report leroyb December 7, 2021 2:04 AM GMT
Great kick, drilled it
Report tobermory December 7, 2021 2:08 AM GMT
I was quite a big red Buffalo most of season.

Can't see why they've been favs for much of it, regularly losing, but been priced like they were a class above on the AFC.
Report NonVintage December 7, 2021 2:16 AM GMT
They started off looking like a really decent team - was very confident they would beat Kansas in Week 5 and they produced that night - but mostly they've looked just OK or a touch above average since then. Hard to erase that Jacksonville game from the memory!
Report tobermory December 7, 2021 2:37 AM GMT
They are a strong team, but I think a bit limited if they don't have the lead. Allen starts making mistakes when he has to throw a lot.

For the super bowl I'd rather side with teams that can make 12 point comebacks, as might well need to do that at some point.
Report NonVintage December 7, 2021 3:07 AM GMT
Wow, that was a sh!tty personal foul call against NE!
Report NonVintage December 7, 2021 3:13 AM GMT
Patriots need to mix it up a bit more here... can't just run it now that Buffalo know what's coming.
Report therhino December 7, 2021 3:14 AM GMT
Does anyone think the Bills are a better team watching this game?
Report NonVintage December 7, 2021 3:17 AM GMT
Better than the Pats or better than we thought they were? I think it's hard to judge given the wind. They've shown more creativity than NE here but that isn't saying much.
Report therhino December 7, 2021 3:20 AM GMT
Stupid challenge.
Report therhino December 7, 2021 3:21 AM GMT
Better than the Pats I was getting at.
Report NonVintage December 7, 2021 3:25 AM GMT
I think both teams are limited tonight, but overall and in a 'normal' game, I'd still take the Oats over the Bills. I don't think they win anything without a bit more of a rushing game.
Report NonVintage December 7, 2021 3:26 AM GMT
*Pats (not the Oats - lol)
Report NonVintage December 7, 2021 3:27 AM GMT
And yeah, impossible challenge to win - no-one could possibly see so the call had to stand!
Report NonVintage December 7, 2021 3:28 AM GMT
This FG attempt should be fun!
Report NonVintage December 7, 2021 3:28 AM GMT
Nice job Nick!
Report tobermory December 7, 2021 4:19 AM GMT
Was a bizarre challenge. They had no way to say there was an error with the call. Lost timeout cost them a chance at the end.
Report GoBallistic December 7, 2021 3:15 PM GMT
Amazing to win a game with 19 yds passing on just 3 passes, with a QB who can't run. Really, Josh Allen had to have a huge advantage in those conditions. The Patriots are pretty good this season
Report brentford December 15, 2021 11:07 AM GMT
I've been quite pleased to see the Pats renaissance...was worried a bit that Bill was getting found out without an elite QB on a below market value contract...

to quote the song... "I guess I should have known better " LoveLove

and still the master of the press conference ....
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