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woodmanchester
15 Sep 19 14:14
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Patriots and Chiefs are more or less 3/1 jt favs to win the AFC but more or less 7/2 and 15/2 respectively outright, so gone with the Chiefs as my opening gambit
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Report wondersobright February 3, 2020 2:59 AM GMT
trust your D with 3 TDs
Report TerryHurlock February 3, 2020 2:59 AM GMT
YEEEAAAHHHH BAABBY
Report wondersobright February 3, 2020 2:59 AM GMT
another shocking call imo
Report tobermory February 3, 2020 3:00 AM GMT
Is Kyle Shanahan a choker? 28-3 and now this
Report jucel69 February 3, 2020 3:00 AM GMT
never in doubtExcited
Report bobweenit February 3, 2020 3:00 AM GMT
GSM Kansas city
Report therhino February 3, 2020 3:00 AM GMT
What a collapse. Worst coaching performance since give the ball to Marshawn.
Report TerryHurlock February 3, 2020 3:00 AM GMT

Feb 3, 2020 -- 4:00AM, jucel69 wrote:


never in doubt


Mahomo is the man....u love him Grin

Report bobweenit February 3, 2020 3:00 AM GMT
1.13    £12        £169
1.14    £280        £24,235
1.15    £7        £30,291
1.16    £100        £58,400
1.17            £148,713
1.18            £124,447
1.19            £53,017
1.20    £1,000        £63,445
1.21            £101,38
Report wondersobright February 3, 2020 3:00 AM GMT
"up to the defence now"

yeah on midfield pmsl
Report jucel69 February 3, 2020 3:01 AM GMT
a FG and a TD give ovaltine still!
Report Cardinal Scott February 3, 2020 3:01 AM GMT
I've not enjoyed this one bit, trying to trade a sport I barely understand but I seem to have lucked out of via a  reverse and then reverse back.
Report tobermory February 3, 2020 3:01 AM GMT
1.14 to 17.5 in what does not seem long
Report wondersobright February 3, 2020 3:01 AM GMT
behave juce
Report TerryHurlock February 3, 2020 3:01 AM GMT
how they gonna fix this up now
Report johnnythebull February 3, 2020 3:01 AM GMT
if i was Lynch i'd knock that Shanahan spark out on the sideline
Report Cardinal Scott February 3, 2020 3:01 AM GMT
Well done jucel.
Report TerryHurlock February 3, 2020 3:01 AM GMT
murderer!!!!!!!!!!!
Report therhino February 3, 2020 3:01 AM GMT
Unbelievable.
Report jucel69 February 3, 2020 3:01 AM GMT
CoolCoolCoolCool
Report GRANTCKING February 3, 2020 3:02 AM GMT
LaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report grayhawk February 3, 2020 3:02 AM GMT
This will sting for a lonnnnnnnggggg time for the Niners
Report wondersobright February 3, 2020 3:02 AM GMT
no silly bollox now please
Report jucel69 February 3, 2020 3:02 AM GMT
the sixety niners have blown itLaugh
Report TOP3MAN February 3, 2020 3:02 AM GMT
Chiefs win it with a rush lol
Report tobermory February 3, 2020 3:02 AM GMT
What a turnaround. When Mahomes got picked seemed all over.
Report TerryHurlock February 3, 2020 3:03 AM GMT
i nearly went to bed in disgust
Report jucel69 February 3, 2020 3:03 AM GMT
that 1.5 was the best price I've seen in a sporting event for a while
Report EUGENE KRABS February 3, 2020 3:03 AM GMT
unders boys in a sweat now
Report wondersobright February 3, 2020 3:03 AM GMT

Feb 3, 2020 -- 3:05AM, TOP3MAN wrote:


They won’t get two TDS in one quarter agst this defence49ers superior side


technically right!!

Report jucel69 February 3, 2020 3:04 AM GMT
they are going to play very soft defence here, chance for a TD and an onside kick
Report GRANTCKING February 3, 2020 3:04 AM GMT
Laugh what an implosion to lose the dish
Report TerryHurlock February 3, 2020 3:04 AM GMT

Feb 3, 2020 -- 4:03AM, jucel69 wrote:


that 1.5 was the best price I've seen in a sporting event for a while


well done,i'd had enough heartache by then

Report GRANTCKING February 3, 2020 3:04 AM GMT
that coach got a lot of explaining to do for throwing the ball
Report jucel69 February 3, 2020 3:05 AM GMT
greened
Report johnnythebull February 3, 2020 3:05 AM GMT
gotta feel 4 the 9ers team having a total hanjob of a coach who blew the game for them..do u think Bellicheck would've lost from that position?
Report jucel69 February 3, 2020 3:06 AM GMT
had a bit at 500s
Report Cardinal Scott February 3, 2020 3:06 AM GMT
Report wondersobright February 3, 2020 3:06 AM GMT
Love
Report TerryHurlock February 3, 2020 3:06 AM GMT
they've been Mahomowed
Report tobermory February 3, 2020 3:06 AM GMT
Jackson Mahomes: "I'm shaking!!"
Report wondersobright February 3, 2020 3:07 AM GMT
coppage Love
Report Cardinal Scott February 3, 2020 3:07 AM GMT
A good 4 pence that will be.
Report TerryHurlock February 3, 2020 3:07 AM GMT
what a game...
Report bobweenit February 3, 2020 3:07 AM GMT

Feb 3, 2020 -- 4:07AM, Cardinal Scott wrote:


A good 4 pence that will be.


green is greenWink

Report TerryHurlock February 3, 2020 3:07 AM GMT
nice one wonders
Report jucel69 February 3, 2020 3:08 AM GMT
still taking TOsCrazy
Report xmoneyx February 3, 2020 3:08 AM GMT
4th quarter

SF collapse
Report milla446 February 3, 2020 3:08 AM GMT
They should make the Niners play caller walk home after that shambles of a quarter.
Report wondersobright February 3, 2020 3:08 AM GMT
wondersobright
02 Feb 20 22:55
enough mugs betting overs to push this beyond where it should be circa 51 ish imo


Laugh
Report johnnythebull February 3, 2020 3:09 AM GMT
Muguruza,Thiem,Finau,Shanahan..what a w/end for chokers!!
Report jucel69 February 3, 2020 3:09 AM GMT

Feb 3, 2020 -- 4:08AM, wondersobright wrote:


wondersobright 02 Feb 20 22:55 enough mugs betting overs to push this beyond where it should be circa 51 ish imo


Grin

Report jucel69 February 3, 2020 3:09 AM GMT

Feb 3, 2020 -- 4:08AM, wondersobright wrote:


wondersobright 02 Feb 20 22:55 enough mugs betting overs to push this beyond where it should be circa 51 ish imo


defo more points than I thought!

Report casemoney February 3, 2020 3:09 AM GMT
In the end it was all About Patrick Happy Cracking game , 1.14 at the turn over and 9ers thought it was all over Plain
Report wondersobright February 3, 2020 3:10 AM GMT
some garbage time points juce...done well to make past the 40s how the game played out
wd all KC backers pleased they've won

enjoyable game
Report therhino February 3, 2020 3:11 AM GMT
In the end it was all about Shanahan. Spectacular clusterfeck of a performance on his part.

Let the crucification begin Excited
Report jucel69 February 3, 2020 3:11 AM GMT

Feb 3, 2020 -- 4:10AM, wondersobright wrote:


some garbage time points juce...done well to make past the 40s how the game played outwd all KC backers pleased they've wonenjoyable game


jasus, if he had connected with that pass it would have been the most painful ever for youSurprised

Report bobweenit February 3, 2020 3:11 AM GMT
was sweating on my under 52.5 there! LaughLaugh
Report TerryHurlock February 3, 2020 3:11 AM GMT
what colour gatorade...purple was fav
Report wondersobright February 3, 2020 3:11 AM GMT
I thought that too Whoops
Report tobermory February 3, 2020 3:12 AM GMT
John Lynch thought it was GSM when Mahomes threw that pick.  High fiving in the box.
Report SamuelMertensBertens February 3, 2020 3:12 AM GMT
NFL Matches / San Francisco 49ers @ Kansas City Chiefs / Super Bowl MVP   
Damien Williams    Lay    193699209635    03-Feb-20
03:07         13    8.63        13    03-Feb-20 03:07   
   
NFL Matches / San Francisco 49ers @ Kansas City Chiefs / Super Bowl MVP   
Patrick Mahomes    Lay    193699204129    03-Feb-20
03:07         1.02    400.00        1.02    03-Feb-20 03:07


will be Mahomes, but nice if it won't.
Report wondersobright February 3, 2020 3:12 AM GMT
been some bad beats on unders this year
Report TOP3MAN February 3, 2020 3:12 AM GMT
Coach of 49ers cooked his q/b

Why not rush!
Report jucel69 February 3, 2020 3:12 AM GMT

Feb 3, 2020 -- 4:12AM, wondersobright wrote:


been some bad beats on unders this year


that one when about 21 points were scored in the last minute was the worst

Report tobermory February 3, 2020 3:13 AM GMT
A 21-0 last 9 minutes
Report wondersobright February 3, 2020 3:13 AM GMT

Feb 3, 2020 -- 4:12AM, jucel69 wrote:


Feb  3, 2020 --  3:12AM, wondersobright wrote:been some bad beats on unders this yearthat one when about 21 points were scored in the last minute was the worst


was 1 with washington & 1 with atlanta

Report wondersobright February 3, 2020 3:14 AM GMT
both vomit inducing for unders backers (luckily I wasn't affected)
Report milla446 February 3, 2020 3:14 AM GMT

Feb 3, 2020 -- 4:11AM, TerryHurlock wrote:


what colour gatorade...purple was fav


Orange

Report tobermory February 3, 2020 3:14 AM GMT
Actually 21-0 last 6 and a bit
Report TerryHurlock February 3, 2020 3:14 AM GMT
cheers mila
Report jucel69 February 3, 2020 3:14 AM GMT

Feb 3, 2020 -- 4:14AM, milla446 wrote:


Feb  3, 2020 --  3:11AM, TerryHurlock wrote:what colour gatorade...purple was favOrange


you need some purple drank, it's what all the homeboys drink!

Report wondersobright February 3, 2020 3:14 AM GMT
washington philly I think juce
Report wondersobright February 3, 2020 3:15 AM GMT
2 TDs in the last few seconds wasn't it
Report jucel69 February 3, 2020 3:15 AM GMT

Feb 3, 2020 -- 4:15AM, wondersobright wrote:


2 TDs in the last few seconds wasn't it


yeh that's the one

Report wondersobright February 3, 2020 3:15 AM GMT
atlanta SF was the other game
Report TerryHurlock February 3, 2020 3:15 AM GMT

Feb 3, 2020 -- 4:14AM, jucel69 wrote:


Feb  3, 2020 --  3:14AM, milla446 wrote:Feb  3, 2020 --  3:11AM, TerryHurlock wrote:what colour gatorade...purple was favOrangeyou need some purple drank, it's what all the homeboys drink!


i see odds for it earlier when looking around...hought G wouldve been on it

Report jucel69 February 3, 2020 3:16 AM GMT
Purple drank is a recreational drug, created by combining prescription-grade cough syrup with a soft drink and hard candy. The concoction originated in Houston, Texas, and is popular among those who belong to the hip hop subculture or reside in the southern United States.
Report Cardinal Scott February 3, 2020 3:17 AM GMT
Report milla446 February 3, 2020 3:17 AM GMT
I was on the purple, I swallowed the Kobe tribute nonsense. That's a tenner I'll never see again Laugh
Report TerryHurlock February 3, 2020 3:17 AM GMT
Laugh
Report TerryHurlock February 3, 2020 3:18 AM GMT

Feb 3, 2020 -- 4:16AM, jucel69 wrote:


Purple drank is a recreational drug, created by combining prescription-grade cough syrup with a soft drink and hard candy. The concoction originated in Houston, Texas, and is popular among those who belong to the hip hop subculture or reside in the southern United States.


sounds good Grin

Report jucel69 February 3, 2020 3:18 AM GMT
Laugh
Report jucel69 February 3, 2020 3:19 AM GMT
they also call it lean, because it makes you lean over, super chilled!
Report TerryHurlock February 3, 2020 3:20 AM GMT
krankCool
Report therhino February 3, 2020 3:23 AM GMT
Mike Greenberg
@Espngreeny
In a game they were in front most of the night, the #Niners threw the ball 31 times and ran 22. #SuperBowl
Report tobermory February 3, 2020 3:47 AM GMT
In the 4th quarter of Super Bowls Kyle Shanahan is 0-40
Report woodmanchester February 3, 2020 7:30 AM GMT
DOUBLE BOOM!

Chiefs 11/2 winning margin 7-12pts and put them up at 15/2 right from the very start

49ers in control and Chiefs badly needed a touchdown after two intercepted passes with time against them

They faced 3rd down and 15yds but Mahomes came through, turning villain into hero! Excited
Report irishone February 3, 2020 8:35 AM GMT
You never got 15\2 it was three selections , thats 15\6 and you could have got 5 on here when they were ten behind.  The other bet is aftertimed, still aftertiming, still telling lies , you are an embarrassment to gambling.
Report woodmanchester February 3, 2020 10:22 AM GMT
This prat follows me round all forums and is a stalking psycho
Report jedi sophie February 3, 2020 11:32 AM GMT
Morning guys.
49ers loss cost me in region of 5k.
So you may view this as biased,there loss in my view almost entirely lies at the door of the coach,for someone who was in this position before and single handedly threw a previous superbowl,not to learn any lessons from that was utterly unbelievable in my opinion.
All they had to do was continue doing what they have repeatedly shown they are very good at,running the ball,to go away from that was a disgrace.
The game should end when Mahomes throws his 2nd pick. The mismanagement that followed was beyond belief.
The only other player as culpable was QB,he came up massively short in the biggest moment,the missed long pass to Sanders wasnt even that tricky,that wins the game also. But he shouldn't even have been reqd to throw the ****g ball,hand it off tine after time after time.

Truly shocking loss in the biggest spot of them all,Lynch looked dismayed at what they were doing. Bet his father was too.
What an idiot,arrogance at its worst.
Report Kelly February 3, 2020 12:46 PM GMT
Never bet on American football myself  , no interest .  However last night I did bet on 3 markets on the Super Bowl , won on all 3 , so might have to consider getting more involved .  The beauty about betting on AF is the stops .  Its a stop go activity , so there is time to adjust on market response , unlike golf which is continuous and dynamic except overnight .

Not knowing the rules intimately is a big disadvantage , as against that patterns are fairly easy to interpret .

The ball hopped friendly for the Chiefs last night , scoring 3 touchdowns in last quarter fairly unusual in a final I suspect .

Chiefs would not be 1/3 in a rerun , as final score might suggest .  Mahomes touched 4/1 I think in MVP market .

As in rugby , interceptions are a key element if you are betting in running .
Report Kriskin February 3, 2020 1:05 PM GMT
As stated above the 49ers beat themselves.  Between Shanahan & Jimmy G that was their downfall. If I'm the owner of the 49ers serious questions need to be asked with my coach and QB.  The Chiefs could not believe their luck in that final 7 mins.
Report Wesdag February 3, 2020 1:33 PM GMT
Yes, the way the 49ers all went over for a group photo after (I think) the 2nd interception was ridiculous to put it mildly. They lost focus at that point imo.

A great game, well worth staying up for after last year's no show.
Report GRANTCKING February 3, 2020 4:12 PM GMT
wonder if the mug has explained why he chose to throw the ball with a lead in the 4th quarter!
Report woodmanchester February 3, 2020 4:57 PM GMT
49ers did little wrong 'til Chiefs 3rd and 15yds play, then gave up the ghost
Report Wallflower February 3, 2020 6:53 PM GMT
Kelly,

..its a fabulous sport and like all sports enjoyment generally increases the more you understand.  For example I never had any interest in cricket but over last 15-20 years have grown to love the sport. Still learning.

In terms of gambling I like long-running sports with ebbs and flows. NFL, Cricket, Golf Tennis.  (Soccer doesn't so it - though I'm profitable on it on the 2.5 / 3.5 under/over goals.....with very small amounts, but its a chore watching it, but only do it to pick up £ 100-200 a month to keep the books goodCool).

For me the pattern is the same - small amounts trading with momentum, levelling out and then placing half potential profit on the outsider. These swings happen so frequently in these sports (different types of ways).  But like all sports, you have to careful with NFL (speaking from experienceSad). 49ers were dominant for a lot of last night, but the ability for quick strikes, interceptions makes the game more volatile than it appears. I might have overdid it last night traded a position of  + £550 odd on 49 ers  but - £730 odd on Chiefs when 49ers on top, levelled out quite quickly to only £ 60 profit either way, but c'est la vie. Was tempted to leave it but experience taught me better.
Report Kelly February 4, 2020 1:28 PM GMT
Only comment I would make about American football is that it is a bit limited in relation to what position you would want to play if you were a kid . Only real "footballer" I see is the quarter back , and he is not allowed ( I presume) to kick the ball , but every child grows up wanting to be that quarter back , and there are only 2 ( presumably) in each squad .

Being part of the "forwards" ( rugby term ) is to be largely anonymous , just a number on a shirt  . Running back possibly another "feature" player ( I still remember John Riggins when we first were exposed to the game with substantial coverage) .  Wide receivers also have a chance to be MVP , but essentially it is always about the quarter backs .

Overall calling it "football" is a bit of a misnomer , there must be a more accurate description of it . Maybe American rugby would be a better term .

Still think no game in the world measures up to hurling , skill and commitment wise .  Unfortunately it is confined to Ireland , and only about 8 of our 32 counties play at the top level . And nobody pays more than 120 dollars for a "super bowl " ticket , the All Ireland final , traditionally on the first Sunday in September , Croke Park , Dublin, 82,000 plus attendance .  None of your 2500 dollars average price for a ticket , who pays that for a game of "football" ?

Can see betting opportunities in the game though , and with increasing difficulty in betting on running in some of our more traditional sports might be worth a closer look . Pre event betting on most sports nowadays offers very limited opportunities , the bookies and the exchanges are all essentially the same prices after taking into account margins and commission , only opportunity exists in running , but fast picture scalpers abound , and I only bet in running where there are "breaks" in play .

Great match though , not sure it would pan out the same result again .
Report tobermory February 5, 2020 12:36 AM GMT
There is skill in all positions.

American Football and Rugby are both versions of football, just as Association Football is.

The original FA did not imagine that had 'invented football'. They just decided to play a particular version of the rules. They did not dispute that rugby was football by different laws. And they wouldn't dispute that the NFL plays football.
Report Kelly February 5, 2020 4:51 AM GMT
Acknowledge that there is skill in all positions . But I suspect that the MVP in most games is a quarter back , as they have the most influence on the outcome of the game , as on Sunday .

But the terms offense and defense ( with separate teams ) indicates that offense are only there to attack , and defense to defend .  So they troop off in sequence . In most games every person has the opportunity to score , to defend and attack . That someone comes on the field to kick the ball specifically emphasizes that . All specialists essentially , which to me is very limiting . 

Would be interested to see if the game that Jim Thorpe and co played on grass a century or more ago resembled the current game .
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