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Why not start the thread on a Monday. Big winner from last weekend - the American sports media. Won't they just love one battle between Peyton and Tom for the right to go to the big show. They must be salivating and the thought of copying and pasting articles from way back when, should be plenty of time for golf this week.
A little surprised by the early line on the Panthers/Cardinals, was expecting 4.5 based on what we saw this weekend. I missed the Broncos game, but of the other 3 the Cards were by far the worst performing winner and their QB does not seem a man for the occasion. Panthers second half performance flattered Seattle, they were playing the clock and not the Seahawks. When it was there to be won, they were a cut above. -3 seems wrong.
Can't see the Broncos getting there but they already have a W against the Pats this season, so here's hoping. Can never count out that D at home, but a Pats v Panthers finale looks awfully likely.
A little surprised by the early line on the Panthers/Cardinals, was expecting 4.5 based on what we saw this weekend. I missed the Broncos game, but of the other 3 the Cards were by far the worst performing winner and their QB does not seem a man for the occasion. Panthers second half performance flattered Seattle, they were playing the clock and not the Seahawks. When it was there to be won, they were a cut above. -3 seems wrong.
Can't see the Broncos getting there but they already have a W against the Pats this season, so here's hoping. Can never count out that D at home, but a Pats v Panthers finale looks awfully likely.
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he'll get my full respect if he gets this up & down
similar-ish putts
the better putter 4 birdie
the lesser putter for par
but u never know
the better putter 4 birdie
the lesser putter for par
but u never know
panthers reminiscent of the seattle winning SB side
could well be a mullering of the broncos again
could well be a mullering of the broncos again
just over 5/1 17 pts down doesn't look too attractive to me
arizona +16 or thereabouts looks good to me, Carolina are prone to switchin off in front and riviera will be conservative in front
shame they contrived to lose to the falcons
had a real chance at history
had a real chance at history
told u lingmerth was a bottler
all about handling the nerves & pressure
all about handling the nerves & pressure
amazing how many balls have been spilt this season
Jan 25, 2016 -- 1:05AM, Swardean wrote:
That muffed catch has massively changed the momentum
Hasn't it just. Cards score and a 3 point ball game with Davis in the locker room.
Exceptional defense from Denver, in reality they should have won by several more points but for Manning missing a few regulation throws for a TD to rap it up. That said he had a very solid game. Comical how people still don't give the Denver defense enough credit...Von Miller is a beast.
Von Miller be blazin
Denver defense is the best in the afc. How do they rate against defences from the nfc like Seattle? pretty close I think.
Denver defense is the best in the afc. How do they rate against defences from the nfc like Seattle? pretty close I think.
TBF Swagger, any team that can beat the Patriots in a game that matters, irrespective how they do it, derserves a lot of credit
let's see if they can beat this lot in THE game that matters
Think the Panthers match up well with Denver. Mobile QB and a far better offensive line.
must say,save for some lapses in concentration,they look an awesome unit on all fronts
i know anything can happen in a final
but i can't give denver a prayer,myself
i know anything can happen in a final
but i can't give denver a prayer,myself
Great tackle by Ginn. Chased that down from about 30 yds behind
FFS, thought we might have had a game on there after all
ave it
palmer reverting to type under the cosh
you have it..no please you have it..no please
palmer reverting to type under the cosh
you have it..no please you have it..no please
Last two touches for Palmer
a fumble for a turnover and an interception
a fumble for a turnover and an interception
it was there to see last week
panthers have that swagger about them
they know they're for real and they f*cking are
panthers have that swagger about them
they know they're for real and they f*cking are
I think Denver will need to keep Panthers to less than 24 pts to have a chance. Seems unlikely but they did it to the Pats
Thomas Davis has a cast on. Done for the day, hopefully only precautionary but you would think the x ray results weren't great.
Quote of the day from Twitter thus far: Carson Palmer just threw his helmet against the locker room wall. It was intercepted by Roman Harper and returned 3 yards.
Peterson should of scored from that int, big chase and tackle from Ginn. Would of been 17-14 at the half.
I think Denver vs Panthers would be a great game. For me the best two defenses in the league. I prefer the Denver running game but obviously Cam is a more mobile QB. Brady got absolutely owned tonight for the majority, which to me spells out a serious defense. I think Brady was under 50% of completed throws last I saw which is a rarity. Manning looked better than I was expecting as well although he should have closed it out sooner.
Interesting to see how Carolina get on in the second half if Arizona can put any pressure on them although Palmer is obviously a joke QB.
Interesting to see how Carolina get on in the second half if Arizona can put any pressure on them although Palmer is obviously a joke QB.
Panthers injuries a bit of a concern. Harper ruled out now for the rest of the game with the eye I'm reading, Kalil questionable. Didn't even see that one.
Palmer has been found out tonight big time.
Doesn't have the "balls" for high pressure off season games.
Doesn't have the "balls" for high pressure off season games.
I think Palmer was exposed last week but Fitzy pulled him out of a hole - he didn't have to make any telling throws through the middle in Overtime after stinking the joint out during regulation
Carolina injuries my main concern going forward if can close this out sensibly..T Davis huge loss,him n Kuechly the dogs bollocks together..
Honestly think different side entirely to Denver.And will bash them up.Need there full squad up though.Allen back too.
Honestly think different side entirely to Denver.And will bash them up.Need there full squad up though.Allen back too.
If Arizona cannot move it on this defence then not sure Denver will be able to. Only chance is the Panthers will freeze in the SB. But NFL is very strange and unpredicable
If i wasnt absolutely balls deep in Carolina id be supremely confident
What a fkn beast. Passing of the torch the Superbowl will be. I can see Newton ushering in a era in Quarterbacking. Will start at the junior level, right now talen scout looking for bigger bodies and better athletes for that position. A new blueprint IMO.
But to be fair, the Arizona defense isn't exactly the Denver defense. Brady restricted to 12 points until almost the last play of the game and Rodgers was working the Packers offense upfield without four wide receivers against this Arizona defense.
The Panthers aren't going anywhere neither.....he's even doing it without his No 1 receiver for the season.
Not sure Rhino, the jury is still out. Still always feel Cam and Wilson are one play away from a season ending injury. They do look like the new generation but style of play always a worry
someones looking to get 12,000 on to win a night out down the pub, and you're not confident ...
Not for tonight hulk..on from start of season Panthers...
Jan 25, 2016 -- 2:05AM, Swardean wrote:
Not sure Rhino, the jury is still out.
FFS forum... Can't be arsed typing it again 
Long story short Swardean, Cam = evolution.
Long story short Swardean, Cam = evolution.
I love Cam and Wilson and the jury is not about them. The excitement the rushing QB provides, but there is still a question of their likely longevity of QBs playing that way.
I get what you mean. It's why I say Cam and not Russ, a bigger and stronger unit that can take hits. Not just excitement, when the QB can run you have an extra blocker on the field. Defending becomes a different equation mathematically.
We see it in sports. I remember when a 7 footer shooting 3 pointers would have been sacrilege. Then Nowitzki came along and the evolution occurred.
We see it in sports. I remember when a 7 footer shooting 3 pointers would have been sacrilege. Then Nowitzki came along and the evolution occurred.
Time will tell Rhino. Even if Can is the blueprint. Not sure too many are made in his mould
Agree with that, but at junior level they will be looking. Will be teaching the kids with those bodies how to play the position.
Think time to call it a night. Pats lost, Panthers won, so slightly down on night. See you all for SB
Phenomenal performance Panthers,absolutely brilliant.
Goodnight all,excellent thread.
Roll on two weeks night.
Goodnight all,excellent thread.
Roll on two weeks night.
They should make Carson walk back to Arizona after tonight.
I think although it was tagged as a nothing game, in reality the absolute beatdown Arizona suffered at home versus Seattle had much more of an impact than that. They never looked the same team again. I thought apart from the opening few possessions and the final TD drive by Arizona during regulation, Green Bay controlled the game last week which was surprising given they came into it with an offense badly out of sync and banged up to the hilt. Palmer should think twice before continually throwing the ball into double coverage when he has time on his hands 
For the interests of the Superbowl itself Denver will need to start well like they did against the Patriots. If they do then I would give them every chance. It shouldn't be underestimated that they conceded 16 points versus the Steelers (even banged up they still had deep threats and come on how good is Martavis Bryant going to be) and 18 points versus the Patriots - 6 of the those 18 points effectively coming via a brainless backward pass and another 6 points in effectively the last play of the game. That is a serious defense but the injuries to their safetys should be monitored. If the Panthers run away with an early lead then it's hard to see Denver coming back. But then as is often the case expect the unexpected!
For the interests of the Superbowl itself Denver will need to start well like they did against the Patriots. If they do then I would give them every chance. It shouldn't be underestimated that they conceded 16 points versus the Steelers (even banged up they still had deep threats and come on how good is Martavis Bryant going to be) and 18 points versus the Patriots - 6 of the those 18 points effectively coming via a brainless backward pass and another 6 points in effectively the last play of the game. That is a serious defense but the injuries to their safetys should be monitored. If the Panthers run away with an early lead then it's hard to see Denver coming back. But then as is often the case expect the unexpected!
People talk of the genius of Belichick but this season he has made some really stupid decisions. Failure to beat either the Jets or the Dolphins in the final weeks has cost them number 1 seed. And I have no doubts that result would have been reversed if the match was in Foxboro
therhino 25 Jan 16 02:02
What a fkn beast. Passing of the torch the Superbowl will be. I can see Newton ushering in a era in Quarterbacking. Will start at the junior level, right now talen scout looking for bigger bodies and better athletes for that position. A new blueprint IMO.
As much as I think Cam is awesome , he is also a freak. Number one there are not that many good quarterbacks at the same time, there are not many that are built like Cam and there are not many that have the talent and belief in abundance that Cam has. On top of that , teams and defences adapt , we have seen it through the ages in the NFL. Although Cam is sensational there won't be any evolution as you put it, and just to add again taking nothing away from Cam because I think he is sensational - he is playing behind a brilliant O-Line which makes so much of what he does possible.
What a fkn beast. Passing of the torch the Superbowl will be. I can see Newton ushering in a era in Quarterbacking. Will start at the junior level, right now talen scout looking for bigger bodies and better athletes for that position. A new blueprint IMO.
As much as I think Cam is awesome , he is also a freak. Number one there are not that many good quarterbacks at the same time, there are not many that are built like Cam and there are not many that have the talent and belief in abundance that Cam has. On top of that , teams and defences adapt , we have seen it through the ages in the NFL. Although Cam is sensational there won't be any evolution as you put it, and just to add again taking nothing away from Cam because I think he is sensational - he is playing behind a brilliant O-Line which makes so much of what he does possible.
Jan 25, 2016 -- 11:06AM, ClayDavis wrote:
People talk of the genius of Belichick but this season he has made some really stupid decisions. Failure to beat either the Jets or the Dolphins in the final weeks has cost them number 1 seed. And I have no doubts that result would have been reversed if the match was in Foxboro
Agree. The chickens came home alright.
Although Cam is sensational there won't be any evolution as you put it, and just to add again taking nothing away from Cam because I think he is sensational
We will see in 15 years or so. Certainly won't be next year, his contemporaries don't exist yet in the professional ranks. You could be right - I think people expected lots of 6 foot 9 point guards after Magic Johnson, never been anything close since and he finished up 25 years ago. Total one off. Cam is less unique physically though. There are plenty of similar bodied about with athletic qualities, they just ain't playing QB. I think it will change. It should, his way is better.
We will see in 15 years or so. Certainly won't be next year, his contemporaries don't exist yet in the professional ranks. You could be right - I think people expected lots of 6 foot 9 point guards after Magic Johnson, never been anything close since and he finished up 25 years ago. Total one off. Cam is less unique physically though. There are plenty of similar bodied about with athletic qualities, they just ain't playing QB. I think it will change. It should, his way is better.
Cam will have to look after himself a bit better if he wants a long career tho. that running back mentally of going through players could get him badly hurt.
the dive over for his second TD on Sunday was mad when you consider the game situation. that could have been season over for him when there was no real need for it.
the dive over for his second TD on Sunday was mad when you consider the game situation. that could have been season over for him when there was no real need for it.
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