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can't QB overrule decision
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only on 4th down should of they passed it, they wouldnt have had to worry about it if they would of handed it to marshawn
marshawn would of had game winning td and superbowl mvp... he got his comeuppance from how he treated ''the man'' |
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if russell makes the throw he gets superbowl mvp
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for not from
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QB can change the play call if he sees something in defence at line of scrimmage. Peyton Manning does it all the time. Carroll was just trying to be a smart ass. Everybody on the Planet who knows about NFL knew that running the ball was the call so Carroll tried to outwit them or tried to be too clever. Eejit
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Blogger: macca18's blog
Why are Patriots not taking timeout??? Not to take a time out with nearly a minute on the clock was nearly as strange as Wilson throwing the ball ,the most bizarre end to a superbowl I have seen . What was bellycheck keeping the 2 timeouts for ? |
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I'm not a big NFL expert but it did seem such a stupid stupid call. With such a short distance, running isn't that hard.
Running has a relatively low risk of losing the ball for a turnover. Throwing is far more dangerous, and really I'd say just from common sense, is tactically for trying to cover a large distance. So, such a STUPID call. I was on the patriots so happy, but, objectively. Stupid! I was sure the Seahawks were just going to throw themselves over the line. |
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"What was bellycheck keeping the 2 timeouts for ?"
Agreed. If Seahawks had got TD and gone on to win, he would have been heavily criticised for not stopping the clock. He got lucky IMO. |
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belicheck knew
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Would love to ask Bill what he was keeping the 2 timeouts for if hawks had ran it with no time left ,hawks had a time out left so was no time problem for them ,dont understand him not calling one ,perhaps Im looking at it wrong ..
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Deffo Macca really strange ,as Nugget says HE KNEW
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I think senility caught up with him and he was still in shock from the previous catch.
He just froze and got lucky. |
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Yes in all the confusion ,he forgot to call one
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at first it does seem like luck...
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if you cant beat'em
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russell was supposed to throw the int earlier
i think he might even get a bonus |
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the cowboys and their backers > who were robbed against the packers> who choked away an unloseable game to seattle> who "threw it" against the patriots
should feel most aggrieved but well done patriot backers you lucky pricks |
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and whoever was laying seattle at 1.40 on the 1/2 yard line thank you
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Watching it back now. 1st & Goal at the 5, Lynch runs for 4 yards to the 1.
2nd & Goal at the 1 yard line.....disaster... |
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from the 1/2 yard line and clock ticking
belishek hears the seattle play call and decides to not take a time out? |
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how convenient
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credit to the inplay betfair layers
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boston strong
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lol
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only on 4th down should of they passed it, they wouldnt have had to worry about it if they would of handed it to marshawn
marshawn would of had game winning td and superbowl mvp... he got his comeuppance from how he treated ''the man'' |
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Having had a few hours to sleep on the game, yes the consensus would be that the choice to throw was ill advised and running it would, in all likelihood got a championship winning TD. For me though, Russell Wilson throughout the 4th quarter, showed a naivety / inexperience / arrogance, call it what you will. A QB of the experience of a Rodgers / Brady, Manning etc would have just pounded away, eaten up the 4th quarter clock and walked away a winner. In the 4th quarter the Hawks had two 3 and outs and a crazy unsportsmanlike conduct penalty on Earl Thomas, that gave field position, and the ball back to Brady to do what Brady can (and did).
To be 10 points up going into the 4th quarter and lose, just stinks the place out. |
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Great game. Agree that it will now be overlooked at why Belichick didn't call a timeout with 50+ seconds remaining - very odd and the play call by the Seahawks to throw was just brainless. If anything, being stopped on second down with the run wouldn't have been the worst result in the world any way as the Seahawks could have then taken another timeout which effectively would have given the Patriots no time to get a field goal. Surely the percentage call was run on second down, run on third down and if needed they still had time to throw it on fourth down. Even though this would have been fairly obvious, the Patriots and teams in general always struggle to hold Lynch to less than a yard due to his ability to pick up yards after the first hit. Also if the Patriots managed to stop them three times one yard out then at least you would have made them earn the victory not just hand it to them. I thought the Patriots were the better side except in the third quarter where I think going in at 14-14 deflated them a bit as they should have had a fair lead going in at HT and the Seahawks seized the moment in the third quarter to build their lead.
Interesting to see how the Seahawks react next season as even though I felt the Patriots were the better team, as the Packers were against them, the way the game panned out the Seahawks should have won back to back Superbowls. I also agree that Brady was a lazy vote for MVP. Two poor picks mixed in with some excellent throws but in that type of game it nearly always goes to the quarterback. I wonder how many points Dallas will win the Superbowl by next season - Go Tony!! |
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Go Tony indeed
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LMAO, what a finish last night
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OMFG,
So distraught was I two weeks I haven't watched or talked about NFL. I thought I'd watch the final of course. Had my steak and bottle of wine and fell asleep before the end of the first quarter before the Seahwaks tied it. I had a deja flu moment when I was watching" live " highlights today. The the catch off the body confirmed what I was fearing. I thought Packers were better than Seahawks and a Final showdown between the two gunslingers Rogers V Brady was what would have made the best final. OK this was as exciting. I am glad Seahawks lost because of a bad play call ( absolutely agree with you swagger ). McCarthy must be chuckling after his misdemeanours in the Championship game. The best team won. Good luck to them. p.s. I am not bitter and twisted as a packers fan, just seething but looking forward to next season |
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Swagger, I disagree.....I thought Belicheck made the right call re timeouts.
Having two timeouts with 20+ secs remaining is still enough in the NFL to get into field goal range......look at Seattle did at the end of the first half with their timeouts in tact and not much time on the clock He essentially thought Seattle would score on their next play. He probably wants them to score on their next play. If they hadn't, Seattle would had to have called a timeout or have one run or two pass plays to get it into the end zone By not calling a timeout when you thought he should kinda spooked Seattle and in the end they made the wrong call It's all about risk and reward and Belicheck got it right IMHO |
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nugget 02 Feb 15 04:38
the cowboys and their backers > who were robbed against the packers> who choked away an unloseable game to seattle> who "threw it" against the patriots should feel most aggrieved but well done patriot backers you lucky pricks --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What about the Lions who were "robbed" against the Cowboys - if you want to bring it back that far |
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I don't think so many teams have ever had so many tough losses in the play-offs ever (and even the winner was a millimetre away from heartbreak):-
1. If Patriots had lost then all the talk would have been about the lucky catch that set-up the winning TD 2. Seahawks who now look like being haunted by "the call" - I think the biggest play I've ever seen 3. Packers - tough loss given their position, just needed to run for easy 1st down after the interception 4. Cowboys - tough break on Bryant's catch - though mind you it wasn't catch (as the rules stand) 5. Ravens a bit aggrieved about the ineligible receiver a turning point in that match 6. Lions - not getting the PI call - terrible decision, and may well have been enough for them to beat the Cowboys |
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The season has flown by, thoroughly enjoyed it, and what a superbowl to close the season, incredible finish.
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great season.brilliant superbowl but aftertiming I know, a 'naked bootleg' was made for Russell to the right corner. if it wasn't on, throw the ball away ,still 19 seconds left with a time out left......have naked bootlegs been taken out of the playbooks,cant remember the last one i've seen ????
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A decision by Carroll that he will take to the grave. No sense or logic in the call. Feel sorry for the Seattle fans.
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Some interesting points:
The Seahawks offensive line were ranked 2nd in power situations this year, New England's defense in power situations ranked LAST. 22 of Marshawn Lynch's 24 carries went for at least 1 yard. Ricardo Lockette, the Seahwaks WR that was beat to the ball for the game-winning INT has 18 CAREER receptions! Luke Wilson, remember him? Was he even thrown to all game????? despite being covered 1 on 1 by Patrick Chung on occasions. |
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interesting stats RDB,in relation to Pete Carroll its very easy to criticise and it wasnt a good call at all but these are the kind of decisions that get made in high pressure situations,thats what pressure does to you,same as most other sports...
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Carroll has always liked to play against the odds and do the unconventional, sometimes this pays off, sometimes it doesn't. However, he usually makes these calls when they have to, they needed points against GB to get back into the game, so faked the field goal. That is the time to make these plays.
At this point in the game, there was no point in gambling, playing the percentage calls would have won him the game 9 times out of 10. However he tries to defend the call, re: clock management, everyone knows it is the worst decision in SB history and cost his team back to back rings. |
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yeah true enough,could be a tall order for Seattle to get back for a 3rd SB in a row too...
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