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Wallflower
23 Nov 13 09:16
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Always think Week 12 is where the business begins....always liked the ring of Week 12 for some reason...!

This week it's close to make-or-break for all the 4-6 teams - while not completely gone you'd have to say any of them that go to 4-7 have a serious uphill battle - i.e win out and go 5-0 to have any chance of post-season.

Ravens - lose at home to the Jets go to 4-7, while not gone as they could finish 5-0 and get through, but @Lions, @Bengals and home to Patriots its hard to see that happening. I can't get it out of my head they are still contenders! Admittedly the darkest of dark horses, pity, as I said before if Boldin was still there they'd be right in the mix

Titans & @ Raiders - more 4-6 teams, Titans are away to both Colts and Broncos in next two weeks, so lose here and its certainly curtains. Raiders have Chiefs and Broncos both at home in their schedule. Loser here is 8-8 at very best. So I'd say for certain loser here is history.

Steelers & @ Browns - yet again 4-6 teams clashing!As per match-up above, hard to see loser getting to 9-7

Chargers - @ Chiefs. Have to play them again, plus Broncos - if they lose they are not done, but hanging on by their fingernails. This could be a close one, sneaky feeling for an upset here.

Giants - beat Dallas at home and they are contenders to win the divisionShocked, lose and its "all she wrote", they'd be 2 and half games behind Cowboys.

Packers - although 5-5 and not 4-6, its the same scenario, lose and hard to see them making play-offs given the situation in the NFC. Hope they win - as the Packers with Rodgers (best QB in the NFL imo) could potentially beat Seahawks in Seattle.

Not in the prediction game myself but if pressed on these games:

Ravens, Raiders, Steelers, Chargers, and Packers keep alive

Titans, Browns and Giants preparing for last rites, looking for a miracle
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Report Swardean November 23, 2013 11:16 AM GMT
Agreed,make or break week,although I think titans will win and stay alive, they are much better than their record imo
Report sideshowbob November 23, 2013 12:32 PM GMT
giants arent contenders to win ****.

last 5 games are at washington, detroit and san diego. home to seattle and washington. be lucky to win 2 of those. probably end the season 5-11. philly will win at least 9 games. and are currently 2 games better off in the division so the giants probably have to win all their remaining 6 games to have a slim chance of winning the division. not a prayer of that happening.
Report Wallflower November 23, 2013 12:45 PM GMT
If Giants beat Cowboys, they are certainly contenders......only because of the division. I don't think they are very good, but not as bad as some have made out - have history of finishing strong.

I think Eagles will probably do it (I certainly hope so, a long-standing Eagles fan of over 20 yearsHappy)...but they haven't beaten sh1t either, and I still regard them as flakey.

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I think Titans are ok too, but I also think Raiders are alright as well. Intriguing game
Report sideshowbob November 23, 2013 1:00 PM GMT
i think the cowgirls will beat them by 20 points. seriously. even if the giants somehow win the game, they arent gonna get back to 8-8. rubbish team. their points difference is worse than tampa bays. theres only 3 teams in the entire league who have scored less points than the giants. yet somehow cos they scrape wins against philly, oakland, minnesota and a rodgers-less packers theyre in the play off race. no way jose. the division is between eagles and cowgirls. gonna come down to the decider in week 17 Cool
Report Still standing November 23, 2013 10:43 PM GMT
NYG NYG.  Beware of those Giants.  They were a good team playing poorly.  Now that they can smell some sort of success, I expect their darling princesses to perform.  They could easily finish out with a 6 - 0 run.  Easily is probably not the right word, but how about they have a better then average probability to finish out 6-0, than 3-3.  Let's hear from all the fans of those pretender Seahawks pipe up.

Dallas is easily defeated tomorrow, not that I'll be betting them because I don't trust any game to go the way I want pre kickoff, but I suspect a healthy in play bet on those Giants will be in order.
Eli has had something wrong with him almost all year, but he's starting to click, maybe because his guys are getting better. Romo is just a stats producer, without results.  Who would you rather have ?

Rest of the team, NYG or Cowboys, I'll take New York.  Right now anyway.
Report therhino November 24, 2013 8:52 AM GMT
Why have KC drifted?
Report sideshowbob November 24, 2013 1:23 PM GMT
like i said, only 3 teams in the entire league have scored less points so far than the giants. biggest mystery on the planet why everybody is suddenly masturbating over them. id take 5k at even money they dont reach 7 wins.

obviously they can win against dallas, i dont think they will, but its possible. anybody can beat anybody especially at home. but dallas should be favourites, without any doubt whatsoever. theyre 5-5 cos of an insanely tough schedule so far. they just need to keep calm and do what they normally do. if they lose, its cos the new orleans battering has shaken confidence. they totally threw away the win at detroit, couldnt have had the game more in the bag if they tried. only lost at kansas by 1 point, lost that crazy shootout to denver. could easily be sat here 8-2. if they had the piss easy schedule the likes of denver and kansas city have had, dallas would be 8-2. they arent the best team in the nfc, but theyre only 5-5 cos of the butal schedule so far. and im no dallas fan, i pretty much hate them.
Report Srichaphan or Ancic? November 24, 2013 4:44 PM GMT
Steelers are the bet of the day @ Browns imo.
Report Wallflower November 24, 2013 5:18 PM GMT
As per other thread, I would have thought Dallas at 2.32 here, is bet of the day.......at worst evens money chance imo.

Though I agree Steelers at 2.3 represents good value as well.
Report grayhawk November 24, 2013 6:40 PM GMT
I'm with you on the Dallas price Wallflower......surprised they've been matched @ 2.38
Report HowieTheRookie. November 24, 2013 6:54 PM GMT
Two inept offences on Sky at the moment
Report Wallflower November 24, 2013 6:59 PM GMT
......coupled with 2 good defenses......saw the wind at the start, presumed unders would be a good bet/trade but didn't botherSad

...red due to an over-stake, hard work at the moment
Report Hank Hill November 24, 2013 7:08 PM GMT
Texans really have quit for the season Sad
Report HowieTheRookie. November 24, 2013 7:20 PM GMT
me too Wallflower, I wouldn;t have bothered with this game if it had not been on Sky Sad
Report Wallflower November 24, 2013 7:28 PM GMT
...I only trade on televised match (usually), need good liquidity for my type of trading, so have to go with it. Match is ok, - I'm the problem - I just got on both teams at wrong time....but a bit heavy (not too bad)...can red out now for 6% loss on current bank.
Report Srichaphan or Ancic? November 24, 2013 7:28 PM GMT
Browns rarely win when down 10 pts at HT. 2 wins in 40 matches with -10 pts or more. That doesn't equate to 1.3s.
Report Srichaphan or Ancic? November 24, 2013 7:30 PM GMT
Pittsburgh 2 defeats in 45 matches when 10pts+ at HT.
Report Beaniash November 24, 2013 7:31 PM GMT
PANTHERS BURSTING SOME BANKS TODAY
Report Wallflower November 24, 2013 7:58 PM GMT
Big sack, FG for Ravens here will be huge, give 12 pts lead....hard to see Jets scoring 2 TDS without reply against the wind in the final quarter
Report Wallflower November 24, 2013 8:00 PM GMT
Steelers looks like a very good call atm, SoA
Report Srichaphan or Ancic? November 24, 2013 8:05 PM GMT
Ravens next. They rarely lose when up at HT at home, so 1.12 is value.
Report Srichaphan or Ancic? November 24, 2013 8:05 PM GMT
1.2, even
Report Wallflower November 24, 2013 8:20 PM GMT
....i was wrong, wind in their back final quarter.....not that it'll make much difference
Report Wallflower November 24, 2013 8:24 PM GMT
.....stunned at the Jets and Geno Smith, why play him if they are blatantly showing everyone (Smith included) they have zero confidence in himShocked.......I'd hate to see the back-up
Report Swardean November 24, 2013 8:32 PM GMT
Please sky take this off the TV, its burning my eyes
Report DirkDiggler November 24, 2013 8:38 PM GMT
bad choice again
Report HowieTheRookie. November 24, 2013 8:39 PM GMT
Easily the worst Sky game of the year
Report Swardean November 24, 2013 8:41 PM GMT
Week 12 and on Sunday coverage sky have still not shown a Seattle game... pretty impressive for the team with the best record in the league
Report DirkDiggler November 24, 2013 8:42 PM GMT
If Geno Smith is the Jets QB of the future then Sanchez is Joe Montana. Poor choice though, SDKY makes game choices for all the wrong reasons, SD KC looked a real good game and it has been.
Report Swardean November 24, 2013 8:45 PM GMT
Even the normally enthusiastic Cecil looks like he is ready to slit his wrists
Report Still standing November 24, 2013 8:51 PM GMT
I wonder why they show the games they do.  What's the deal ?  Of course it's all to do with money and not just some NFL ignorant Sky guy picking what games will be televised from his asre.
Report Swardean November 24, 2013 8:52 PM GMT
Jax gonna win!
Report unders101 November 24, 2013 8:54 PM GMT
How the fook am I fretting on overs in the Lions Buccs Cry
Report Wallflower November 24, 2013 8:55 PM GMT
I think they do ok generally.......last year they did well I wrote in and said so, got a shout out by big CecilHappy....as I said I had complained in 2011 when there was just some illogical selections.

Jets and Ravens would have been one of my 3 picks for this slot today, hard to get it right, all the time (we all should knowCool)

Though given we see the Ravens on Thursday again, it was my No.3. 

Hard to pick matches and not have a blow-out at some stage.
Report Hank Hill November 24, 2013 9:03 PM GMT
I am not sure Texans can win another game this season. What an absolutely horrible season Cry
Report dlarssonf November 24, 2013 9:08 PM GMT
Stafford has had a horror show
Report Hank Hill November 24, 2013 9:18 PM GMT
Great drive by Car, especially after 4th and 10 on own 20
Report Hank Hill November 24, 2013 9:29 PM GMT
Very nice comeback for the pack too - vikes matched at 1-04
Report milla445 November 24, 2013 9:50 PM GMT
Tie incoming Confused

1.04 backers on their knees right now Laugh
Report Wallflower November 24, 2013 9:52 PM GMT
they'll be ok.......tie is void?
Report milla445 November 24, 2013 9:52 PM GMT
Yep, tie is void
Report Hank Hill November 24, 2013 9:54 PM GMT
lol yes milla, and some people gutted. Not involved myself, but been on both ends before
Report milla445 November 24, 2013 9:56 PM GMT
Some people gutted, some incredibly relieved. I'll lose a bit of green, but nowt major.
Report Wallflower November 24, 2013 9:57 PM GMT
FFS - how was that a penaltyCryShocked - it's ruining the game...........QB protection has gone far too farAngry

(Doesn't bother me financially, level small green, but if it did I'd be fuming)
Report Srichaphan or Ancic? November 24, 2013 9:58 PM GMT
Next bet Tennessee
Report milla445 November 24, 2013 10:00 PM GMT
Slim pickings for the 9pm games, I take it Sky's main match is the NFC Least game? Been on RedZone all evening as Jets-Ravens didn't exactly grab me.
Report Wallflower November 24, 2013 10:04 PM GMT
Yep, Cowboys @ Giants.......could be good for trading though
Report Swardean November 24, 2013 10:05 PM GMT
I have never ever bet on the Cowboys and won't be starting tonight
Report Alfie Green November 24, 2013 10:06 PM GMT
Is there anywhere I could have bet on the tie in the Minnesota game? Just lost 4k green on both sides.
Report milla445 November 24, 2013 10:08 PM GMT
Cards stomping all over Indy
Report Swardean November 24, 2013 10:10 PM GMT
NFC West... kings of the leauge
Report Wallflower November 24, 2013 10:10 PM GMT
.....obviously was a tricky match for Colts; I even expected them to fall behind, but not that......Shocked
Report milla445 November 24, 2013 10:13 PM GMT
Amazing how a couple seasons ago the NFC West winners were 7-9 for the season. Now it's probably the best division in the NFL.
Report Beaniash November 24, 2013 10:22 PM GMT
NAH BRO ONLY REASON ITS GOOD IS COS 49ERS ARE MESSING UP. ARIZONA HASNT BEAT ANYONE WORTHY SINCE THEY BEAT PANTHERS 6 WEEKS AGO. LETS NOT GET CARRIED AWAY
Report Wallflower November 24, 2013 10:25 PM GMT
...... don't see a better division (not that I pay much attention to strong divisions/conferences anyway).....but looking at them from that context, its by far the strongest
Report unders101 November 24, 2013 10:28 PM GMT
Giants in the redzone are pathetic
Report Wallflower November 24, 2013 10:30 PM GMT
..... think commentators (Aikman) could be right, Manning might have saw nothing open.....hard to believe it was the call (could be wrong, if it was the call - then shows a complete lack of confidence throwing the ball)
Report DirkDiggler November 24, 2013 10:46 PM GMT
i wonder by andre brown has been cut by 6 teams....
Report grayhawk November 24, 2013 10:57 PM GMT
Missed the ko...who receives in 2nd half of Giants-Dallas game?
Report dlarssonf November 24, 2013 11:00 PM GMT
Giants receive grayhawk
Report grayhawk November 24, 2013 11:02 PM GMT
Cheers dl.
Report Wallflower November 24, 2013 11:23 PM GMT
....Rolle, that was sillyAngry
Report Wallflower November 24, 2013 11:33 PM GMT
grayhawk.......Packers still there - got some help from Bucs and RamsHappy
Report unders101 November 24, 2013 11:36 PM GMT
What a mistake by the cowboys Laugh
Report milla445 November 24, 2013 11:36 PM GMT
Cowboys LaughLaugh
Report Wallflower November 24, 2013 11:36 PM GMT
Shocked - defense
Report Wallflower November 24, 2013 11:43 PM GMT
....Colts don't seem to wake-up until 2nd halfHappy - few weeks in a row
Report Wallflower November 24, 2013 11:46 PM GMT
Very ill-disciplined for a Coughlin team
Report Wallflower November 25, 2013 12:01 AM GMT
..Bryant...trying too hard, think there is another mistake in him...head looks frazzle since Lions game
Report unders101 November 25, 2013 12:04 AM GMT
My god, how poor is this giants offence
Report Wallflower November 25, 2013 12:05 AM GMT
..... are you on overs again?
Report milla445 November 25, 2013 12:07 AM GMT
Titans sneak it at the death, barring a miracle.
Report unders101 November 25, 2013 12:07 AM GMT
How did you guess Laugh
Report Wallflower November 25, 2013 12:09 AM GMT
...your name gave it awayCool

lose on the Lions/Bucs?
Report unders101 November 25, 2013 12:11 AM GMT
Yeah, no idea hoe tbh
Report unders101 November 25, 2013 12:12 AM GMT
how
Report unders101 November 25, 2013 12:19 AM GMT
Come on, need a 2 point conversion now
Report unders101 November 25, 2013 12:19 AM GMT
GTFI
Report milla445 November 25, 2013 12:23 AM GMT
Wonder if we'll see good Romo or bad Romo this drive
Report lendmeurwheelbarrow November 25, 2013 12:23 AM GMT
MAKE SOME NOIIISSSE
Report unders101 November 25, 2013 12:25 AM GMT
I am, the neighbours are knocking on the wall
Report db1974 November 25, 2013 12:26 AM GMT
Clutch throw & catch
Report milla445 November 25, 2013 12:28 AM GMT
Another 3rd down conversion
Report Wallflower November 25, 2013 12:29 AM GMT
I think he gets intercepted on a throw to BryantHappy
Report Wallflower November 25, 2013 12:31 AM GMT
..unders101, whats the number?
Report milla445 November 25, 2013 12:34 AM GMT
Thought he'd fumbled it again Shocked
Report lendmeurwheelbarrow November 25, 2013 12:35 AM GMT
field goal no gimme from here
Report Swardean November 25, 2013 12:36 AM GMT
thats a catch in my book
Report unders101 November 25, 2013 12:37 AM GMT
44.5 wallflower
Report unders101 November 25, 2013 12:37 AM GMT
Laid off at 1.02
Report Wallflower November 25, 2013 12:39 AM GMT
very wiseHappy
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