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By:
Glossy
When: 22 Jan 12 23:18
All reviews in the last 2 mins are made by the booth Lix
By:
HARRY22
When: 22 Jan 12 23:18
commentator goes with evans TD also
By:
OVERSEAS
When: 22 Jan 12 23:18
thats a TD...
By:
Lix
When: 22 Jan 12 23:18
ah ok , cheers glossy
By:
ReimerpYsatnaf
When: 22 Jan 12 23:18
It was a TD looking at it again Cry
By:
d13phe
When: 22 Jan 12 23:18
harry is right

he has possession
By:
Welshie5121
When: 22 Jan 12 23:18

Jan 22, 2012 -- 11:17PM, Lix wrote:


could the Ravens have reviewed that TD drop


I thought they were supposed to review anything in the last 2 mins!

By:
Mariner Paul
When: 22 Jan 12 23:18
Both feet need to be down. No TD.
By:
db1974
When: 22 Jan 12 23:19
Flacco couldn't make that 1st down - he threw it because he was being tackled
By:
d13phe
When: 22 Jan 12 23:19
his second foot was down
By:
HARRY22
When: 22 Jan 12 23:19
incaseof you dont have to make a football move in the endzone
By:
Welshie5121
When: 22 Jan 12 23:19
I think he knocks it out before the left foot comes down.

Split seconds though
By:
db1974
When: 22 Jan 12 23:19
I think it's a TD now
By:
furrelli
When: 22 Jan 12 23:19
well thats 67p more than me Laugh jus couldn't see the Ravens loosing it, they were moving the ball ground & air & holding the Pats to zip & then...... win some loose some
By:
OVERSEAS
When: 22 Jan 12 23:19
that game will haunt the Ravens..how they didnt win that or at least take to OT beggers belief...
By:
HARRY22
When: 22 Jan 12 23:19
flacco could have dived for 1st down with ease..then spike the ball
By:
Glossy
When: 22 Jan 12 23:20
It only looks like he has posession on Slo-mo replay.

He never established posession or made a football move. As the comms rightly say, a different level of posession is required for a TD than in the outfield.
By:
HARRY22
When: 22 Jan 12 23:20
if the giants get throught tonight they will beat the patriots
By:
Kriskin
When: 22 Jan 12 23:20
Paul - as stated in the studio the rules are different when in the end zone.
By:
Mariner Paul
When: 22 Jan 12 23:20
The balls popped out before his left foot is down.
By:
incaseof
When: 22 Jan 12 23:21
no in end zone you have to maintain possession to complete the catch
All you really have to do is watch Bengals late TD vs RAvens this year
By:
HARRY22
When: 22 Jan 12 23:21
that was strange how they didnt even look at it
By:
d13phe
When: 22 Jan 12 23:21
completely different scenario incaseof
By:
grayhawk
When: 22 Jan 12 23:22
After reviewing on SKY+ second foot was NOT down before it was popped out.
By:
db1974
When: 22 Jan 12 23:22
Harry, how could Flacco dive for a first down?

You mean on a QB sneak?
By:
singero
When: 22 Jan 12 23:22
not sure what the exact rule is, but need to maintain possession maybe 3 steps or to the ground (in or out of bounds) afaik
By:
themover
When: 22 Jan 12 23:22
Touchdown and conversion receptions in the end zone are made when a receiver catch a legal pass and have possession of the football and both feet in bounds within the end zone.
By:
Mariner Paul
When: 22 Jan 12 23:23

Jan 22, 2012 -- 11:22PM, grayhawk wrote:


After reviewing on SKY+ second foot was NOT down before it was popped out.


Correct.

By:
incaseof
When: 22 Jan 12 23:24
not really, it's all about if you got possession of it...you can have two feet down inbound and drop the ball when you're out of bounds and it's incomplete...have to maintain possession...never did
By:
singero
When: 22 Jan 12 23:25
"A player is in possession when he is in firm grip and control of the ball inbounds. To gain possession of a loose ball that has been caught, intercepted or recovered, a player must have complete control of the ball and have both feet completely on the ground inbounds or any other part of his body, other than his hands, on the ground inbounds. If the player loses the ball while simultaneously touching both feet or any other part of his body to the ground or if there is any doubt that the acts were simultaneous, there is no possession. This rule applies to the field of play and in the end zone."

This Byzantine blather is proceeded by an even more confusing "Note 1," known as the "going-to-the-ground" clause. The G2G states, "A player who goes to the ground in the process of attempting to secure possession of a loose ball [with or without contact by a defender] must maintain control of the ball after he touches the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone. If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control, there is no possession. If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground, it is a catch, interception or recovery."
By:
jayc27
When: 22 Jan 12 23:25
Talking margins here....I though 2nd foot was down then popped out...after slow mo it all happens at same time, tough call.....gutted
By:
d13phe
When: 22 Jan 12 23:25
its over now anyway, its in the book as i say

really cant see pats winning it though

they arent good enough on defence

the giants ould murder that secondary
By:
Swardean
When: 22 Jan 12 23:25
I'm sure that play will be under the microscope and interesting to see what the media says.

Feel terrible for the kicker, reminds me of the bodged FG from Dallas against the seahawks a few years ago.  That was incredible.
By:
unders101
When: 22 Jan 12 23:26
Steve Tyler looks like he has just been dug up Shocked
By:
Agent G
When: 22 Jan 12 23:26
none of the ravens coaching staff thought it was a TD, but those that lost on Betfair did.


betfair losers are probably right Wink
By:
singero
When: 22 Jan 12 23:26
relevant part:

If the player loses the ball while simultaneously touching both feet or any other part of his body to the ground or if there is any doubt that the acts were simultaneous, there is no possession.
By:
singero
When: 22 Jan 12 23:26
relevant part:

If the player loses the ball while simultaneously touching both feet or any other part of his body to the ground or if there is any doubt that the acts were simultaneous, there is no possession.
By:
Beaniash
When: 22 Jan 12 23:26
great game ... on to the next 1 guys
By:
Mariner Paul
When: 22 Jan 12 23:27
The call stands. There are never any bad calls! Grin
By:
themover
When: 22 Jan 12 23:28
great game, thought Ravens did really well against what was expected to be a comfy win in most places for NE. Going to stick with the D team a go for the Giants in the next one Crazy
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