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skyblues
28 Apr 11 19:52
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Yeah its not worth watching and all that, but as its the only nfl action for a little while, is anyone elose staying up to watch a little online tonight?
Shame no liquidity in any markets for a few fun bets.
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Report punkha1 April 28, 2011 9:49 PM BST
Can this be watched online for free or do you have to sign up for gamepass/nfl thingy?
Report grayhawk April 28, 2011 10:05 PM BST
Live on ESPN......SKY plus for me and watch tomorrow morning.....or should i watch the wedding coverage Grin
Report d13phe April 28, 2011 10:35 PM BST
Be interesting to see if the panthers take Newton. It looks pretty much nailed on but I don't reckon he will do much to improve them. They still don't have a defends since peppers left.
Report Cockney Kid April 28, 2011 10:38 PM BST
i guarantee Cam Newton will be a bust. About as many red flags as you can want, and i am certain wont be able to read NFL defences. If Carolina draft him no1, expect another 3-5 years of no progress. Patrick Peterson looks like a lock for a star NFl player. The biggest thing I notice from drafts is how poor most Defensive ends, and to a lesser extent defensive tackles are taken high up. Vernon Gholston, Aaron Mayblin, Larry English, Derrick Harvey all busts within 2 years. If you look at the NFL, the top DE's often have come later (exceptions of course).

However my hot tip (for what its worth) is Ryan kerrigan will turn out the steal of the first round. Increasing production through his years, most forced fumbles in his final year plus second for sacks, consistently productive yet will go around 16 as perceived as unathletic (below about 3 DE's including absurdly robert quinn who will be another bust) despite a 4.68 40 time. I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions about why  viewed as unathletic (same reason Jared allen was viewed as this and went in the 4th round) but this guy will be a star. just hope he doesn't go to the jags

anyone else got any players they are looking out for?
Report d13phe April 28, 2011 10:49 PM BST
The quarterback from TCU (andy dalton)- Is the most accomplished QB I have seen in the college system for years. I don't watch a whole lot of college stuff admittedly

He doesn't seem to have the hype that some of the other guys have but he is going to be a very good franchise QB.
Report skyblues April 28, 2011 11:19 PM BST
Well im mainly looking out for who the chiefs pick tbh, id love a wr to go with bowe but think they go oline or dt again.

Talking of d line busts tyson jackson at 3 from us 2 years ago could go down as a bust if he doesnt step up this season.

Ive fallen off a little from the draft talk this season usually well involved, main players im looking out for are aj green, ryan mallet and mark ingram who is slipping like he is on ice.

Can watch the draft live on nfl.com i think.
Report skyblues April 28, 2011 11:31 PM BST
is it unreasonable to think the bengals or cards take gabbert at 4 or 5. I can see either off these 2 teams taking him tempted to bet but also cinci could go wr and cards need help all over.
Report Phi Gamma Delta April 28, 2011 11:32 PM BST
I agree with you Cockney Kid. Cam Newton bust written all over him. He is a fantastic athlete, but does he have the ability to read defenses pre-snap and during his drop back? He had a simple offense to run at Auburn where all he had to do was make one read and if the receiver wasn't open he would run.
Patrick Peterson looks too big to play corner in the NFL. He reminds me of Micheal Jenkins or Tebucky Jones, bigger corners who couldn't turn their hips quick enough to play corner in the NFL and ended up at free safety.
Kerrigan looks like he will be a steal for someone. I'm hoping the Patriots get him if they stay put in the 1st round.
The player who I think will be the biggest steal though is Roy Helu Jr the running back from Nebraska. He looks like he has it all and in a down year for running backs I hope he is still around in the 3rd round for the Patriots.
Report STEPTOES YARD April 28, 2011 11:40 PM BST
lads

why does the NFL season only last 5 months

Surely the demand is there to extend this for another couple of months

Have noticed on both sky and espn weekly nfl programmes going over latest news and discussing teams.
This seems strange with new season so far away.
Report Cockney Kid April 28, 2011 11:44 PM BST
When I look at this draft, I just don't see any top drawer quarterbacks. Compared to Stafford, Bradford, Ryan etc taken early none compare, and if andrew luck was in from Stanford rather than going back for a year he would be no 1 by a mile. Difference is so many teams need a qb. I think if anyone was to become an elite qb it would be Ryan Mallet. Clearly a maturity issue, but can make throws, comfortable in pro style offence etc. a real boom or bust pick.

I also think New Enland may take JJ Watt as a front 3 man.

Finally re skyblues i would add Glenn Dorsey to the list of kansas DL busts who for a number 3 (?) pick seems to have done very little, whilst lower ranked guys like tamba ali and the tight end whose name i forget seem to have done well
Report Cockney Kid April 28, 2011 11:46 PM BST
they are trying to extend the season but player bodies just take such a beating that if you did say 30 games the superbowl you'd have so many injuries you'd need your punter to play tight end
Report skyblues April 28, 2011 11:54 PM BST
moeaki was a steal hali was around 16th-18th i think 1st rd and his engine is immense, dorset defo on the bust side but im more concerned with jackson at moment.
Thinking gabbert now slips past 5 after reading some cards reports with green going at 4, just dont know weather to have an intrest bet at 5/6.
Id like to bet marcell at 2 but cant see me getting a bet on.
Report STEPTOES YARD April 29, 2011 12:05 AM BST
cheers cockney

Thought it must be to do with impact on the players bodies.
Report Nilsson Schmilsson April 29, 2011 12:06 AM BST
IS TOM PETTY DOING THE HALF TIME SHOW???
Report the nugget April 29, 2011 12:09 AM BST
Picks 7-12 are going to have a huge impact on this draft should be fascinating viewing if certain players slip as there are many teams from 13-22 who are keen to trade down.
Report the nugget April 29, 2011 12:34 AM BST
Wish Bill would STFU
Report skyblues April 29, 2011 1:03 AM BST
newt number 1.
Report the nugget April 29, 2011 1:07 AM BST
1.02 landed
Report GoBallistic April 29, 2011 1:08 AM BST
The only good news for Carolina is that they probably won't have to pay him $50m
Report the nugget April 29, 2011 1:13 AM BST
Thomas, Tebow and now Von Miller LaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report skyblues April 29, 2011 1:27 AM BST
cmon cards go peterson and take qb early 2nd. You know it makes sense.
Report the nugget April 29, 2011 1:29 AM BST
Apparently the Falcons came very close to securing a deal to go and pick AJ green there, they are trying to make a move for Julio Jones now. Interesting if they find some way to get him ahead of the Browns.
Report skyblues April 29, 2011 1:30 AM BST
id be happy with that.
Report skyblues April 29, 2011 1:31 AM BST
get in.
Report GoBallistic April 29, 2011 1:31 AM BST
4 v good players from 2 - 5
Report skyblues April 29, 2011 1:33 AM BST
3 more qbs in this rd and 3 more runs in the mets game and im off to bed happy.
Report skyblues April 29, 2011 1:33 AM BST
atl move up to 6th pick.
Report scoobytoo April 29, 2011 1:37 AM BST
giving up far too much IMO
Report skyblues April 29, 2011 1:38 AM BST
man thats costly 21 spots. 2nd and 4th this year and 1st and 4th next year jeez.
Report skyblues April 29, 2011 1:38 AM BST
for a wr and you have a number 1 wr already, defo give up too much imho.
Report GoBallistic April 29, 2011 1:40 AM BST
Surprising to see Atlanta reach like that
Report skyblues April 29, 2011 1:40 AM BST
blaine to go here?
Report the nugget April 29, 2011 1:40 AM BST
Might be a surprise with Aldon Smith taken here, will be a mistake.
Report scoobytoo April 29, 2011 1:40 AM BST
Gabbert next to SF (imo)
Report inner city sumo April 29, 2011 1:41 AM BST
I am unhappy with that move. Very unlike what we've done in recent seasons. Should have waited our turn and picked up the best TE on the board at that time. Sad
Report skyblues April 29, 2011 1:42 AM BST
And they tried to get to 4 for aj green, a bit diffrent for him imo as he seems to be very special, but this moves seems a bit risky and maybe a desperation pick when they didnt need 1.
Report skyblues April 29, 2011 1:42 AM BST
good shout nugget.
Report the nugget April 29, 2011 1:42 AM BST
Told you guys Silly
Report skyblues April 29, 2011 1:44 AM BST
blaine goes next 2 picks?
Report scoobytoo April 29, 2011 1:44 AM BST
rapid fire tonight
Report the nugget April 29, 2011 1:44 AM BST
There we go now it is open now with Prince, Gabbert, Smith and Quinn still available. Could be a few more moves coming now.
Report the nugget April 29, 2011 1:45 AM BST
Fcuk me all open now!!!!
Report scoobytoo April 29, 2011 1:45 AM BST
a shocker
Report GoBallistic April 29, 2011 1:46 AM BST
Locker Laugh
Report skyblues April 29, 2011 1:46 AM BST
hmmm if skins dont take gabbery here, gonna be a intresting.
Report the nugget April 29, 2011 1:48 AM BST
Locker will be the best QB in this draft, still a surprising pick though.
Report GoBallistic April 29, 2011 1:49 AM BST
I quite like Locker but surely a round too early
Report skyblues April 29, 2011 1:49 AM BST
whers the o linean crash coming. was o-u 6.5
Report skyblues April 29, 2011 2:01 AM BST
hmmm a little surprised jags made this move.
Report the nugget April 29, 2011 2:04 AM BST
Interesting to see what they gave up to move from 16 to 10, probably more than you would think.
Report skyblues April 29, 2011 2:07 AM BST
yeah what do you think 2 2nds and a 5th or 2nd and 4th this year 3 next?
Report the nugget April 29, 2011 2:08 AM BST
They are saying just a 2nd this year.

Buccaneers may make a move soon as they want to get one of the DE
Report skyblues April 29, 2011 2:09 AM BST
vikes could trade down here.
Report the nugget April 29, 2011 2:13 AM BST
Detroit are trying to trade down but have no takers atm.
Report skyblues April 29, 2011 2:14 AM BST
yeah id imagine a few look to trade down here, vikes cant get a move either.
Report scoobytoo April 29, 2011 2:17 AM BST
madness
Report the nugget April 29, 2011 2:17 AM BST
As a Pakers fan delighted with that pick.
Report skyblues April 29, 2011 2:17 AM BST
lol gruden laughing at the pick.
Report the nugget April 29, 2011 2:18 AM BST
Packers
Report the nugget April 29, 2011 2:19 AM BST
Mallett and Dalton could both go in the first round now too. Shocked
Report scoobytoo April 29, 2011 2:21 AM BST
now thats a good pick
Report the nugget April 29, 2011 2:22 AM BST
How could they pass on Prince???
Report skyblues April 29, 2011 2:22 AM BST
wow that front is gonna be fearsome.
Report incaseof April 29, 2011 2:23 AM BST
Eagles has a chance to trade for Prince now
Report Money On7 April 29, 2011 2:24 AM BST
suh and fairley will cause havoc for 10 years
Report the nugget April 29, 2011 2:25 AM BST
So many good players available that fits needs, good player but they still have a shyte LB and DB group. Packers and Bears not going to run the ball on them anyway.
Report skyblues April 29, 2011 2:27 AM BST
cant see how the chiefs give up on an o lineman come their pick.
Report the nugget April 29, 2011 2:29 AM BST
Great Value for the Rams.
Report scoobytoo April 29, 2011 2:29 AM BST
just hope the dolphins dont reach for th QB .......yikes
Report scoobytoo April 29, 2011 2:35 AM BST
not so sure its value....but at least we might be in the luck sweepstakes :-)
Report the nugget April 29, 2011 2:36 AM BST
It fills a need scooby, slight reach but a better than Ingram would have been.
Report the nugget April 29, 2011 2:37 AM BST
Patriots going to get the Prince CryCry
Report scoobytoo April 29, 2011 2:37 AM BST
i wud have went for prince -made  CB an area of strength
Report incaseof April 29, 2011 2:41 AM BST
Pats should take Prince even if the need is DE...Prince too good to pass
Report the nugget April 29, 2011 2:49 AM BST
C*arp pick, really surprising too
Report skyblues April 29, 2011 2:50 AM BST
chargers surly take prince.
Report the nugget April 29, 2011 2:55 AM BST
They should have taken Cameron Jordan, Liuget just doesn't fit their scheme.
Report arrested development April 29, 2011 2:59 AM BST
Nobody wants Prince, Giants could use him ?
Report arrested development April 29, 2011 2:59 AM BST
Nobody wants Prince, Giants could use him ?
Report skyblues April 29, 2011 3:17 AM BST
trade a fecking trade at 3.17 am i was just ready for bed ffs. we better pick up a home run player for the hrs im putting in.
Report arrested development April 29, 2011 3:22 AM BST
gonna be dawning before your chiefs pick now !  strange pick from the browns, Peyton thanking his lord and saviour JC ffs !
Report d13phe April 29, 2011 7:25 AM BST
Saints have quietly done very well to get Ingram there

Some bizarre trading IMO
Report HowieTheRookie. April 29, 2011 9:40 AM BST
Wow - the Saints are having a superb draft, pick 24 gets them a player who was predicted to be top-10 in quite a few mock drafts, then the snare the top Running Back in the draft.

very pleased so farHappy
Report the nugget April 29, 2011 11:49 PM BST
You know Bush is going to be cut Howie.

Huge reach from the Redskins.
Report grayhawk April 30, 2011 12:22 AM BST
Bush tweeted last night......" thanks New Orleans it's BEEN fun " so they reported on ESPN.
Report the nugget April 30, 2011 12:30 AM BST
Stefen Wisniewski at 48 probably the best pick of the draft so far, who says Al Davis knows jack. Shocked
Report Nilsson Schmilsson April 30, 2011 10:27 AM BST
everyone after his 3rd round pick Laugh
Report furrelli April 30, 2011 6:54 PM BST
What are the Hawks doing Cry I know we need to build an OL but there's been a coupla reaches & then we take a LB when we're mostly fairly well set at that spot......
Report inner city sumo April 30, 2011 8:35 PM BST
Where's Reggie Bush going to end up? Why are they getting rid?
Report the nugget April 30, 2011 11:43 PM BST
Because he is an overpaid mug who doesn't produce much, he will end up wherever someone is willing to pay him decent money.
Report paulie bedders May 1, 2011 1:21 PM BST
Well done Shanny - sensible trading and Redskins don't usually end up in the same conversation.
I guess he has another FA deal coming for QB despite his comments about Beck
Report grayhawk May 2, 2011 4:17 PM BST
Still can't believe what Atlanta gave up for Julio Jones Shocked.....did they not reckon they needed help in the secondary after it getting mullared on their way out of the play offs.
Report inner city sumo May 2, 2011 11:57 PM BST
I'm not happy with our draft, what we gave up for Jones was tantamount to him being Larry Fitzgerald from day one, even then, still a reach. The only explanation I can come up with for the lack of defensive acquisitions is that we're going shopping in free agency, and that's normally expensive Cry

As for Bush, yeah on this first contract he's overpaid, but he's still a decent enough player to keep around surely, unless he's refusing to take a paycut.
Report History Maker May 11, 2011 1:50 PM BST
If anyone's interested, this was our first round (we did actually manage to get 32 people together to do this. I was New Orleans

1. Carolina - Cam Newton, QB, Auburn
2. Denver - Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson
3. New England from Buffalo - Robert Quinn, DE/OLB, North Carolina
4. Cincinnati - Nick Fairley, DT, Auburn
5. Arizona - Von Miller, OLB, Texas A&M
6. Houston from Cleveland - Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU
7. San Francisco - Prince Amukamara, CB, Nebraska
8. Tennessee - Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama
9. Dallas - Cameron Jordan, DE, California
10. Buffalo from Washington - AJ Green, WR, Georgia
11. Cleveland from Houston - Julio Jones, WR, Alabama
12. Minnesota - Jake Locker, QB, Washington
13. Jacksonville from Detroit - JJ Watt, DE, Wisconsin
14. St. Louis - Aldon Smith, DE, Mizzouri
15. Miami - Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin
16. Detroit from Jacksonville - Tyron Smith, OT, USC
17. Washington from Buffalo, from New England, from Oakland - Blaine Gabbert, QB, Missouri
18. San Diego - Cameron Heyward, DE, Ohio State
19. New York Giants - Anthony Costanzo, OT, Boston College
20. Tampa Bay - Adrian Clayborn, DE, Iowa
21. New York Jets from Kansas City - Mark Ingram, RB, Alabama
22. Indianapolis - Nate Solder, OT, Colorado
23. Philadelphia - Ryan Kerrigan, DE, Purdue
24. New Orleans - Corey Liuget, DT, Illinois
25. Buffalo from Seattle - Akeem Ayers, OLB, UCLA
26. Baltimore - Muhammad Wilkerson, DE, Temple
27. Atlanta - Torrey Smith, WR, Maryland
28. Seattle from Buffalo from New England - Jimmy Smith, CB, Colorado
29. Chicago - Stephen Paea, DT, Oregon State
30. Kansas City from New York Jets - Phil Taylor, NT, Baylor
31. Pittsburgh - Mike Pouncey, OG, Florida
32. Green Bay - Derek Sherrod, OT, Mississippi State
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