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alfie bhoy
03 Mar 10 16:28
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Will they negotiate the contract this summer or is not up for renegotiation yet and is there any chance of ESPN outbidding them or at least picking up the MNF?

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By:
Jockey Full Of Bourbon
When: 03 Mar 10 16:42
as per last year don't expect any definite announcements from Sky until September,NFL fans need to be told why exactly ESPN cannot show MNF here when it is freely available in mainland Europe
By:
Nilsson Schmilsson
When: 03 Mar 10 16:49
because they didn't bid for it
By:
orioles
When: 03 Mar 10 16:54
Hell's teeth, this discussion has started early!
By:
Nilsson Schmilsson
When: 03 Mar 10 17:33
i have to something, i would go shopping but....
By:
Nilsson Schmilsson
When: 03 Mar 10 17:33
i have to DO something
By:
Jockey Full Of Bourbon
When: 03 Mar 10 17:35
who didn't bid for what?Schmilsson
By:
Nilsson Schmilsson
When: 03 Mar 10 17:36
espn, mnf
By:
Foxinthesnow
When: 03 Mar 10 18:56
Rubbish, I don't why MNF wasn't on this year but I'd be stunned if was because nobody wanted to show it, it has to be something to with a dispute with espn and sky.
By:
Nilsson Schmilsson
When: 03 Mar 10 19:04
espn and sky have no disputes
By:
Jockey Full Of Bourbon
When: 03 Mar 10 19:05
ESPN broadcast MNF in the States and show it all over Europe so you suggest that they would have to pay more to show it here?
By:
Foxinthesnow
When: 03 Mar 10 19:08
So what your saying is that a new channel (ESPN), who show and produce MNF to the rest of the world and are desperate for content wouldn't want to show MNF, not buying that for a minute.
By:
Nilsson Schmilsson
When: 03 Mar 10 19:30
desperate for content?
By:
Nilsson Schmilsson
When: 03 Mar 10 19:30
Jockey Full Of Bourbon 03 Mar 20:05
ESPN broadcast MNF in the States and show it all over Europe so you suggest that they would have to pay more to show it here?

yes, broadcasting is not as simple as you'd think
By:
Foxinthesnow
When: 03 Mar 10 19:32
Obviously they need content, can't survive on 1 premiership game per week.
By:
Nilsson Schmilsson
When: 03 Mar 10 19:40
dont think an american footy game at 1:30 on a tuesday morning is the answer though
By:
Yuvraj Singh
When: 03 Mar 10 20:25
A new home will need to be found for SNF too as I don't think C5 are going to show it anymore.
By:
Jockey Full Of Bourbon
When: 03 Mar 10 20:47
thanks Schmilsson fully aware of the complexities of sports broadcasting but i struggle to believe that the only reason ESPN did not show MNF here last year was because they a)didn't want to or b)couldn't agree a fee with NFL
By:
Jockey Full Of Bourbon
When: 03 Mar 10 20:50
an American Football game at 1.30 a.m on Monday would be more popular than an NCAA hoops game or an NHL game
By:
Onionss
When: 03 Mar 10 21:53
^ true, but 20 times more expensive too.
By:
Murphinator1
When: 03 Mar 10 22:51
Foxinthesnow 03 Mar 20:08


So what your saying is that a new channel (ESPN), who show and produce MNF to the rest of the world and are desperate for content wouldn't want to show MNF, not buying that for a minute.


Exactly, there was some dispute/technicality/contractual jargon why ESPN could not show it this year. Sky didn't show it because there wasn't the interest at that time on a Mondya night and Channel 5 couldn't affor the studio costs I think. ESPN show NBA, NHL, NCAA football/ basketball live almost every night. Sometimes they have a combination of these ot back to back matches across their two mainstream channels. There is no way many people are watching those.

ESPN produce and own MNF (as far as I am aware) and if they can sort out the back office stuff out they will definitly have it on next year.
By:
Nilsson Schmilsson
When: 04 Mar 10 09:05
espn produce and broadcast it in america

the NFL owns it
By:
cunnybobbler
When: 04 Mar 10 11:35
how skint c5 are i doubt they paid anything to show snf last year. with nobody bothering with mnf last year i cant see the price being very high this year, the nfl arent exactly in a great position to negotiate.
By:
Jockey Full Of Bourbon
When: 04 Mar 10 14:45
which brings us back to why ESPN could not show the games last year and will they show them this year?
By:
Nilsson Schmilsson
When: 04 Mar 10 14:50
the first one has been answered, the second we dont know
By:
Jockey Full Of Bourbon
When: 04 Mar 10 16:30
oh no it has not?
By:
inner city sumo
When: 05 Mar 10 18:24
ESPN show NBA, NHL, NCAA football/ basketball live almost every night. Sometimes they have a combination of these ot back to back matches across their two mainstream channels. There is no way many people are watching those.


Avg figures for Sunday 6pm NFL game: 0.04m
Avg figures for Sunday 9.15pm NFL game: 0.03m
Avg figures for Monday 01.30am NFL game: 0.01m
Avg figures for Tuesday 01.30am NFL game: 0.01m

These are figures for the regular season, obviously play off audiences are bigger. Even so, let's not kid ourselves, the interest in watching late night games is very limited. :(
By:
Nilsson Schmilsson
When: 05 Mar 10 18:42
not quite sure what those figures are

c5 got between 80000 and 105000 for snf
By:
inner city sumo
When: 05 Mar 10 23:25
Last year when the dispute was on I asked a friend who works in advertising to look up the ratings, because he had access to the data for selling ad space.

I don't know where you get 100k from, because at that time of night there aren't many more than 100k sets on, let alone all watching NFL on C5. To put sports viewing figures into context, according to Sky a Guinness Premiership Rugby Union game shown primetime, up against no other major sports will get 0.2m viewers, five times as many viewers as one of our regular Sunday evening NFL games, and given how popular NFL is in this country relative to Rugby Union that sounds about right.
By:
Nilsson Schmilsson
When: 05 Mar 10 23:32
my data is from the tv sports market magazine

for £1200 a year i trust there figures as the official ones


however, how the figures are worked out is b0ll0x

eg wwe raw rating have doubled for this year as they have taken a completely new sample for their figs
By:
Nilsson Schmilsson
When: 05 Mar 10 23:33
nfl on sky on sunday will get 50-80k but generally at the lower end of that 50-60k
By:
inner city sumo
When: 05 Mar 10 23:44
NFL figures are pretty depressing when you consider around 4m watch F1. :(
By:
cunnybobbler
When: 06 Mar 10 17:24
inner city sumo 06 Mar 00:44
NFL figures are pretty depressing when you consider around 4m watch F1. :(

at least 3.9 milion of those are asleep after their sunday lunch and therefore dont bother changing the channel.
By:
History Maker
When: 15 Mar 10 03:45
Yup. Delighted the BBC has it again. No more noisy adverts to sully my nap. 'Twas a tragedy back when Channel 4 got the test cricket too.
By:
FORZA AS ROMA
When: 16 Mar 10 12:24
Are sky gonna show the draft this year?
By:
History Maker
When: 16 Mar 10 15:12
Hope so. I've never seen it. Very interested to see where to see where quite a few players go.

Notably (in rough order of how interested I am, not how high I think they'll go or how good I think they are):

Ndamukong Suh
Dexter McCluster
Tim Tebow
CJ Spiller
Toby Gerhardt
Russell Okung
Sam Bradford
Jason Pierre-Paul
Jimmy Clausen
Jahvid Best
By:
5 European Cups
When: 10 Apr 10 08:09
Update.

No draft on SKY but will be live on nfl.com

ESPN UK have MNF next season including the 90 minute Monday Night Countdown with Chris Berman.
By:
Ace High
When: 10 Apr 10 11:07
ESPN buildup show is pretty good whenever ive seen it. Worth watching for Ditka alone! As old school as it gets.
By:
NEW KID IN TOWN
When: 10 Apr 10 14:05
I think the draft is live on ESPN or ESPN America.
By:
5 European Cups
When: 10 Apr 10 15:38
Its live on ESPN in America buy not over here. We have to make do with nfl.com
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