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rockingchair
24 Jan 10 16:51
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Need to kill some time before kick off. How about a debate around top 5 QB's? Here's my go......

1. Joe Montana
2. Dan Marino
3. Peyton Manning
4. Steve Young
5. Johnny Unitas

Any thoughts?
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Report fowlerisgod January 24, 2010 5:53 PM GMT
elway
Report ManWithNoName January 24, 2010 5:54 PM GMT
Yep, Elway merits consideration
Report d13phe January 24, 2010 5:55 PM GMT
Kurt Warner would be in my top 5
Report ManWithNoName January 24, 2010 5:56 PM GMT
Surely the top 4 can't all come from the recent past. When did the NFL begin?
Report Valueee Seeeker January 24, 2010 5:57 PM GMT
Agree Joe is No.1
Report goldstar lee January 24, 2010 5:58 PM GMT
favre
Report rockingchair January 24, 2010 6:00 PM GMT
The National Football League was founded in 1920 under the name American Professional Football Association. The name was changed to National Football League in 1922.

Always difficult on this to go back too far as I certainly wasnt watching pre the 1980's!
Report The Priest January 24, 2010 6:00 PM GMT
Peyton 'Golden media boy' Manning

He's useless.
Report deeppockets January 24, 2010 6:00 PM GMT
Roger Staubach and Bart Starr deserve a mention as well ... played in the days before the West coast offence but both called all the plays and did not have an offensive coordinator picking the plays.
Report The Priest January 24, 2010 6:00 PM GMT
Surely Tom 'Three Rings' Brady is much better.
Report leefee January 24, 2010 6:01 PM GMT
also Fran Tarkenton needs consideration.... agree about Joe being tops though
Report Rich1965 January 24, 2010 6:05 PM GMT
bart starr !!
Report deeppockets January 24, 2010 6:05 PM GMT
Fran Tarkenton was brilliant ...
Report Bullwinkle January 24, 2010 6:12 PM GMT
1.Montana
2.Unitas
3.Manning
4.Marino
5.Simms
Report cunnybobbler January 24, 2010 6:12 PM GMT
having never actually seen unitas play i can only go with guys i have.

1 manning
2 montana
3 elway
4 and 5 perm any 2 from brady, brees, marino, young, warner. i know brees will look a bizarre choice but hey whaddya gonnado lol :)

but obviously this has a very strong bias to recent times and isnt going to be accurate. but like i said how do i include guys ive never seen play???
Report Lifetaker January 24, 2010 6:13 PM GMT
1. John ELWAY
2. Drew BREES
3. Dan Marino
4.Joe Montana
5. Peyton Manning
Report deeppockets January 24, 2010 6:17 PM GMT
Simms? Bullwinkle ... are you from NY ...
Report leefee January 24, 2010 6:21 PM GMT
I was a huge Simms fan..... but there is no way on this blue and green planet he is one of the best 5 of all time :^0
Report Bullwinkle January 24, 2010 6:21 PM GMT
No...Im not from NY but I always admired Simms as a QB and playing in NY all that time. Sports Illustrated called him the most underrated QB of all time and I would go with that. I never saw Unitas other than on tapes and documentaries but you have got to admire him - a real tough man
Report skyblues January 24, 2010 6:54 PM GMT
Brodie croyle dont need anymore.
Report robbing_ROBIN January 24, 2010 7:05 PM GMT
for me. and only been watching mid/late 80's

montana
elway
brady
manning
marino..

manning to go to 2 with another sb victory
Report J0KER January 24, 2010 7:05 PM GMT
K Warner is 1.01 in top five.. if this guy had started earlier he would hold every record in the book and took 2 of the suckiest francises in recent history to the superbowl.

a total legend
Report the nugget January 24, 2010 7:25 PM GMT
1.Manning
2.Elway
3.Montana
4.Marino
5.Young

for me
Report robbing_ROBIN January 24, 2010 9:17 PM GMT
for got about young. he may push marino out of my top 5
Report robbing_ROBIN January 24, 2010 9:25 PM GMT
it's the lack of pass rush thats helping sanchez too
Report jimmythewon January 24, 2010 10:49 PM GMT
Impossible to rate Tarkenton, unitas etc. Since channel 5/ Sky coverage started

1. Montana- most complete but helped by having Jerry Rice
2. Elway- the best when the *****were down
3. Brady- you won't like it but he is the iceman: helped by a great all round team
4. Favre- did it in a weaker team and look at the durability
5. Young- learned it from Montana but still great all rounder

Sorry: Manning and Marino are too one dimensional and rely on really good receivers and/or offensive lines
Report Ace High January 24, 2010 10:52 PM GMT
The usual suspects voting for Manning, and in the process showing their lack of NFL acumen.
Report Roger De Bris January 24, 2010 10:56 PM GMT
1. Joe Montana
Report deeppockets January 24, 2010 11:02 PM GMT
I'm surprised no one has mentioned Terry Bradshaw on this thread probably not one of the great pure passers but four rings says all you want to know about his ability to manage a game. I think to be a top 5 quarterback you must call your own games.
Report robbing_ROBIN January 24, 2010 11:14 PM GMT
farves throws a bit off. he looks fcuked
Report eguillemyn January 24, 2010 11:16 PM GMT
troy aikman?
Report leefee January 24, 2010 11:20 PM GMT
Troy Aikman? Might as well include Jeff Hostetler, Ryan Leif and Kyle Orton
Report viva el presidente! January 24, 2010 11:21 PM GMT
amazed favre is in so few of these lists. the durability, the consecutive games streak, the fact he's still doing it at forty. like him or not, surely an all-time great.
Report Ace High January 24, 2010 11:39 PM GMT
An all time great, but 2 superbowl appearances (1 win) on the teams hes been on....not good enough..without even mentioning the INT's.
Report Max Cady January 24, 2010 11:40 PM GMT
no mention of tom brady?
Report Ace High January 24, 2010 11:47 PM GMT
Sharp post Max.

The disrespect shown to Brady this season has been embarassing to all true NFL fans. A 4000+ yard season after a potential career ending injury and the guy gets no respect.

Football outsiders had him as the number 1 rated QB with strength of schedule factored in.

If the pats had the colts D this year theyd be odds on for the title at this stage. Fact.
Report legend111 January 24, 2010 11:51 PM GMT
noone even mentioned Joe Theismann
Report Ace High January 24, 2010 11:52 PM GMT
Lol, if Joe had a account hed be worse than me.
Report Glossy January 24, 2010 11:55 PM GMT
1. Montana
2. Marino
3. Elway
4. Favre
5. Young

Am too young to have seen Unitas, Namath or Tarkenton.
Report Ace High January 24, 2010 11:55 PM GMT
Namath, lol.
Report Glossy January 24, 2010 11:57 PM GMT
What's funny about Namath?
Report Glossy January 25, 2010 12:01 AM GMT
Turne a bunch of no-hopers into Superbowl winners. Guaranteed to beat one of the best teams in history and was MVP in the game.
Report Glossy January 25, 2010 12:01 AM GMT
*Turned
Report Ace High January 25, 2010 12:02 AM GMT
Besides the fact he threw more Interceptions than Touchdowns in his career?
Report Glossy January 25, 2010 12:05 AM GMT
In some horrible teams.
Report Glossy January 25, 2010 12:06 AM GMT
Like I say, I'm too young to have seen him play but from what I have seen and heard, he was as talented as they come.
Report Ace High January 25, 2010 12:09 AM GMT
His guarantee legendary? Yes.

The Jets a bunch of no-hopers? Pretty disrespectful to the defence that won that superbowl.

MVP? Yeh, he won it, but as Cold Hard Football Facts diagnosed it perfectley:

Joe Namath famously earned MVP honors in Super Bowl III, but the award should have gone to workhorse fullback Matt Snell he truly carried the load for the Jets that day.

New York ran the ball 43 times in Miami Snell with 30 of those attempts for 121 yards (4.03 YPA). He also caught four passes for 40 yards. In other words, Snell handled the ball on nearly half of the Jets offensive plays that day (34 of 72) and produced nearly half of the teams offensive output (161 of 337 yards). He also scored the teams only touchdown, with a 4-yard run in the second quarter.

Actually, in retrospect, when you look at those numbers, its a travesty that he didnt win MVP honors.


Seriously. Namath was the Geoff Hurst of the NFL, but with more personality.
Report Glossy January 25, 2010 12:12 AM GMT
Another one who puts stats over what he sees with his own 2 eyes.
Report Ace High January 25, 2010 12:15 AM GMT
I give up. Somebody who didnt watch the game disregarding the official stats with a comment suggesting he witnessed something different! You couldnt script it.
Report Rich1965 January 25, 2010 12:23 AM GMT
dan fouts you super bowl blinded numpties!!
Report deeppockets January 25, 2010 1:55 AM GMT
That last play shows you why Farve doesn't belong on this list ... too many crucial interceptions ...
Report vrk January 25, 2010 1:58 AM GMT
Jay Cutler a shocking omission
Report F@H January 26, 2010 6:14 PM GMT
Joe Montana
Terry Bradshaw
Roger Staubach
Fran Tarkenton
Dan Fouts
Report F@H January 26, 2010 6:21 PM GMT
Gutted that I couldn't find space for John Elway in that list
Report fawwon January 26, 2010 6:56 PM GMT
No mention of Bernie Kosar anywhere.
Report db1974 January 27, 2010 12:56 PM GMT
1. Nelson Muntz
2. Jamie Foxx
3. Burt Reynolds
4. The blonde kid from "Remember The Titans"
5. Adam Sandler
Report happy ranger January 27, 2010 6:42 PM GMT
what about machine gun jim kelly
Report stigger January 27, 2010 7:06 PM GMT
gotta say dan marino.not sure how he can be called one dimensional

i seem to remember him carrying some average at best miami teams with not much of a rushin attack

if he played in the same system as montana/young with the 49ers defences his numbers would be out of reach

some1 said he needed quality recievers but i think he made his recievers look quality

of the current crop i like manning but he benefits from offence friendly rules
Report FORZA AS ROMA January 27, 2010 7:34 PM GMT
Ace High 25 Jan 00:47


Sharp post Max.

The disrespect shown to Brady this season has been embarassing to all true NFL fans. A 4000+ yard season after a potential career ending injury and the guy gets no respect.

Football outsiders had him as the number 1 rated QB with strength of schedule factored in.

If the pats had the colts D this year theyd be odds on for the title at this stage. Fact.



Your a mug and shouldnt be in this forum anymore. Your opinion is worthless because you just wrong on everything
Report Ace High January 28, 2010 1:15 AM GMT
You are a very bitter individual Forza.

Please stop cyber stalking me.
Report FORZA AS ROMA January 28, 2010 2:42 PM GMT
Well when some1 says they will leave the forum for good, im just trying to get you to go
Report mr milk January 28, 2010 3:15 PM GMT
stigger 27 Jan 20:06
gotta say dan marino.not sure how he can be called one dimensional


he was pretty one dimensional in ace ventura
Report Lifetaker January 28, 2010 11:38 PM GMT
db1974
:^0

Tom brady`s Days are over, He is now just a pamperd pussy
Report egglebert1 January 29, 2010 4:35 PM GMT
Modern Era?

For pure physical skill and arm strength it is Elway, no question. There are plays he made that take the breath away.

Overall though it is Manning.

1 manning

2 elway

3 choose from any of marino, montana, young, brady, favre, moon...etc...
Report Jontyblade January 29, 2010 10:55 PM GMT
where is rex grossman on this list?
Report Lifetaker January 30, 2010 12:10 AM GMT
egglebert1 30 Jan 04:05
Modern Era?
For pure physical skill and arm strength it is Elway, no question. There are plays he made that take the breath away.

ELWAY = " The CLOCK MASTER "
Report stigger January 30, 2010 10:06 PM GMT
for physical ablity and arm strength alone i think randall cunningham and mike vick at least rival elway.not sayin they were as good a qb btw

however we r takin about the best qb

i think this includes many skills but ive got 2 say marino

a lightning release and the best ive seen at hitting a reciever in stride.duper and clayton owe the guy half there wages
Report Dark Destroyer January 31, 2010 9:20 AM GMT
Interesting analysis on ESPN radio last night.

1. Montana
2. Elway
3. Manning
4. Brady
5. Favre

But a strong case for moving Manning level with or even above Elway if he wins 1 or 2 more Superbowls.
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