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A difficult pick this one, with two teams that have deficiencies that make them as likely to lose as to win.
Chicago have as much chance of defending successfully as Zeeny does of maintaining his dignity in a donkey sanctuary and San Francisco have a guy under centre who would rather have a full week to decide and throw the ball.
Briggs has to contain Gore, but Chicago have struggled to stop the run all year, so I expect Gore to have a monster. Similarly, I take Vernon Davis to tear into the Bears secondary if Smith can get the ball off. Chicago have scant talent against the pass and the talent they have is injured; it aint good.
Alex Smith has shown signs of life, but my scouts tell me that the numbers hide the real story; the guy is struggling. He wants too much time and consequently his decision-making can be erratic and his throws wayward. Thankfully, the Bears rush the passer like my grandmother, who died in 1974. Out of the shotgun he looks a little better and if Gore does the damage he should, that will relieve the skittish QB of some of these problems.
The Bears will have to balance out their offense imo. Cutler throws the ball to the opposition too much on the road and, although Clements is out and Lewis is banged up, unless Forte can get past Willis and a pretty stingy SF D on the ground (theyre generally solid enough at home too), Cutler will inevitably cough it up under pressure and the O will falter.
I take the 9ers to cover and I like the Overs. Davis should score, as should Gore, but with Chicago needing to win so much, look for Cutler to air it out all day and Forte to have some success catching out of the backfield. Hester should be a threat for a big play or two and Olsen has looked good recently.
Pick: SF -3.5
Pick: Over 43.5
First TD: Vernon Davis @ 10.5
Anytime TD: Greg Olsen @ 2.75
Chicago have as much chance of defending successfully as Zeeny does of maintaining his dignity in a donkey sanctuary and San Francisco have a guy under centre who would rather have a full week to decide and throw the ball.
Briggs has to contain Gore, but Chicago have struggled to stop the run all year, so I expect Gore to have a monster. Similarly, I take Vernon Davis to tear into the Bears secondary if Smith can get the ball off. Chicago have scant talent against the pass and the talent they have is injured; it aint good.
Alex Smith has shown signs of life, but my scouts tell me that the numbers hide the real story; the guy is struggling. He wants too much time and consequently his decision-making can be erratic and his throws wayward. Thankfully, the Bears rush the passer like my grandmother, who died in 1974. Out of the shotgun he looks a little better and if Gore does the damage he should, that will relieve the skittish QB of some of these problems.
The Bears will have to balance out their offense imo. Cutler throws the ball to the opposition too much on the road and, although Clements is out and Lewis is banged up, unless Forte can get past Willis and a pretty stingy SF D on the ground (theyre generally solid enough at home too), Cutler will inevitably cough it up under pressure and the O will falter.
I take the 9ers to cover and I like the Overs. Davis should score, as should Gore, but with Chicago needing to win so much, look for Cutler to air it out all day and Forte to have some success catching out of the backfield. Hester should be a threat for a big play or two and Olsen has looked good recently.
Pick: SF -3.5
Pick: Over 43.5
First TD: Vernon Davis @ 10.5
Anytime TD: Greg Olsen @ 2.75
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orioles
vern davis over 55.5 yds 1.93 on here, bound to lose now but seems very good value he is 60yds and above at most places.
vern davis over 55.5 yds 1.93 on here, bound to lose now but seems very good value he is 60yds and above at most places.
A very nice spot, SB. It would've been nice if he'd kept his mouth shut before gametime, but with his size and the Bears defensive backs, he should put up big numbers. Smith clearly likes throwing to him.
Big, big game for Da Bears, who`s gameplan is quite simple really, STOP GORE. Sure they miss Urlacher badly and Cuttler is rather inconsistent, but they`ll never get a better opportunity to get back on the winning track. Bears for me (+3.5).
Actually, I`ve layed 49ers (-3.5) @ 2.12 and 2.08
Was that your money Sir mighty Orioles? ;)
Actually, I`ve layed 49ers (-3.5) @ 2.12 and 2.08
Was that your money Sir mighty Orioles? ;)
yeah mate, they either kill davis after what he said or he does what he says and has a big game.
Tbh ive done the 49ers -3.5 for small stakes as this game is very close to call, main reason ive took 49ers is because off the travelling on a short distance for the bears to a diff time zone.
Tbh ive done the 49ers -3.5 for small stakes as this game is very close to call, main reason ive took 49ers is because off the travelling on a short distance for the bears to a diff time zone.
True skyblues, but Glad Davis said it though :D
Da Bears need some motivation!!!
Da Bears need some motivation!!!
Uncle O I called the same bets after spending time on the game.......... I'm new to American Football but enjoying it more and more..............I'm playing one of the bets OVERS or SF -3.5 but unsure which one to go for..............what you think?
total apple turnovers, between 4 and 5 at 9/5 looks interesting. be amazed if there arent at least 3 and 6+ is a bit much imo. 4 or 5 looks about spot on so 9/5 looks a decent price.
Quit, I always try to imagine myself sitting in front of the game. Who would be worrying me most?
Well, in this case it would be the Chicago D, which is very vulnerable.
The Overs bet looks obvious, just because SF should tear apart Chi and Chi will have to throw all day as they fail to establish the run, or play catch up and SF can give up big plays (9th 20+ yds plays). That said, these vital matchups make me slightly nervous as they can often go differently when you're expecting a shootout.
If I HAD to bet, I'd give the points with a saver on Overs.
Well, in this case it would be the Chicago D, which is very vulnerable.
The Overs bet looks obvious, just because SF should tear apart Chi and Chi will have to throw all day as they fail to establish the run, or play catch up and SF can give up big plays (9th 20+ yds plays). That said, these vital matchups make me slightly nervous as they can often go differently when you're expecting a shootout.
If I HAD to bet, I'd give the points with a saver on Overs.
thanks for the advice it looks too obvious don't it........when it looks obvious the bookies win that's what I'm worried about
Miami @ Carolina
Browns down and the wildcat has had its claws pulled. Well, thats why the line has flip flopped anyway. This is a squeaker: the short rest is supposed to favour the home team and while Ricky Williams is running well, the wildcat buys a little extra time for blockers to give him room, so he may find less room to operate. That said, without Thomas Davis, the Panthers got gashed on the ground last week and their lack of depth at DT means they are vulnerable and they rank 25th against the run.
Carolina are also building their offense on a running game, so we could see a little smashmouth here to start things off. The edge though, goes to Carolina because they have a few more options on O and that variety can be used to expose Miamis weakness against the pass if their backs struggle, as they might with Gross out a big miss. The Panthers arent overwhelming deep, but I like Smith and take him to score tonight against Miamis rookie corners.
Both QBs protect the ball nicely, but the Panthers have stepped up against the pass and intercepted eight passes in the last three, so Henne might struggle to go vertical if Ricky and the wildcat begins to falter.
This should be the difference and see Carolina home. Just.
Pick: Carolina -3 @ 1.8*
Pick: 1st TD Ricky Williams @ 5*
Pick: Anytime TD Steve Smith @ 2.1***
Pick: Over 42 @ 1.91**
Browns down and the wildcat has had its claws pulled. Well, thats why the line has flip flopped anyway. This is a squeaker: the short rest is supposed to favour the home team and while Ricky Williams is running well, the wildcat buys a little extra time for blockers to give him room, so he may find less room to operate. That said, without Thomas Davis, the Panthers got gashed on the ground last week and their lack of depth at DT means they are vulnerable and they rank 25th against the run.
Carolina are also building their offense on a running game, so we could see a little smashmouth here to start things off. The edge though, goes to Carolina because they have a few more options on O and that variety can be used to expose Miamis weakness against the pass if their backs struggle, as they might with Gross out a big miss. The Panthers arent overwhelming deep, but I like Smith and take him to score tonight against Miamis rookie corners.
Both QBs protect the ball nicely, but the Panthers have stepped up against the pass and intercepted eight passes in the last three, so Henne might struggle to go vertical if Ricky and the wildcat begins to falter.
This should be the difference and see Carolina home. Just.
Pick: Carolina -3 @ 1.8*
Pick: 1st TD Ricky Williams @ 5*
Pick: Anytime TD Steve Smith @ 2.1***
Pick: Over 42 @ 1.91**
orioles 19 Nov 19:51
Both QBs protect the ball nicely
:0 easy to forget delhomme's early season picks! true, he hasn't thrown a pick for the last 3 games, which may mean he's due for some tonight :^0 though miami aren't that good at int's.
Both QBs protect the ball nicely
:0 easy to forget delhomme's early season picks! true, he hasn't thrown a pick for the last 3 games, which may mean he's due for some tonight :^0 though miami aren't that good at int's.
damn gvl beat me to it.
Delhomme is a pick monster, thou orioles does love his dodgy qb's.
and with the panthers running game he shouldnt need to throw much even with miami having a decent rush defence.
Gl orioles mate.
Delhomme is a pick monster, thou orioles does love his dodgy qb's.
and with the panthers running game he shouldnt need to throw much even with miami having a decent rush defence.
Gl orioles mate.
Look at the player as he is now, grasshopper, not as he once was and respect the wisdom of Uncle O ;)
forgot all about this game. does miami v jake the take equal unders mcdunders????
both will be running the ball alot id imagine, and the phins im assuming will try to take as much time off the clock, changing the plays and such to keep the panthers guessing without brown, doing the wildcat.
Unders a pretty good shout, but i am not going to post anything about taking bets on this thread after the kiss off death last week.
Yeah orioles he is doing better and he isnt as bad as what happened at the start off the season, bit off confidence back and the running game has helped him out a fair bit as he doesnt need to throw as much.
Unders a pretty good shout, but i am not going to post anything about taking bets on this thread after the kiss off death last week.
Yeah orioles he is doing better and he isnt as bad as what happened at the start off the season, bit off confidence back and the running game has helped him out a fair bit as he doesnt need to throw as much.
:) HAPPY THANKSGIVING :)
Green Bay @ Detroit
As usual at this point in the season, injuries are beginning to bite. Stafford, who has shown signs of life, is out today, putting Culpepper under centre (6/14 for 48 yards with one interception when he played GB earlier this year!) Johnson is also out and Smith has a bad hip. Detroit got home last week, just, but these injuries should make it difficult for them to hold on to Green Bay who seem to be getting on track, particularly with Finley back. He seems to settle Rodgers down and the offense looks happier in general, with Ryan Grant even giving them a ground game.
The Packs D has taken a couple of hits, with Kampmann and Harris done for the season, but Im taking the Lions problems at QB to balance that out and the Pack to win going away. Its a lot of points to give, but it could be a blowout. Detroit have struggled mightily in this traditional Thanksgiving fixture recently and Green Bay is 6-1 ATS last 7 against Detroit.
Pick: GB -11
Pick: 1st TD Ryan Grant @ 6
Pick: Anytime TD Jeremichael Finley @ 2.88
Green Bay @ Detroit
As usual at this point in the season, injuries are beginning to bite. Stafford, who has shown signs of life, is out today, putting Culpepper under centre (6/14 for 48 yards with one interception when he played GB earlier this year!) Johnson is also out and Smith has a bad hip. Detroit got home last week, just, but these injuries should make it difficult for them to hold on to Green Bay who seem to be getting on track, particularly with Finley back. He seems to settle Rodgers down and the offense looks happier in general, with Ryan Grant even giving them a ground game.
The Packs D has taken a couple of hits, with Kampmann and Harris done for the season, but Im taking the Lions problems at QB to balance that out and the Pack to win going away. Its a lot of points to give, but it could be a blowout. Detroit have struggled mightily in this traditional Thanksgiving fixture recently and Green Bay is 6-1 ATS last 7 against Detroit.
Pick: GB -11
Pick: 1st TD Ryan Grant @ 6
Pick: Anytime TD Jeremichael Finley @ 2.88
stafford is in, so is calvin johnson Detriot +10.5 for me
green day are crap these days. dont be an american idiot, back detroit on the handicap.
WOW ... I was in a hurry and used my fantasy football sources for injuries (even CBS were reporting them both out) this looked a standout bet without Stafford and Johnson.
Ah well :(
Ah well :(
Fumble recovery ... missed FG ... sometimes, it just isn't my day :p
Oakland @ Dallas
These two teams are enough to bring my turkey up ... and not in a good way. I'm going to take the Raiders' D to be the deciding factor against the lumbering Dallas O line and Romo who can be useless or adequate, depending on his mood.
As America's team is trying to pretend Tony the titend doesn't exist, I'll look for a running back to give me some love on the TD market.
Pick: Oakland +13.5
Pick: 1st TD Barber @ 5.5
Pick: Under 40.5
These two teams are enough to bring my turkey up ... and not in a good way. I'm going to take the Raiders' D to be the deciding factor against the lumbering Dallas O line and Romo who can be useless or adequate, depending on his mood.
As America's team is trying to pretend Tony the titend doesn't exist, I'll look for a running back to give me some love on the TD market.
Pick: Oakland +13.5
Pick: 1st TD Barber @ 5.5
Pick: Under 40.5
Saluting Darren Lockyer 26 Nov 17:04
you may want to rewrite this
Uncle O KNOWS :p
you may want to rewrite this
Uncle O KNOWS :p
well done although i think you misread the fact that the lions problem at quarterback isn't culpepper
I'm not taking any credit out of the pick, DL :)
Detroit are just horrible and I'm not sure starting Stafford was such a good idea from a long-term perspective, maybe they were trying to be too cute. I agree, the problem is not the QB.
Detroit are just horrible and I'm not sure starting Stafford was such a good idea from a long-term perspective, maybe they were trying to be too cute. I agree, the problem is not the QB.
a truly awful team,the worst i've seen by some distance and i actually felt sorry for their defensive front 7 who tried their best to keep the ball away from the secondary.
For me there are no bright spots in that team and last weeks game just served to over inflate the self importance of stafford,he should have bailed himself out of that match after the first quarter.
For me there are no bright spots in that team and last weeks game just served to over inflate the self importance of stafford,he should have bailed himself out of that match after the first quarter.
Bah! I liked that bet. Two horrible teams.
Anyway, might as well plough on ...
New York Giants @ Denver
What the hell has happened to Denver? Well, there's been a breakdown both sides of the ball. On D they're beginning to look completely ineffective against the run and they seem unable to pressure the passer at all. They have the personnel, but age may be catching up with some of them. Dawkins may be out, but Dumervil can bring it and the secondary isn't horrible, they just seem to have lost their way.
On the other side of the rock, Orton is banged up and beginnning to lokk a bit frayed (15/29 for 171 yards and 1 INT against the Chargers last Sunday) and looks one hit away from exiting stage left. The old adage about being wary of backing a QB when there's nothing coming off the bench was never more evident than at mile high. Despite NYG's anaemic pass rush and their own troubles on D, I think I'll give the points in this one and look for some love from the giants on the ground.
Pick: NYG -6
1st TD: Jacobs @ 6.5
anytime TD: Steve Smith @ 2.1
Over 42.5
Anyway, might as well plough on ...
New York Giants @ Denver
What the hell has happened to Denver? Well, there's been a breakdown both sides of the ball. On D they're beginning to look completely ineffective against the run and they seem unable to pressure the passer at all. They have the personnel, but age may be catching up with some of them. Dawkins may be out, but Dumervil can bring it and the secondary isn't horrible, they just seem to have lost their way.
On the other side of the rock, Orton is banged up and beginnning to lokk a bit frayed (15/29 for 171 yards and 1 INT against the Chargers last Sunday) and looks one hit away from exiting stage left. The old adage about being wary of backing a QB when there's nothing coming off the bench was never more evident than at mile high. Despite NYG's anaemic pass rush and their own troubles on D, I think I'll give the points in this one and look for some love from the giants on the ground.
Pick: NYG -6
1st TD: Jacobs @ 6.5
anytime TD: Steve Smith @ 2.1
Over 42.5
Rudy Giuliani, Carlo Gambini, Robert De Niro & Joey Tribiani your boys are taking one helluva beating !
add your own Newyorkers ......... tbh I was struggling to get those.
add your own Newyorkers ......... tbh I was struggling to get those.
Low, CC, low ;)
Sometimes you bite the bear and sometimes, the bear rapes you in front of a packed picnic area and does a victory dance wearing your boxer shorts as a hat, before leaving :_|
Sometimes you bite the bear and sometimes, the bear rapes you in front of a packed picnic area and does a victory dance wearing your boxer shorts as a hat, before leaving :_|
I thought if I did a post like that the Giants could turn it round and make it bite me on the bum. :)
I've traded at the right odds just had too much at odds on on both teams :(
I've traded at the right odds just had too much at odds on on both teams :(
Do you listen to Danny Baker on Saturdays on 5 Live?
"Nothing can possibly go wrong!" :)
"Nothing can possibly go wrong!" :)
Back
NY Giants ....... 1.85
Denver Broncos 1.38
Lay
NY Giants ....... 1.61
Denver Broncos 1.21
NY Giants ....... 1.85
Denver Broncos 1.38
Lay
NY Giants ....... 1.61
Denver Broncos 1.21
fraid not orioles
busy trying to sort out the races
used to like radio 4 on a Sat morning
Cliff Morgan .. travel programme and Ned Sherrin on Loose Ends :(
busy trying to sort out the races
used to like radio 4 on a Sat morning
Cliff Morgan .. travel programme and Ned Sherrin on Loose Ends :(
am foot is a great sport for trading as long as I start off laying the favs and don't try to think that I know who is going to win.
Never takes me more than 5 minutes on the AW :p
He says that whenever he's watching his beloved Millwall and they go ahead, he likes to stand up and proclaim "Nothing can possibly go wrong!"
His more superstitious colleagues are mortified ... I was kind of hoping you were going to have same effect :)
He says that whenever he's watching his beloved Millwall and they go ahead, he likes to stand up and proclaim "Nothing can possibly go wrong!"
His more superstitious colleagues are mortified ... I was kind of hoping you were going to have same effect :)
That's where I'm going wrong! I ALWAYS think I know who's going to win.
that's when I go wrong .......... If I realise I'm stupid I do ok ;)
note to self: never back detroit ever again. made most of it back on the other 2 games but not really the point. i thought stafford was meant to be good?? not watched detroit much but he didnt look good. unless throwing about 5 passes straight to players wearing the wrong colour jerseys counts as good these days. i know he was a bit banged up but not sure thats a good excuse for throws like that.
Should imagine he felt like a right turkey in front of national televsion..................left many people wondering what all the fuss is about with him.
NY Jets @ Buffalo
Both teams pulled it together a little last week. There weren't that many surprises in New York: the Jets ran the hell out of it, despite not finding too much joy, Sanchez struggled to complete any passes and didn't throw a TD. They'll do the same this week (they clearly like this type of ultra-conservative offense) particularly against a Buffalo D that's been giving up a lot of yards on the ground. On the other side of the ball, the NYJ D showed signs of life, and TO will struggle against Revis, but that should give Evans a chance.
However, I like Fitzpatrick and he's going to look after the rock better than Delhomme did last week and, crucially, better than Sanchez will in this matchup. That was the key last time they met and with Jackson beginning to get more touches, I like the Bills to squeak home in this one. So I'll take the points.
Pick: Buf +3 @ 2.00
Pick: 1st TD Thomas Jones @ 6
Pick: Anytime TD Lee Evans @ 3.1
Pick: Over 37pts @ 1.91
Both teams pulled it together a little last week. There weren't that many surprises in New York: the Jets ran the hell out of it, despite not finding too much joy, Sanchez struggled to complete any passes and didn't throw a TD. They'll do the same this week (they clearly like this type of ultra-conservative offense) particularly against a Buffalo D that's been giving up a lot of yards on the ground. On the other side of the ball, the NYJ D showed signs of life, and TO will struggle against Revis, but that should give Evans a chance.
However, I like Fitzpatrick and he's going to look after the rock better than Delhomme did last week and, crucially, better than Sanchez will in this matchup. That was the key last time they met and with Jackson beginning to get more touches, I like the Bills to squeak home in this one. So I'll take the points.
Pick: Buf +3 @ 2.00
Pick: 1st TD Thomas Jones @ 6
Pick: Anytime TD Lee Evans @ 3.1
Pick: Over 37pts @ 1.91
No offence Orioles, but I`m terrified to read this thread every Thursday in case you tip the team that I intend to bet, lol. Thankfully, I can bet the Jets with confidence now :D
P.S. If I don`t win, I hope that you do!!!!
P.S. If I don`t win, I hope that you do!!!!
In general, Captain, my picks can be opposed with confidence :)
Will Revis even cover TO?????Should but TO isnt the number 1 WR imo
Revis was brilliant once again. Some player this guy.
agree,sure fire pro bowler this season i should imagine
I love watching guys like Revis play. I've always dreamt of being a pacy, hard-hitting corner.
Unfortunately, holding the Memorial Stadium foot long hot-dog record was probably an early indication that it was never to be :|
Unfortunately, holding the Memorial Stadium foot long hot-dog record was probably an early indication that it was never to be :|
Pittsburgh @ Cleveland
A weather pick.
If the weather was OK, I'd take the points: the Steelers have a shambolic look on D, with Tomlin seemingly ready to ring the changes and sit experienced players and give more time to guys like Burnett and Lewis. With Polamalu still out, they have been struggling, with Gradkowski gashing their secondary last week.
However, they can defend the run, giving up just 86ypg in the last 4 games and I don't see Jerome Harrison terrifying Pittsburgh's coaches. True, Quinn has seen signs of life recently, but if the weather is going to be as bad as the forecast suggests, he's going to be limited by the conditions.
On the other side of the all, it looks like Mendenhall is going to see the rock alot, particularly if Ward is out (game time decision) and Cleveland awful against run (over the last four, they rank dead last and they're no better on the season) so look for him to score.
Not a great game to bet ... not an average game to bet! But if the weather's bad, I'll give the points and go under.
Pick: Pittsburgh -10
Pick: 1st TD Mendenhall @ 5/Heath Miller @ 12
Pick: Anytime TD Mohamed Massaquoi @ 2
Pick: Under 33
A weather pick.
If the weather was OK, I'd take the points: the Steelers have a shambolic look on D, with Tomlin seemingly ready to ring the changes and sit experienced players and give more time to guys like Burnett and Lewis. With Polamalu still out, they have been struggling, with Gradkowski gashing their secondary last week.
However, they can defend the run, giving up just 86ypg in the last 4 games and I don't see Jerome Harrison terrifying Pittsburgh's coaches. True, Quinn has seen signs of life recently, but if the weather is going to be as bad as the forecast suggests, he's going to be limited by the conditions.
On the other side of the all, it looks like Mendenhall is going to see the rock alot, particularly if Ward is out (game time decision) and Cleveland awful against run (over the last four, they rank dead last and they're no better on the season) so look for him to score.
Not a great game to bet ... not an average game to bet! But if the weather's bad, I'll give the points and go under.
Pick: Pittsburgh -10
Pick: 1st TD Mendenhall @ 5/Heath Miller @ 12
Pick: Anytime TD Mohamed Massaquoi @ 2
Pick: Under 33
No opinion on the game so, desperate for a bet, I`ve taken your tip Mr Orioles of Steelers (-10). Good luck.
Indianapolis @ Jacksonville
Ahhhh ... picks at the back end of the season involving 13-0 teams, what could be better? I think the only way to take a crack at this is to look at the game as if everyone was going to play, so here goes.
Indy are listing 29 players as injured ... DAMN ... I didnt get a sentence into ignoring the
Ahhhh ... picks at the back end of the season involving 13-0 teams, what could be better? I think the only way to take a crack at this is to look at the game as if everyone was going to play, so here goes.
Indy are listing 29 players as injured ... DAMN ... I didnt get a sentence into ignoring the
Dallas @ New Orleans
The Saints are pushing for home field advantage in the play-offs and Dallas are hanging on to Wild Card dreams ...
The Saints are pushing for home field advantage in the play-offs and Dallas are hanging on to Wild Card dreams ...
Orioles the big matchup in fantasy. Think your gonna win tbh.
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