Oakland +9.5 - very solid today

gl,me too

on the other side of the fence here

wtf am i missing here? some ppl on another fred like oak too :0 but they are quite appalling and cinn are on a tear

You know Benson's likely not playing gvl?

yeah but he was out the 2nd half vs pitt. still can't see anything other than a thumping win for cinn (prepares egg on face smiley for later lol) though i won't have as much egg on face as the poster on the footie phorum who said wigan was value today :^0

Always need to be a touch careful giving up 9.5 on the road imo.

You can be demolishing a team 23-7 or something but as they're at home they may still score a meaningless TD to do the spreads in.

I'm not on this one, slightly like OAK but not enough to bet, just making some points really :D

fair points. i'm not a great one for ats betting tbh

actually fancy oakland could turn them over

lol you and cunnybobbler, but neither of you have actually stated why. a cheap throwaway remark ;)

lol. ive only just noticed this one, but thats the handicap. i think theyll actually win the game! i expect the men in white coats soon but i dunno...bungles always play bad after a big win...ok this season theyre looking better than usual but they still dont like games like this. benson presumably out. change of quarterback might help even though he isnt much good there could be a rallying of the troops effect. if they can keep it tight early they have a good chance imo.

been watching oakland the last few weeks and they are improving

they move the ball quite easily now but have problems with bad pens and play calling

they also have good special teams plays

i dont rate the bengals that much and i will be laying them most weeks from here on in

esp when they are favs

need to get at carlton palmer like they did donovan mcnabb

get him in the bath like paddy power or whoever it was

The market has spoken .......

Unfortunately the Raiders aint listening...

Bengals are d!cking them right now 7-0 up and approaching the red zone...

good game looks like oakland have turned up........lets cash this boys

kiss of death

good shout mate. hope they come in outright for you

humble pie duly eaten, and in large helpings :^0

any given sunday
raiders 20-17 ft

Good shout Kerrygold.

I'm pig sick here though.

easy squeezy lemon peesy