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The Kitten
22 Jul 12 09:48
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Report bb66 July 22, 2012 11:18 AM BST
Vendetta against RB that began in Valencia with an unnecessary SC continues here obviously
Report The Kitten July 22, 2012 11:20 AM BST
Rules are rules I'm afraid.
Report bb66 July 22, 2012 11:30 AM BST
F1 rules always are rubber-likeSad
Report Barksdalefamilybusiness July 22, 2012 11:30 AM BST
right to appeal would allow them to start from the qualifying positions anyway apparently
Report book July 22, 2012 11:39 AM BST
any penalty will probably take effect in the next race
Report Latalomne July 22, 2012 11:42 AM BST
So we're essentially betting on whether they appeal or not?!?  Are there any ramifications for a failed appeal?
Report book July 22, 2012 11:49 AM BST
they will appeal for sure,so grid will be the same as qualifying.
Report LV July 22, 2012 11:52 AM BST
A few weeks back, i read a report in a spanish newspaper and heard a spanish F1 journalist on the radio state during a F1 discussion radio show that engineers at ferrari and other teams in the paddock still believed that red bull were still generating some blown diffuser effect on their car through engine mapping .

Ferrari placed people at all the low and medium speed corners during free practice at various grand prixs and listened and they were convinced that they could still hear a faint "blowing" noise coming from the exhaust off throttle, a sure sign that the engine was still blowing some gases off throttle to the rear of the car.

The radio show was COPE GP on the Cope radio station.
Report Latalomne July 22, 2012 11:52 AM BST
Cheers.

And if the original decision does indeed stand, there's no way any retrospective punishment could be applied to today's result?
Report Barksdalefamilybusiness July 22, 2012 11:55 AM BST
They wont allow them on the podium apparently, if they race under appeal, so the rules get very messy here. It's settled on podium presentation, not first past the post.
Report Latalomne July 22, 2012 11:56 AM BST
Thanks for that!  This could be a fascinating market then!

Cheers!  Cool
Report book July 22, 2012 11:59 AM BST
whatever the result at the podium presentation will stand for betting purposes so it doesnt matter if there on the podium or not.
Report Latalomne July 22, 2012 11:59 AM BST
No action for Red Bull
Report Zazu July 22, 2012 12:00 PM BST
cars are legal.
Report book July 22, 2012 12:01 PM BST
vettel will come back in now & alonso will drift back out then
Report Latalomne July 22, 2012 12:02 PM BST
They already had
Report book July 22, 2012 12:04 PM BST
alonso hasnt gone back out to 2/1 + though
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