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Cmom the Town it was such a funny angle I doubt even a big screen would have got it right..
..I can still see and hear Sonny Molloy with his prices up for doubles . Angel Cardaro rode there one day and I remember going down to the rails to watch him and boy was he some sight , right up the neck of the horse. Even though CASH was riding for Vincent , Angel was something special... |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmXEAfa8-2A
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Irish Champion Stakes 1986, John Reid winning on Park Express (among other things the dam of New Approach). Cordero rode Triptych into third, the next year she came back and won the race, ridden this time by Tony Cruz
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Paul Kimmage has another meet-up with the Coolcullen maestro JB on todays sindo. Raymond Smith another great journalist of past times, any memories?. Didn't know that Cash Asmussen rode around the Phoenix Park. Was there a specialist jockey for the PP? as like today we have Ascot Frankie!. It was such a unique track. Maybe C Roche or Johnny Roe great champions or the runaway Buster Parnell!! Any thoughts lads/ they say there is a book in every one well i'm certain there's a few books in workrider. Is 'alans' already in print?
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Christy rode the park well Jay, Cash on the other hand was poor there and the critics were loud in their jeering , critics been punters , no journo would dare!. Buster rode a horse called bunkered who was one of the best named horses of all time . The Tudor type grandstand was something else , I remember one day been in the owners bar as I had a runner and meeting my boss , his words to me were, I think I'm paying you to much...
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Bunkered by Entanglement out of Golf Ball.
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Hope he was paying you plenty and looking after your pension too.
Bunkered and Buster !!!! well its brilliant, but ironic too with the manner of the exit/escape. Bertie Kerr was very good I would put him in the same basket as Con Collins, sharp shrewd operator. |
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Bertie Kerr, an outstanding footballer with Bohemians in his youth, had an astonishing record as a bloodstock agent, his brother Kevin was a leading trainer, and his nephew Bert also trained successfully, but has been better known as an agent and managing director of family firm Kerr & Co, the first truly Irish bloodstock agency and still going 100 years later.
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Well said 'alans' you are a fountain of knowledge. All very interesting.
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Bertie had many a good sprinter that ran in the Park...
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Workrider would have a better idea of this than me, but I would guess Phoenix Park was fairly straightforward from a rider's point of view, it was a level track, very fair, a manicured racing surface, well maintained under the direction of Teddy Tighe, a first-rate racecourse manager and a lovely man. Teddy and his ground staff took great pride in the appearance of the place.
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Alans , never knew Bertie played for Bohs , as a Rovers fan he was gone down in my estimation...
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When will people be let back racing?hopefully all the on course bookies will be back and give a bit of value.Would be nice to be heading to Ballinrobe tomorrow evening.
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Yes workrider, just to be clear (because it can get confusing with Bertie/Bert) this was the original Bertie, Bohs and Ireland, he played, I think, on the very first League of Ireland team, and was certainly a member of the first Ireland team who competed at the Paris Olympics in 1924. Younger brother Kevin, a Classic-winning trainer, also played for Bohs. A great Dublin sporting family.
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Cloone I got a ticket for the Curragh on Sat so looking forward to that...
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Alans that Kerr family are dropping like bricks as far as I'm concerned ...
.Rovers and Bohs tomorrow night in Dalymount.. |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkhIdEygm_I a nice vid of Saddlers Wells including his win in the IRISH Champions STAKE IN Phoenix park. The rest is history
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Watched it film did a lot of overlapping which i think took away from it Frank, anyway a super horse..
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Recognised his face from being in the ring back in the day when I saw his face here,I just never knew who he was or that he was a Journalist as I thought he worked for HRI or something similar.
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Punchestown , I walked the track there today , looks brilliant all the fences took down and stacked away for next season...
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Workrider,believe it or not I drove by the old gates into Phoenix Park racecourse about 5 hours ago (they are nearly facing Blackhorse Ave),the walls are still there in that area as well and the bit of circular grass where the horses used to run into after the finishing line that looped around the back of the course is still there
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Amazing , I must pop up and have a look myself soon..
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A marvellous thread. I have the most wonderful memories of the Park from my Dad bringing me there with his pals in the early seventies, meeting up in the Half Way beforehand, cycling/walking there myself in mid 70's. The Park was such a wonderful race track, combing 4 different stands catering to different groups although the track finish was impossible to judge, albeit Terry Rogers et al were always prepared to make a market on the photo. It had a wonderful atmosphere given it always attracted a crowd but the old parade ring/winners enclosure, the band stand over the tote building, the pre parade ring had such wonderful charm amongst the trees. Darkie Prendergast and the flying five furlongs, Cloonlara, Ballad Rock, Godetia, Sir Hugh Nugent, Bertie Kerr, Seamus McGrath, Johnnie Roe, Buster Parnell, a young Christy & David O'Brien, Vincent, Lester, Cash (you woudnt ride Kathy Barry per one racecourse character) Classic Thoroughbreds, Homer Scott later years with those bumper winners with Liam Marks. Partricks days opening day of the Flat season. Mick o'Toole, Joanna beating Lestwe by the narrowest margin. Finally Lester in all his might on Commance Run. Of all the racetracks the Park would be dearest to me and its demise was a sad indictment on those who mismanage the sport here
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Brilliant piece Observeriri ...Cloonlara and Ballad Rock another McGrath rocket , ah the memories...
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Regarding the McGrath stable, Greg Magee was assistant trainer in the eighties, tall ginger guy. Anyone know where he moved to after Seamus Mcgrath stopped training? His brother Colm worked in the shipping department of the BBA Ireland before moving to SIS when they started in the mid 80s
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Standing in the Tote Q for payout after the race and the anticipation of the Tote dividends, hand written with chalk on tiny chalkboards.....
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Paul Jarman,John Corr,Annacloy,Ray Carroll,J Oxx senior,a very young JP Murtagh in the Agha silks,Seamus McGrath,green,red seams and cap,Mike Murphy disguised doing his wind up TV show
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punchestown, a few interesting names from those days! I guess Paul Jarman was one of the last Australians here during that period (Ron Quinton and Wayne Harris a good bit later obviously. Garnie Bougoure, Pat Glennon (subsequently the great Sea Bird's jockey), Bill Williamson and Des Lake I suppose the best of them. And of course MV brought Neville Sellwood over to ride Larkspur in the Derby, 1962. Tragically Sellwood was killed in a fall in France later that year. I remember John Corr well (English-born I think) from the time he rode for Stuart Murless in the 1970s, he won a National Stakes on Pampapaul. Rode for Seamus McGrath and/or Micko I think.
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Was Greg Magee a Son of Don Magee assistant Manager of the INS....
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Just to clarify don't think Lake was the best of them, but that group of four were superior to others. My father and grandfather were great Garnie fans, and along with Lester and Scobie he was one of the first jockeys whose name I knew as a very small child.
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alans,A distinct memory for me would be Rod Quinton riding in the old Sheik Mo colours for John Oxx top weights in handicaps at the Park also those White with sideways green diamond for Hugh Nugent or the Bertram Firestone colours with a young MJK in full cry bearing down on the winning post.
Clutching your small yellow Tote ticket with the little needle holes telling you race number and your horse number. |
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very good Punchestown, when I was a very little person I used to wander around picking up discarded tote-tickets and checking the race and horse numbers for winners. I found a couple in my time. In pre-decimal days. if my memory is correct, yellow a half-crown (2s6d), green 5 shillings, pink 1 pound. After decimal they became 20p, 50p and £1, so the minimum bet was increased, 20p being the equivalent of 4 shillings. My first understanding of the concept of inflation!
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Some nice footage of last couple of Heinz 57 races on you tube if anyone interested.
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I remember Rod alright Punchestown another Aussie . Many a car stopped on the Ashbourne Rd to watch the races, the thing was the nearer you stood to the rails you couldn't tell what was in front and were dependent on the comm..
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WR no relation to Don Magee
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Okay .
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Have great memories of the Park in the early/ mid sixties . I was working/living in Dublin, and seldom missed a Park meeting . Not the best track in the country horse wise , but made up for that in atmosphere . Garda band there often , added a lot to the atmosphere .
My wife ( girl friend then) used to travel down to any Saturday meeting then with the late Sean Graham ( who was not allowed a licence in the south and had to bet under the name of a southern bookie friend , Peter Fitzimmons) . Great to recall all the great horses and Jockeys who graced the Park . An uncle of mine knew Bertie Kerr well , and that yielded an occasional well priced winner . George McGrath rode most of those Kerr winners as I recall . The non Irish jockeys were often in the limelight , some for good reasons , and a few did not distinguish themselves for whatever reason . Garnie Bougoure , Ron Hutchinson , Bill Williamson , the inevitable brilliant Lester , were better than most of the Irish jockeys at that stage , but Johnnie Roe and Liam Ward upped the game for the locals , George McGrath also pulling his weight . All change these days , overall we have the best in the world combining flat and NH. Losing the Park and Baldoyle left a big hole in the Metropolitan racing scene , although Leopardstown is among the best tracks in the world and a joy to visit . The then bookies contributed a lot to racing back then , lots of characters about . Cannot say the same for current crop who seem to spend most of their time consulting computer screens . Never understood why the Park was allowed to wither and die , it was a national institution, and maybe should have had a preservation order on it . Never saw anything but happy people at the races in the Park , sad demise in national terms . My lasting memory of the Park was watching the epic Grundy / Bustino King George there on a blistering hot July Saturday meeting , the racing world stopped for a short never to be forgotten moment that day . |
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Kelly I often had a bet with Peter , many a bookie wondered were he got the readies from,I think you provided the answer. I know his Son he sold the pitches said it wasn't worth his while. One of the first to have a lady stand up and call the odds, I think it was his daughter . Peter was a lovely man and always had a smile on his face...
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workrider , eventually Sean got a licence in his own name , probably around the start of the seventies from memory .
Unless i am mistaken I think I saw Peter Fitzimmons about 5 years ago at Leopardstown , betting . I also saw Billy Savage there betting , he used to travel with Sean back in the sixties . Sean and he were cousins . |