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curlywatt
25 Nov 16 00:29
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its a fund raiser, tickets 2 euro, pick the first 3 numbers in irish lotto in any order, its the first 3 only not 3 from the 6/7 numbers drawn, jackpot goes up by 200 every week if not won, after a certain point they announce 15 x 200 euro winners to be drawn in raffle if jackpot not won, i think the odds of correcting the first 3 numbers are incredibly high anyway, so with jackpot rising 200 every week i'm guessing about 200 tickets sold each week, anyway this week they advise that 15 x 200 winners to be drawn if jackpot not won, amazingly 2 people correctly predict 39,27,3 will be the first 3 numbers drawn in the irish lotto on wednesday, i think the odds of one person winning is high but 2 people from arond 200 players ???? i think all the guys helping this cause have been had buy the organisers, anyone work outs the odds ?
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Report curlywatt November 25, 2016 1:18 AM GMT
just to add this was week number 50 of this, was last won 50 weeks ago and jackpot reset
Report Ozymandius November 25, 2016 8:59 AM GMT
Are there 45 numbers in the Irish lotto? Can't remember

If so, I think the odds of picking the first 3 numbers in Irish lotto in any order is...

(45 x 44 x 43) / (3 x 2 x 1) = 14,190...so 1 in 14,190
Report Ozymandius November 25, 2016 9:30 AM GMT
Struggling with the next bit ...

So you have effectively bought 200 of the 14,190 possible permutations ...or 1.4%.....

Jump in at any time Pa/Wonks/Tony/Borneo...to correct me and stop me looking foolish...
Report Ozymandius November 25, 2016 9:41 AM GMT
1.4% represents approx 70/1.....so if you play every month, you would expect to hit once in 71 months or once in approx 6 years.

Now..as for the chances of two in one month.....
Report Ozymandius November 25, 2016 9:43 AM GMT
It's very quiet in here...
Report Ozymandius November 25, 2016 9:58 AM GMT
sorry...you play every week ....so once in 71 weeks on average you would expect it to be won....
Report DeargDubh November 25, 2016 6:24 PM GMT
If it is 45 numbers (i Have no idea) then Ozy is correct.

(45 x 44 x 43) / (3 x 2 x 1) = 14,190...so 1 in 14,190

The second part though I would have thought are independent events and therefore it is not possible to assign a probability.
Report DeargDubh November 25, 2016 6:34 PM GMT
I never checked your calculation Ozy, should that not be 85,140? (45x43x43) or am I missing something.

Also I'm putting the second part badly. The probability is assignable (1 in 85,140). But the events (the two winners) are independent and the fact of their occurrence is simply random.
Report DeargDubh November 25, 2016 6:35 PM GMT
(45x44x43) obviously. Sorry,
Report Ozymandius November 25, 2016 6:43 PM GMT
Eh...dunno...the order is not important so I thought I should divide by (3x2x1)
Report DeargDubh November 25, 2016 7:24 PM GMT
Yeah sorry. I see he said in any order. I think I'll go to bed early tonight. I'm confusing myself.....Confused
Report frank60 November 25, 2016 8:07 PM GMT
6 main numbers    Jackpot (minimum of €2 million)    1 in 10,737,573    irish lotto

6 main numbers    1 in 45,057,474 for the U.K. Lotto                  Not what you asked for Curlywatt, but i had to look the odds on winning the big ones,
Report curlywatt November 25, 2016 10:33 PM GMT
thanks for your stern efforts ozy and dearg, i'll go with 14,190 x 70
Report pa lapsy November 25, 2016 11:56 PM GMT
"Jump in anytime Pa and correct me if i,m looking foolish".

I'd have pretended they were horses Oz.

14/1 chance to get first horse up,22/1 to get second and 43/1 to get the treble up, not exact but a quick approimation.
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