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Probably his greatest achievement yet,
I know he has done it in big races before but to have the 1,2,3 in an arc is unbelievable .
Hats off.
I know he has done it in big races before but to have the 1,2,3 in an arc is unbelievable .
Hats off.
An epic achievement by a true genius. We're running out of superlatives.
Has any trainer ever had the 123 in the Arc before?
The greatest of all time indeed. Found has been trained beautifully all year.
Genius is a bit strong surely . He's a world class operator, of that there's little doubt. He is dependent on the horses in his care , the jockeys that ride them but most importantly he is totally dependent on the people who pump hundreds of millions into the operation.
Probably right Jimeen, they're some outfit though. The way Found travelled into the Yorkshire Oaks, improved again at leopardstown and then peaked today was world-class.
he does this a lot, there's a mnethod to what he does with all his older horses, so many trainers, you'd think wtf are they doing?
He has the raw material, though. You'd read they looked a few times at getting rid of him a few times over the last few years, but always seem to think better of it in the end. they must think he is something they can't get elsewhere as some of the stuff mixing family and business wouldn't have been tolerated anywhere.
The thing that strikes me most about him is that he seems like someone you could trust, the way he remembers the names of all the staff impresses me as well. I wouldn't find a lot of the trainers around his age and slightly older terribly likeable, many either seem untrustworthy or have a stick up their holes.
Some would have you think they were geniuses. I like Hugo Palmer because he basically admitted in an interview that he wouldn't have been bright enough or have the interest to work in the city of London where the family wanted to send him.
AOB - No genius but a hard worker who has the fundamentals nailed.
he does this a lot, there's a mnethod to what he does with all his older horses, so many trainers, you'd think wtf are they doing?
He has the raw material, though. You'd read they looked a few times at getting rid of him a few times over the last few years, but always seem to think better of it in the end. they must think he is something they can't get elsewhere as some of the stuff mixing family and business wouldn't have been tolerated anywhere.
The thing that strikes me most about him is that he seems like someone you could trust, the way he remembers the names of all the staff impresses me as well. I wouldn't find a lot of the trainers around his age and slightly older terribly likeable, many either seem untrustworthy or have a stick up their holes.
Some would have you think they were geniuses. I like Hugo Palmer because he basically admitted in an interview that he wouldn't have been bright enough or have the interest to work in the city of London where the family wanted to send him.
AOB - No genius but a hard worker who has the fundamentals nailed.
He's an admirable character Neill, not for a moment am I saying he's not brilliant at what he does. He wouldn't have the job if he wasn't . Dedicated doesn't even come close and the fact that he doesn't frequent the liquor store is a huge help, as it is in any sport.
A huge advantage. For anyone nearly in any big job. A good night and you're writing off half the next day, guys like O'Brien can't afford that.
Remarkably not a whisper about how OSG ran,on here , beaten at odds of 1/7 ridden by Moore , a few weeks later he runs THIS race. Surely the stewards should inquire into such what appears to be MASSIVE improvement.
To paraphrase Pat Keane "Dettori rode the ears off Moore."!
OSG sweated profusely at the Curragh, but he does that all the time. Reckon Moore just rode without giving any thought to Wicklow Brave who looking back, actually travelled into the Goodwood Cup like the best horse. He actually finished at the Curragh, still Order should've had enough for him.
OSG sweated profusely at the Curragh, but he does that all the time. Reckon Moore just rode without giving any thought to Wicklow Brave who looking back, actually travelled into the Goodwood Cup like the best horse. He actually finished at the Curragh, still Order should've had enough for him.
Neill no problem with Pats statement , just wondering how year after year AOB gets to run his horses in what now seems to be a unfit condiction without a word been said. He can bring a animal straight to Newmarket most years for its first run and they go and win . The Curragh seems to be afterthought, some strange results from his early runners year after year. I know some will say lay them then , thats not the point though is it .
"saves a bit for the Group 1s" is how Seamie explained it after the Chevely Park. Probably the best explanation I guess.
Guess in hindsight the Arc, proper group 1 was the main target for OSG and they thought they could win our leger half-c0cked. It was a pretty reasonable expectation given the field!
Guess in hindsight the Arc, proper group 1 was the main target for OSG and they thought they could win our leger half-c0cked. It was a pretty reasonable expectation given the field!
Wouldn't get away with it in any other Country, having said that , hes simply the best , when they're off that is...
O'BRIEN and his Coolmore patrons demonstrated why they are without equal in the sport with a ruthless display of their supreme power they swept the board to a magnificent 1-2-3 in the €5 million Qatar Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe (the world's most valuable turf race) with Found, Highland Reel and Order Of St George, all sons of preeminent sire Galileo, and with Ryan Moore - the world's best Flat jockey, central to the victory - they extinguished the pre-race hopes over British favourite Postponed, star of Japan Makahiki and pioneering Dermot Weld's dual Derby hero Harzand, as Found flew home in track record time.
As O'Brien fielded the congratulations at Chantilly, he modestly tried to deflect the credit to his Ballydoyle team and multimillionaire backers. So it fell to Moore to underline the significance of O'Brien's unprecedented feat, which he equated to Frankie Dettori going through the card at Ascot 20 years ago and Michael Dickinson saddling the first five in the 1983 Cheltenham Gold Cup....."It's one of those unique things, like Frankie's seven and Dickinson's five," he said.
"The first three in an Arc is quite incredible - to get all three there in top shape and beat the best that's around. It's the hardest race to win in Europe every year and the first three home is just unbelievable." Tabor said: "These things can't happen but sometimes they do. It was an amazing training feat. He is a master trainer, without any doubt."
Found had finished second in nine Group 1s, the last five consecutively, and was the victim of a troubled passage when ninth in last year's Arc, before turning the tables on winner Golden Horn in the Breeders' Cup Turf. But in the first Arc run at Chantilly she and Moore ensured this was an occasion when the first prize was not destined for the lost-and-found department. Moore settled the filly on the inside, two horses back from Harzand's pacemaker Vedevani, but when the tempo picked up three furlongs out Moore went for a gap between Order Of St George and Postponed and shot Found into a decisive lead.
As O'Brien fielded the congratulations at Chantilly, he modestly tried to deflect the credit to his Ballydoyle team and multimillionaire backers. So it fell to Moore to underline the significance of O'Brien's unprecedented feat, which he equated to Frankie Dettori going through the card at Ascot 20 years ago and Michael Dickinson saddling the first five in the 1983 Cheltenham Gold Cup....."It's one of those unique things, like Frankie's seven and Dickinson's five," he said.
"The first three in an Arc is quite incredible - to get all three there in top shape and beat the best that's around. It's the hardest race to win in Europe every year and the first three home is just unbelievable." Tabor said: "These things can't happen but sometimes they do. It was an amazing training feat. He is a master trainer, without any doubt."
Found had finished second in nine Group 1s, the last five consecutively, and was the victim of a troubled passage when ninth in last year's Arc, before turning the tables on winner Golden Horn in the Breeders' Cup Turf. But in the first Arc run at Chantilly she and Moore ensured this was an occasion when the first prize was not destined for the lost-and-found department. Moore settled the filly on the inside, two horses back from Harzand's pacemaker Vedevani, but when the tempo picked up three furlongs out Moore went for a gap between Order Of St George and Postponed and shot Found into a decisive lead.
A trainer had a 1,2 in the Arc. The 1,2 were also owned and bred by one owner, and were out of the same dam.
A trainer had a 1,3 and the 3 was the winner the previous year.
Another year a sire had a 1,2 in the Arc
Ballydoyle/Coolmore will not allow me divulge the names.
A trainer had a 1,3 and the 3 was the winner the previous year.
Another year a sire had a 1,2 in the Arc
Ballydoyle/Coolmore will not allow me divulge the names.
Rhododendron and Hydrangea 1st and 2nd in the DUBAI FILLIES´ MILE, Anyone one know Galileos stud price? what a sire.
Galileo (IRE)
2016 STUD FEE: Private
18-y-o b horse (11.1f) AEI 3.53
PEDIGREE: Sadler´s Wells (USA) (11.2f) — Urban Sea (USA) (Miswaki (USA) (8.3f))
STANDING: Coolmore Stud (IRE)
SIRE COMMENT: top-class 12f colt, top pedigree; brilliant sire of 2yos, plus progeny progress well, multiple champ
TRAINER: A P O'Brien
OWNER: Mrs John Magnier & Michael Tabor
BREEDER: D Tsui And Orpendale A money machine
2016 STUD FEE: Private
18-y-o b horse (11.1f) AEI 3.53
PEDIGREE: Sadler´s Wells (USA) (11.2f) — Urban Sea (USA) (Miswaki (USA) (8.3f))
STANDING: Coolmore Stud (IRE)
SIRE COMMENT: top-class 12f colt, top pedigree; brilliant sire of 2yos, plus progeny progress well, multiple champ
TRAINER: A P O'Brien
OWNER: Mrs John Magnier & Michael Tabor
BREEDER: D Tsui And Orpendale A money machine
If Dubawi gets £225k stg. No joke Galileo must be worth €400k a go
the highest fee on record was northern dancer at 1 million usd...........fully deserved...........storm cat hit 500k usd..........not worth half that...............coolmore could surely get 500k euros for the 100 mares they get a fee for.........remember they send about 60 two year olds by the G every year to ballydoyle.............what a money making machine.
Churchill looks bit special, another for Galileo and Aiden.
Contrast the way O'Brien prepared Churchill for the Dewhurst with the way Godolphin had Blue Point for the Middle Park.
I know it won't look it with the pacemaker coming second, but I think if Blue Point had run the race he did today in the Middle Park, he would have won his Group 1.
He ran a fine race today looking threatening before dropping away late. Appleby had no idea what way he would run today the same way Wuheida went off 11/1 when she won the Boussac and Hawknill 7s when he won at Sandown.
Lot said about O'Brien debutants and early season horses, but broadly, I think he is a friend of the punter as his horses when races are targeted, run to around market expectation.
I know it won't look it with the pacemaker coming second, but I think if Blue Point had run the race he did today in the Middle Park, he would have won his Group 1.
He ran a fine race today looking threatening before dropping away late. Appleby had no idea what way he would run today the same way Wuheida went off 11/1 when she won the Boussac and Hawknill 7s when he won at Sandown.
Lot said about O'Brien debutants and early season horses, but broadly, I think he is a friend of the punter as his horses when races are targeted, run to around market expectation.
blue point probably wont win another race.......had a very busy couple of mths.
They have all the time in the world now to ready him for the Commonwealth Cup, no excuses re a bad winter or anything as its June. He should be a force in that for me, if they don't bgallop the sh1t out of him getting him ready. It's a flip of a coin with them, though.
The well named CHURCHILL delivered on his promise this time and continued his winning ways in the 7f Dewhurst, in the style of The Right Honourable Sir Winston Leonard Spencer-Churchill. The star juvenile, unbeaten over 7f, had won each of his last four starts, from June's Royal Ascot to last month's National Stakes at the Curragh for Aidan (that's with two A's btw).
This "very special" 2yo Galileo - out of Meow (Storm Cat) bred by Liberty Bloodstock - winning his second Group One, and a fifth Dewhurst for APO'B - powered to the line under Ryan Moore to score from another aptly named Lancaster Bomber to give AidAn the 48/1 one-two forecast (from his only two runners).
Moore said: "He was always going to win. He's a very, very good colt, this lad has got an awful lot in his favour, when I ask him, he always finds. He's definitely a Guineas horse (2/1)" (not the stamina laden late maturing types that they should be). O'Brien added "Anyone that has had anything to do with him gets that special feeling from him - that's very special when that happens"
- Let's hope he doesn't make any Golden mistakes or heaven forbid, stutter at stud. ©
[/i]How many two year olds by Galileo has APO'B this year ??
This "very special" 2yo Galileo - out of Meow (Storm Cat) bred by Liberty Bloodstock - winning his second Group One, and a fifth Dewhurst for APO'B - powered to the line under Ryan Moore to score from another aptly named Lancaster Bomber to give AidAn the 48/1 one-two forecast (from his only two runners).
Moore said: "He was always going to win. He's a very, very good colt, this lad has got an awful lot in his favour, when I ask him, he always finds. He's definitely a Guineas horse (2/1)" (not the stamina laden late maturing types that they should be). O'Brien added "Anyone that has had anything to do with him gets that special feeling from him - that's very special when that happens"
- Let's hope he doesn't make any Golden mistakes or heaven forbid, stutter at stud. ©
[/i]How many two year olds by Galileo has APO'B this year ??
Yes that's how he spells Aidan what's the problem?
What makes a horse well named cos its Churchill. Would it still be well named if it was a garron. They could have called him haughey and it wouldn't have taken away from how impressive he was.
Maybe they will call a special one haughey some day. He did make them after all didn't he?
What makes a horse well named cos its Churchill. Would it still be well named if it was a garron. They could have called him haughey and it wouldn't have taken away from how impressive he was.
Maybe they will call a special one haughey some day. He did make them after all didn't he?
STILL THINK THE SECOND HORSE WAS BIG EYECATCHER WORTH FEW £ ANTE POST FOR EITHER DERBY IMO
331£ ON IRISH LOTTO
NOW STUDY TIME
GREAT RIDES BY BARRY G AND DAVY RUSSEL WAS SUPERB ON TINOS TANK AND DIDNT BACK EITHER
ATTRIBUTION GOT NICE school IN BEGINNERS CHASE
TONY MARTIN REVFORCAST 455
331£ ON IRISH LOTTO
NOW STUDY TIME GREAT RIDES BY BARRY G AND DAVY RUSSEL WAS SUPERB ON TINOS TANK AND DIDNT BACK EITHER
ATTRIBUTION GOT NICE school IN BEGINNERS CHASE
TONY MARTIN REVFORCAST 455
mitch, Mr Mischief & frank60 got it now. TY.
Naming them is Sue's department I read...
"...it will fall to John Magnier’s wife Susan to name them “She’s great at it,” Annemarie says. “Australia. Camelot. Galileo, Gleneagles. They’re strong names that fit the horses perfectly. That’s no accident.” Sometimes, before a horse is raced, their name gets changed. If it’s not going so well, a cool name might be taken off it and given to a better horse. It’s lucky horses don’t speak fluent English, a sensitive one would never recover from such a slight".
Naming them is Sue's department I read...
"...it will fall to John Magnier’s wife Susan to name them “She’s great at it,” Annemarie says. “Australia. Camelot. Galileo, Gleneagles. They’re strong names that fit the horses perfectly. That’s no accident.” Sometimes, before a horse is raced, their name gets changed. If it’s not going so well, a cool name might be taken off it and given to a better horse. It’s lucky horses don’t speak fluent English, a sensitive one would never recover from such a slight".
The names very often reflect the esteem associated with the horse before it runs . Doing a great job , particularly this last couple of months . Follow the money has worked very well , Rhododendron was very well supported ( and she has an "ordinary" name by their standards) .The forecast there would have been a must for any keen gardener .
Theres nothing ordinary about the Rhododendron flower Kelly, My fav horse at the min is Found what a terrible name for a wonderful filly.
Wonder how they came up with that name frank60 . Maybe it was not homebred .
Rhododendrons are very easy to grow , simple to propagate , easy to transplant , very versatile . Think they are officially classified as a nuisance in certain parts of Ireland where they tend to grow wild . We cut out swathes of them last year on our golf course , maybe 40 years growth in most cases . Interesting to see if they come back .
Rhododendrons are very easy to grow , simple to propagate , easy to transplant , very versatile . Think they are officially classified as a nuisance in certain parts of Ireland where they tend to grow wild . We cut out swathes of them last year on our golf course , maybe 40 years growth in most cases . Interesting to see if they come back .
There's obviously different varieties of rhodedendron no? I think the purple ones tend to grow wild more so.
Mitch is right,but even the invasive purple varieties have great beauty, visit the lakes of Killarney in mid spring if you dont believe me lads.
Typical Ballydoyle 2yo improvers getting an education at the Curragh finale -Alluringly walked out of the stalls and ran on nicely into about 6th and Sir John Lavery oozed potential as he glided into 3rd and appears a Group performer at some level.
Its visualisation, perhaps subconsciously conscious.
As in, 'Found', was in fact well named because she was lost for awhile being 10 times second.
As in, 'Found', was in fact well named because she was lost for awhile being 10 times second.
I mean Galileo was the Daddy, how did they arrive at that.
Vubiant , you could be right re Sir John , had a look at him in the preparade andhe was as green as grass , calling out to everything that walked by him, ran a nice race and a likely massive improver next time . One for the notebook...
ALOT of very well named specimens entered in Gowran Park next Tues you will agree...
Aeneas
African
War Secretary
Venice Beach
The Statesman
Spanish Steps
Sir John Lavery
Orderofthegarter
Oedipus Rex
Max Liebermann
Auckland
Belgravia
Cliffs Of Moher
Homesman
Iron Mountain
Edgar Allan Poe
Eavesdrop
Sugarloaf Mountain
New Millennium
London
Land Of The Free
Schubert
Bay Of Biscay
Santa Anita
Aeneas
African
War Secretary
Venice Beach
The Statesman
Spanish Steps
Sir John Lavery
Orderofthegarter
Oedipus Rex
Max Liebermann
Auckland
Belgravia
Cliffs Of Moher
Homesman
Iron Mountain
Edgar Allan Poe
Eavesdrop
Sugarloaf Mountain
New Millennium
London
Land Of The Free
Schubert
Bay Of Biscay
Santa Anita
'I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity'.
No luck with Sir Isaac Newton 7th in the Caulfield Cup.
(((( ASCOT CHAMPIONS DAY ))))
13.25 Order Of St George 10/11
14.35 Seventh Heaven 7/4
15.10 Minding 9/4
15.45 Found 11/4
Best with SKYbetter 63/1 - be jaysus it can be done !
(((( ASCOT CHAMPIONS DAY ))))
13.25 Order Of St George 10/11
14.35 Seventh Heaven 7/4
15.10 Minding 9/4
15.45 Found 11/4
Best with SKYbetter 63/1 - be jaysus it can be done !
Ascot on this hugely-hyped day at the wrong time of the year regularly sees horses disappoint/under-perform.
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O Brien set’s his sights upon breaking the world record of Group One successes in a year. The record currently stands at 25 set by Bobby Frankel. O’Brien currently has 20 Group Ones.
O Brien set’s his sights upon breaking the world record of Group One successes in a year. The record currently stands at 25 set by Bobby Frankel. O’Brien currently has 20 Group Ones.
The record doesn't mean sh1t to O'Brien, he is a man without ego in that sense. He doesn't care for any of it, your Clare Baldings or whoever speaking platitudes in his ear. He is a man with absolute clarity of purpose. It is quite beautiful to see actually in the era of personality over character.
Contrast with Roger Charlton today after the Balmoral win with a horse that was a French Guineas second rateed 116 winning off 100. He held his usual contemptuous manner, he hasn't the horse only 3 months. I've never seen O'Brien utter the phrase "I thought" after a win or even insinuate it; always his staff.
O'Brien has three Gods, I'd have thought, Jesus Christ, John Magnier and the almighty dollar. He is the epitome of frugal Irish self-sufficiency come good (DeValera would probably have adored him!) and I think he realises it. If Coolmore had never come he'd still be doing his thing just as happily.
Aidan O'Brien doesn't do what Aidan O'Brien does for Aidan O'Brien; Aidan O'Brien does what Aidan O'Brien does because he is Aidan O'Brien.
An Irishman who is legitimately the best in the world at what he does. Found was a credit to him today more than Minding, something Rouget (who'd know) acknowledged. He's an artist.
Contrast with Roger Charlton today after the Balmoral win with a horse that was a French Guineas second rateed 116 winning off 100. He held his usual contemptuous manner, he hasn't the horse only 3 months. I've never seen O'Brien utter the phrase "I thought" after a win or even insinuate it; always his staff.
O'Brien has three Gods, I'd have thought, Jesus Christ, John Magnier and the almighty dollar. He is the epitome of frugal Irish self-sufficiency come good (DeValera would probably have adored him!) and I think he realises it. If Coolmore had never come he'd still be doing his thing just as happily.
Aidan O'Brien doesn't do what Aidan O'Brien does for Aidan O'Brien; Aidan O'Brien does what Aidan O'Brien does because he is Aidan O'Brien.
An Irishman who is legitimately the best in the world at what he does. Found was a credit to him today more than Minding, something Rouget (who'd know) acknowledged. He's an artist.
Well Said neill, Just watching him saddling his horses yesterday his attention to detail is 2nd to none.
Interesting comments here...
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY (47 today) to the maestro (will shirely be checking this thread later).... (his attention to detail is 2nd to none)
Not forgetting - Globetrotter APO'B sends two stars to Woodbine tonight! Best In The World 21.56pm 9/2fav & Idaho 22.40pm evens fav
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