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By:
workrider
When: 02 Oct 16 21:39
Brilliant Frank , delighted for you...
By:
olddesperado
When: 02 Oct 16 21:56
Well done Garcia in a great match.
By:
frank60
When: 02 Oct 16 22:01
OLDD maybe the best match match ever in the history of the Ryder cup, Phil gets 10 birdies and only ties the match, well done to both men
By:
olddesperado
When: 02 Oct 16 22:06
Yes Frank, the Rory Reed match started off brilliantly but rory wilted midway through but garcia and phil did it right to the end,

Pity some of the other games were,nt up to anywhere near them.
By:
olddesperado
When: 02 Oct 16 22:07
This is not even phils time of year, usually well over the top by now.
By:
norn iron
When: 02 Oct 16 22:21
BEST TEAM WON EASY OVER THE THREE DAYS AND EUROPE DIDNT lose CUP AMERICA WON IT WITH SUPERB GOLF .
By:
norn iron
When: 02 Oct 16 22:23
SOME DOUBLE  RYAN MOORE WINS ARC AND WINNING PUTT IN RYDER CUPWink
By:
olddesperado
When: 02 Oct 16 22:25
Laugh
By:
norn iron
When: 02 Oct 16 22:33
HAD TENNER ON BIG PHIL BUT FIRST TIME ever WAS GLAD LOSE AS SERGIO WAS UNREAL  GOOD FOR GOLF THAT CUP CHANGES HANDS

TEE TO GREEN ROSE WAS SUPERB BUT STRUGGLES SINK THE PUTS   

REED WAS BRILLIANTAS HE BEAT THE IN FORM  RORY  BUT WAS REALLY IMPREESED WITG RICKY FOWLER THEY WAY HE CARRIES HISELF NEVER ONCE WENT OVER THE TOP

HAZELTINE WAS SUPERB FOR THE PLAYERS AS GREAT SET UP
By:
Kelly
When: 02 Oct 16 23:32
The process handed us 5 English players , add in old pal Westwood and there were 6 of them .  Didn't count up their collective points , but basically they delivered nothing .

Willett connection screwed up , you never stir up a hornets nest . Some of the European team played their hearts out , others wilted . Don't think even Paul McGinley could have got a win out of the twelve representing us .

Americans played very well , Davis Love was always going to be a good captain , particularly at home , and the crowd were worth a good few points .

Some stupendous golf , but course was not difficult , which suited the Yanks , and it is their prerogative to determine course set up .

Hope in 2 years time in France we get a course where they allow the rough to grow a bit .
By:
Temlett
When: 03 Oct 16 12:59
You know the course for 2018 and it has been developed and matured with 2018 in mind all the time.

It is as good a course as there is on the European Tour.
By:
whosaidwhat
When: 03 Oct 16 19:36
fitzpatrick sullivan willett nul point; westwood ( world 47 ) a wildcard , nul point ; casey ( world 12 ) knox ( world 19 ) nul point ; kaymer ( world 48 ) a wildcard one point . Perhaps reconsideration qualifying criteria.
By:
workrider
When: 03 Oct 16 21:36
Casey didn't play ..
By:
workrider
When: 03 Oct 16 21:36
Neither did Knox..
By:
kavvie
When: 03 Oct 16 22:14
i read a few reports of fans queues for beer at 7.30 am..imagine how tanked up they would be by 1pm..no wonder there was hassle..though with the price beer is in france i doubt they will have that problem the next ryder cup!!
By:
Kelly
When: 04 Oct 16 01:27
Selection process needs to be refined so that someone like Casey who is playing well can be picked late . Recent form is often a better guide than someone who had a good run about a year before the event , maybe points should be weighted time wise .

It was not just in the singles the English guys messed up , Westwood and Willett both missed tiddlers on Saturday which would have influenced a better score and given Clarke more options re order of play .  He had to front load his team , Yanks knew that .

No real surprise to me the result , Americans were well prepared player and course wise , money came for USA in the days before the kick off , follow the money !( No bet myself ).

France will be a different matter I suspect ,  Brexit did not come in time  for this year !
By:
workrider
When: 04 Oct 16 11:09
Kelly, Casey is out there to simply earn money , he has no interest in European golf ,can see him taking out American Citizenship before too long .
By:
frank60
When: 04 Oct 16 13:46
Paul Casey is not the most popular man in US  W/R ;once calling them "stupid" and "annoying.Whoops" he made the comment a good while back, haveing said that i think he lives there now , maybe the yanks have forgiven him.
By:
Kelly
When: 04 Oct 16 14:59
Irreepective of Casey's domesticity etc I would have much preferred him to be on the team than some of his fellow Englishmen who have not got the b***s that he has . Or the ability .
By:
frank60
When: 04 Oct 16 17:10
I have to agree Kelly
By:
workrider
When: 04 Oct 16 17:26
The point been Kelly , he DIDN'T play on the European tour this year , therefore disqualifing himself from been selected..
By:
Kelly
When: 05 Oct 16 01:28
Well aware of the Casey situation , workrider . but as an analogy , Messi was probably the best player in the world , but did not play in Argentina , can you imagine the reaction if they did not pick him for the national team ?

Casey not the best player in the world , although he was deservedly No 3 at one stage and has been playing near that level for last couple of months , which was certainly in advance of the golf being played recently by a number of those pulling on the European jersey last weekend .

Quibble is with selection procedure , Yanks left their last pick until 5 days before the event , maybe we need to copy that . And ignore or change  arbitrary rules set out by the suits whose job it is to promote the European Tour . Captains pick should be left entirely to captain in my book  , no strings attached . Albeit Pieters was the last pick , leaving him out would have resulted in the worst drubbing we have got for years and years .

On another note , got e mails re tickets for Irish open next year 2017 in Portstewart . When it was in Portrush  and Newcastle ( better venues than Portstewart ) in the not too distant past a season ticket was approx £45 ( concession ) . It has now jumped to £85 , a 90% increase approx . Looks like the bean counters have moved jobs from the bookies to the European Tour .
By:
workrider
When: 05 Oct 16 10:49
Casey has been poor for years Kelly , only started to fire recently , your analogy has its flaws , lets understand that rules are a nessersary , ie colts dont quailify for the Oaks , yet Fillies do for the Derby .
By:
Kelly
When: 07 Oct 16 00:55
Casey had a bad injury , golf wise anyway , and some off course problems too , workrider . Stenson was crap for many a year , now is one of our most consistent performers . Luke Donald was world NO 1 and led the two tours earnings wise not so long ago , debated quitting golf in recent times .

The point is that form comes and goes , even over a season , Fitzpatrick is a prime example of that this year , great when qualification started , not last week . On recent form Casey would have been in our "top 4" had he been picked . And the team would have been stronger for his inclusion .

Fillies in the Derby always seemed an anomaly to me , an arbitrary decision no doubt to suit someone historically .
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