Mulins to lose all the Giggy horses

It must have been some whack up in fees!
If the split is solely on that you can see both sides though reportly it is Mullins 1st time raising them in 10 years.
Not a bad thing for Irish racing,it was heading for a total Mullins monopoly,nice to see a few others get decent ones though Elliott will (rightly) come out best, a renaissance for Mouse?

looks as if Morris will benefit alright Pa...Gigginstown have always had their own arrangment moneywise with trainers .Great that more horses will be distributed among the more needy imo.

This is obviously good news for many reasons, not least of which will be more competitive racing.

This is probably petulance writ large on both sides and it smacks of "know your place Willie" so fond of a vast majority of wealthy owners. The golden boy in Ballydoyle even gets his wings clipped occasionally and the mass-going greatcoats are less in evidence this season now that the "problem" with eldest son has been solved.

The question now is: who gets what?

I'll be amazed if its not now a concerted effort to dislodge Wullie as numero uno using Elliott and possibly Joey. Notions that Eddie will favour giving alms to the masses are fanciful regardless of merit. The timing of Colm Murphy's departure now looks even more strange now as this has almost certainly been simmering for a while and given that he reportedly only recently took charge of that Potts draft-another benefactor who likes to keep the handler in his place.

PS Sry about going of the subject matter but i didnt want to start a new thread .

Evens a total steal.

I know Apples Jade and Don Poli gone to Elliott. The row was genuinely about the training fees- nothing else

Neilld......As long as he dances to Gigginstown's tune.

Gordon Elliott will receive around 20 of the 60 Gigginstown horses leaving Closutton. Including Apples Jade, Blow By Blow & Don Poli.

Betswot - "Gigginstown removing all 60 horses from Mullins? Assume Rothwell has finally completed the extension & can now accommodate them".

I do know however that Giggy were offered a class horse in training w DK Weld and Eddie turned it down as he wouldn't want to either pay the fees or move the horse,

Even if Mullins was looking for 200p/m extra you know Michael would fight it, and WP wouldn't back down.

de Bromheads' cleanout must have been a factor

I've said here on numerous occasions how simply stupid it was for an operation of Gigginstown's size to support Mullins when he trains for their "leading owner" rivals. And now we learn he had SIXTY horses in Closutton-SIXTY!!!!

What did Ricci and Wylie or even MacManus think of this?

And if, as has been stated, Mullins and Kirk were buying for O'Leary who determined it was a beast unsuitable (or otherwise) for the Brit owners?

A friend of mine has a mare in training with WP (swops between stations with regularity) and I am completely flummoxed as to why you wouldn't a) give it to a p2p guy to secure that all important "win" in a mares' maiden before going proper racing or b) to a much smaller trainer who will give it some attention as Mullins couldn't possible be concerned about this mare. (Our old friend silvergreaser would tell me why in a heartbeat but I'm just an old romantic).

I have to say, I wouldn't pa. I'd far prefer someone with a bit of skin in my game and needs to look out for me-even if the mare is useless.

Racing is a numbers game - numbers, numbers, numbers - get enough of 'em and you should win plenty.

The history of this mare is interesting: half-sister to two brilliant winners from first two foals and nothing more 8 foals since: with all that disappointment you don't want to be just a number....in my book anyway.

We definitely need more racing threads-some of the cognoscenti still around even if they only feed us crumbs-Bigwilly is always worth a read, for example. With the news on Murphy, Gigginstown, Kavanagh swirling around there should be plenty to get us hot and bothered about.

By the way, I suspect silver is posting on Brian O'Connor's Irish Racing blog. As it doesn't get a lot of comment he (or his doppelganger) is used to howling at the moon.

For those (incl me) that missed this... © from Tony K

http://www.geegeez.co.uk/the-gigginstown-mullins-split-reading-between-the-numbers/

Hope HENRY De Bromhead has him - after his great day UP IN DOWN ROYAL today with Grade 1 & 2 wins with Valseur Lido and Sub Lieutenant

SEE Rich Ricci is on with Matt on ATR atm - must say I didn't recognize him without the hat/sunglasses.

Is the rumour true that all his horses are  sick,.....

WILL the Supreme boyos be next ?