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I have backed Matsuyama for this weeks Memorial(in addition to a couple of others whom I wont waste my time typing as its clearly not allowed). But where I think it's worth having a really good go at the Japanese sensation is in the US Open in two weeks time.
Although Augusta suits Hideki and I believe he will be victorious there soon, I don't think there will ever be a Major venue made to fit this lad more. Its an absolute brute. Thrashers off the tee may stay at home, unless they have a monsoon in the lead up to it. The rough just wont be playable. Accurate driving, followed by accurate long irons will be the key. Matsuyamas slight weak link in the putting department will not be a huge issue here, getting it on the dancefloor in regulation will be the key to winning here. The money down Callit, as for myself Andy Sullivan 460/1 and David Lingmerth 300/1 looking fair value for small money.
Given his unerring comsistency in big events of late, I cannot see him not being involved. He folded on Sunday in Augusta, but he will win one soon, and this could very well be it.
33-1 e.w is a cracking bet.
Although Augusta suits Hideki and I believe he will be victorious there soon, I don't think there will ever be a Major venue made to fit this lad more. Its an absolute brute. Thrashers off the tee may stay at home, unless they have a monsoon in the lead up to it. The rough just wont be playable. Accurate driving, followed by accurate long irons will be the key. Matsuyamas slight weak link in the putting department will not be a huge issue here, getting it on the dancefloor in regulation will be the key to winning here. The money down Callit, as for myself Andy Sullivan 460/1 and David Lingmerth 300/1 looking fair value for small money.
Given his unerring comsistency in big events of late, I cannot see him not being involved. He folded on Sunday in Augusta, but he will win one soon, and this could very well be it.
33-1 e.w is a cracking bet.
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Brute of a track is correct,rough is savage also and bombers will have bit of an advantage imo,bubba price @ 55-60 is attractive though clearly he hasn't been in good form this season but course may keep him motivated,Koepka is another im keeping faith with at similar price 50-55
Adam scott hasnt played much golf lately but could get involved also Imo. Then the big three day,spieth and rory cant be ignored but price very skinny on this kind of test.The last time this course hosted us open +5 won (cabrera) so patience and calm head needed.should be interesting.
Adam scott hasnt played much golf lately but could get involved also Imo. Then the big three day,spieth and rory cant be ignored but price very skinny on this kind of test.The last time this course hosted us open +5 won (cabrera) so patience and calm head needed.should be interesting.
I added Spieth 11.5 and Graeme McDowell at 220/1 who stated that his game is begining to come back,
From the dispatches from the course I think we are set for a gruelling test. + 6 to win is my prediction.
My bets
Schwartzel 95
Reed 60
Grace 60
My bets
Schwartzel 95
Reed 60
Grace 60
it must be tough
Reed 50/1, Kaymer 70/1 and DeChambeau 150/1 for me. Good luck
I must have a look at the site later Apple, im stuck between Ascot and euro2016 at the min.
Day outright 7/1
Without the top three
Dustin 10/1 e/w
Westwood 55/1 e/w
Matsuyama 25/1 e/w
Bello 100/1 e/w
Also done a Trixie,
Lingmerth top Swedish player 4/1
Goosen top south African player 7/1
Cabrera top south American player 7/4
Without the top three
Dustin 10/1 e/w
Westwood 55/1 e/w
Matsuyama 25/1 e/w
Bello 100/1 e/w
Also done a Trixie,
Lingmerth top Swedish player 4/1
Goosen top south African player 7/1
Cabrera top south American player 7/4
I cant understand why Huddys, I see you like Matsuyama as well, 38/1 here at the min, good luck.
Was trying to get on DJ but there has been a big plunge this morning.
Switching stake to Matt Kuchar @ 42.
Switching stake to Matt Kuchar @ 42.
Incredible exhibition of driving from DJ. Didn't hole anything last night though.
Would be nice to see Garcia/Westwood/DJ get the monkey off their back.
Nice round from Charl yesterday after a sloppy Rd1.
Course will only get tougher from here on out. Revised winning score +2
Would be nice to see Garcia/Westwood/DJ get the monkey off their back.
Nice round from Charl yesterday after a sloppy Rd1.
Course will only get tougher from here on out. Revised winning score +2
How is Matsuyama doing? Will he be around for the weekend?
I think Shane Lowry is some bet at 3/1 for the US Open.
He leads by two from a player playing his first major ranked in the six hundreds.
The known players immediately behind him are suspect.
Dustin Johnson is an infamous choker
Sergio Garcia for all his talents can't win a major,he will start missing putts.
Throughout Lowrys career he has shown guts.
His win as an amateur in the Irish Open,done from the front the hard way.
His win in Akron was done in style.
This man won't lack in the bottle department,someone has to go mad from well behind and I just can't see it.
Have faith in the faithful man.
He leads by two from a player playing his first major ranked in the six hundreds.
The known players immediately behind him are suspect.
Dustin Johnson is an infamous choker
Sergio Garcia for all his talents can't win a major,he will start missing putts.
Throughout Lowrys career he has shown guts.
His win as an amateur in the Irish Open,done from the front the hard way.
His win in Akron was done in style.
This man won't lack in the bottle department,someone has to go mad from well behind and I just can't see it.
Have faith in the faithful man.
If Shane can stick to par for the last 19 holes he will win . Hope he plays for the middle of the greens and 2 putts per hole . Course will be tough though , particularly for those out last as greens get firmer . Go Shane !
exactly. Par should be good enough unless someone shoots the lights out. this is a different level but hopefully his experience of winning last year at the Bridgestone stands to him.
Shane Lowry tee time 8.30pm.
Hope he does it. If he can drive the ball like he did in that 3rd he will be hard to stop.
Hope he does it. If he can drive the ball like he did in that 3rd he will be hard to stop.
Par is a great score on this course, i believe he told his Father yesterday that the course suited his game , what a nice Fathers day it would be if Shane won, it make up for yesterday .
Evens is still a cracking bet,tempted to go in again.
Kilbeggan the place to be tomorrow night,the Faithful will be out in their thousands,even Kavvie might make it.
One thing is certain a lot of pints of the black stuff will be despatched.
Our man is a champion in that department as well.
Kilbeggan the place to be tomorrow night,the Faithful will be out in their thousands,even Kavvie might make it.
One thing is certain a lot of pints of the black stuff will be despatched.
Our man is a champion in that department as well.
I see he called a a penalty shot on himself on the 16th ., a good sportman is Shane.
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The choke has begun. The footballers, the rugger buggers now Lowry.
Fair play to Dustin Johnson , he played well despite all the messing about re stupid rule .
Shane Lowry just did not play well in final round , 6 over is just not good enough even if you start with a 4 shot lead . Not all his fault though , the USGA officials haven't a clue .
Both Lowry and Johnson suffered one shot penalties for "moving ball" . Greens running about 14 on the stimpmeter , a breath of wind can move a ball in those conditions . Bad rule anyway , player should only be punished if he touches the ball , when you address the ball you never hit it , so the "address" rule is a nonsense . Always was .
Shane Lowry just did not play well in final round , 6 over is just not good enough even if you start with a 4 shot lead . Not all his fault though , the USGA officials haven't a clue .
Both Lowry and Johnson suffered one shot penalties for "moving ball" . Greens running about 14 on the stimpmeter , a breath of wind can move a ball in those conditions . Bad rule anyway , player should only be punished if he touches the ball , when you address the ball you never hit it , so the "address" rule is a nonsense . Always was .
I think Shane bottled it last night ,he was like the boxer ,you know the kind I mean,taking a beating then turns to the ref complaining that his opponents hitting him on the back of the head , you know straight away hes beat . Shane was telling markers to go on to his left side etc. All the signs were there from a early stage ,he simply forgot to play his own game . That performence could haunt him for years to come.
Hopefully Shane will have learnt from last night , he would have been second on his own but for that one shot penalty ( which he called on himself , despite the fact that he had not touched the ball , bonkers rule.).
He would have maybe won outright but for 3 putting 3 holes in a row . Whether those 3 putts were the result of bad approach shots is open to question . Not helped by rules officials messing up all concerned , OK if you are not in contention , but if you are in the eye of the storm when the info breaks about your nearest challenger , it is bound to upset you .
The fact that Shane and Dustin were both penalised a shot for doing nothing wrong shows up big flaws in the rule . That Rory and Spieth and Ricky took to the airwaves immediately also shows up the level of discontent associated with the daft out of date rule fashioned in the 19th century .
He would have maybe won outright but for 3 putting 3 holes in a row . Whether those 3 putts were the result of bad approach shots is open to question . Not helped by rules officials messing up all concerned , OK if you are not in contention , but if you are in the eye of the storm when the info breaks about your nearest challenger , it is bound to upset you .
The fact that Shane and Dustin were both penalised a shot for doing nothing wrong shows up big flaws in the rule . That Rory and Spieth and Ricky took to the airwaves immediately also shows up the level of discontent associated with the daft out of date rule fashioned in the 19th century .
i dont think he bottled it at all.he lipped out twice and was inches away from a perfect shot 3 times but the ball rolled back 50 ft..another day he would have got par playing the same..we should all be proud of his performance and lets hope he makes the ryder cup and olympics..
I agree with Kavvie.
A brutal course, very easy to tumble backwards. People far to quick to reach for the 'choke' label. A great learning experience for him, all told.
A brutal course, very easy to tumble backwards. People far to quick to reach for the 'choke' label. A great learning experience for him, all told.
No Pro 3 putts consecutive greens ,I think his bottle went ,tell me any player who has done that before...
Trouble is Ozy , he may never again be leading a Major by 4 shots going into the final round . He will survive the experience , but not to be very upset by missing out aint a natural reaction . There is always fallout from this type of experience , some lap it up and try harder , others let it affect them in a minus way . Hopefully the Lowry connection and sporting experience will put him back in pitching , the sooner the better .
On that course that week alone, there were any number of consecutive 3 putts.
Who knows how he will react, but he is young and appears resilient so I would have thought he is far better prepared to contend and win majorsgoing forward than he was this time last week. A big step forward imo.
Who knows how he will react, but he is young and appears resilient so I would have thought he is far better prepared to contend and win majorsgoing forward than he was this time last week. A big step forward imo.
How Irish this thread?
Lowery is championed for being a legendary drinker and APOB is often looked on as being somewhat peculiar for being a pioneer. The p1ss head soccer supporters are another example of this diseased culture, the champion drinkers who celebrate getting hammered in every sense,an embarrassment as Keane rightly pointed out 4 years ago.
in this level of professional sport,margins are wafer thin. One could certainly suggest that Lowery's physical condition was a major contributing factor with his rigorous schedule. The vast majority of the top players aren't in top physical condition for the crack of it. Lowery seems a likable fellow but it's folly not to address such a blatant handicap.
Lowery is championed for being a legendary drinker and APOB is often looked on as being somewhat peculiar for being a pioneer. The p1ss head soccer supporters are another example of this diseased culture, the champion drinkers who celebrate getting hammered in every sense,an embarrassment as Keane rightly pointed out 4 years ago.
in this level of professional sport,margins are wafer thin. One could certainly suggest that Lowery's physical condition was a major contributing factor with his rigorous schedule. The vast majority of the top players aren't in top physical condition for the crack of it. Lowery seems a likable fellow but it's folly not to address such a blatant handicap.
You stated 'consecutive' which I took to mean 2 in a row, which would be common on this course.
been saying it for years that he needs to get in shape.
He was the same shape when he won his other tournaments.
He simply bottled it.
His physical condition had nothing to do with it.
He simply bottled it.
His physical condition had nothing to do with it.
You really shouldn't be betting if you genuinely believe that.
The benefits of physical fitness are obvious....and are both physical and mental.. Lack of fitness leads to fatigue which diminishes concentration and application. He is simply not as well prepared as he could be....and with margins so small in this game.....there is no excuse really.
The benefits of physical fitness are obvious....and are both physical and mental.. Lack of fitness leads to fatigue which diminishes concentration and application. He is simply not as well prepared as he could be....and with margins so small in this game.....there is no excuse really.
The concept that you are a "right"fellow if you can lower a clatter of pints has been fostered very successfully by the drinks industry . Applies to "champagne" celebrations too ,much beloved and quoted by the media ( not exclusively in our island) . Hence the occasional snide comments about Aidans pioneer pin , he is never going to be sponsored by G****ss .
Last time I saw Shane in the flesh was at Newcastle last year , he had slimmed down a bit I reckoned , TV pictures made him look heavier as always . He obviously likes a pint , but if you look through the great golfing champions , most of them are / were fairly abstemious for most of their careers , and nowadays the need to be physically fit applies even more than in the past . Gary Player ( bit over the top re physical condition comments ) told a certain Irish player to get rid of 2 stone weight if he wanted to get right to the top , said player did not respond in kind , either to the sentiment in the comment or to career progression . Player right again .
Not being a serious drinker myself I struggle to understand why anyone drinks more than necessary . I have it down as a character flaw , but it is pretty common throughout Ireland , and specifically in certain sporting arenas .
Our soccer supporters , south and north , though have been doing a great job at the Euros and drink may be a factor , so its not all bad .
Last time I saw Shane in the flesh was at Newcastle last year , he had slimmed down a bit I reckoned , TV pictures made him look heavier as always . He obviously likes a pint , but if you look through the great golfing champions , most of them are / were fairly abstemious for most of their careers , and nowadays the need to be physically fit applies even more than in the past . Gary Player ( bit over the top re physical condition comments ) told a certain Irish player to get rid of 2 stone weight if he wanted to get right to the top , said player did not respond in kind , either to the sentiment in the comment or to career progression . Player right again .
Not being a serious drinker myself I struggle to understand why anyone drinks more than necessary . I have it down as a character flaw , but it is pretty common throughout Ireland , and specifically in certain sporting arenas .
Our soccer supporters , south and north , though have been doing a great job at the Euros and drink may be a factor , so its not all bad .
Just watched the re run of the last round on 405 now . Shane was 6 over for the last round , the other 7 players on the final leaderboard averaged about level par for the round . Played without a lot of conviction , most of his shots/ putts were short , a sure sign of not committing on the shot/putt . USGA did not help , nor did rules of golf , Dustin Johnson got the gift of all time when getting a free drop out of deep rough for the line of sight rule ( Jack take a bow , he infamously claimed something similar at Wentworth a long time ago ).
Rules of golf need a major revamp , but R & A and others have heads in the sand , like the soccer people over using technology to help get the just result ( based on common sense ).
Rules of golf need a major revamp , but R & A and others have heads in the sand , like the soccer people over using technology to help get the just result ( based on common sense ).
Rory cllroy won the P.G.A IN 2012 by 8shots and the US Open in 2011 by 8Shots since then he has put on stone and a half of muscle [ Oxy posted a picture of him here a while back without his shirt] you cant say his game is any better now [ he didn,t even make the cut last week] its good to feel better about youself and your shape but in golf it doesn,t mean as much as other sports.
Frank no-one is saying he has to have the body of Ronaldo. He's overweight in a professional sport and this simply has a negative impact - its nonsense to suggest otherwise. I'll bet a walk up a steep hill on any course leaves him puffing and panting. Why do amateur GAA players shun alcohol for just a game they love?
I also dislike the rush to call him a bottler-it happens here all the time here: when someone disappoints it's as if the commentators have some unique insight (and its nasty). It's just life.
I also dislike the rush to call him a bottler-it happens here all the time here: when someone disappoints it's as if the commentators have some unique insight (and its nasty). It's just life.
Shane,s Dad Brenden won an All Ireland football winners medal in 1982 with Offaly ;maybe he will have a chat with Shane about his weight R.A.
i find it insulting to shane to bring up his weight. i dont see him gasping for air or sweating on the warmest of courses? there was nothing about his weight after shooting 65 in his 3rd round? lots of golfers have different body shapes? angel cabrera,lee westwood ,monty,fuzzy zeller,miguel jimenez..lots and lots more i cant think of just now. golf isnt as physically demanding as football hurling rugby or soccer..im sure he gets lots of advice and hes happy as he is...?
Rory's game is probably not as good now as it was a few years ago , frank60 , before he toned up muscle wise . Rory's power comes from his swing and his hip clearance , up top muscle is of some significance , but not key. Rory has also changed ball and clubs I think since the days mentioned , not to mention recent disclosures and actions re attitude to the game of golf . Rory loves other sports as well as golf . Distractions though .
Rory's main problem now golf wise is that he is not hitting the ball close enough for birdie putts to be fairly easy , and he has chopped and changed his putting which indicates that he was not happy as once was re his putting . Get on Rory if and when he is completely focussed ( if you can figure out his "mood" .)
Rory's main problem now golf wise is that he is not hitting the ball close enough for birdie putts to be fairly easy , and he has chopped and changed his putting which indicates that he was not happy as once was re his putting . Get on Rory if and when he is completely focussed ( if you can figure out his "mood" .)
i think playing with that bellend did him no favours. i know johsnon played with westwood but he's been there many times before shane hadn't. in the end i was happy johnson won after the farce of hole 5. ruined the tournament for me and the atmosphere went dead.
you could see in the interview after lowry was sick. he knew he slipped up today. i know he had 3 lipouts and zero luck all day but he made too many mistakes. can tell he feels he is good enough and im sure if hes ever in contention again this will be good experience. it took johnson many attempts to get it right so no reason why shane cant.
you could see in the interview after lowry was sick. he knew he slipped up today. i know he had 3 lipouts and zero luck all day but he made too many mistakes. can tell he feels he is good enough and im sure if hes ever in contention again this will be good experience. it took johnson many attempts to get it right so no reason why shane cant.
It's bizzare that people use the fact that he shot a 65 in the 3rd round (or whatever) to justify that he is sufficiently fit.
It goes without saying that being physically fitter combats fatigue and improves mental concentration, especially when fatigued or in stressful situations. Being a pro is all about eking out marginal gains and preparing in the best way possible.
It goes without saying that being physically fitter combats fatigue and improves mental concentration, especially when fatigued or in stressful situations. Being a pro is all about eking out marginal gains and preparing in the best way possible.
It's equally bizzare that people would say his fitness or weight was the reason he had a poor final round
Why?
No one knows for sure why he had a poor final round. Only himself.
With the later finish/early start it is highly likely that fatigue may have played a part. Is he in the best physical shape to combat possible fatigue? Clearly not. Should he be? Clearly yes.
I fail to see what is bizzare?
No one knows for sure why he had a poor final round. Only himself.
With the later finish/early start it is highly likely that fatigue may have played a part. Is he in the best physical shape to combat possible fatigue? Clearly not. Should he be? Clearly yes.
I fail to see what is bizzare?
Yes that's right, no one knows why he had a poor final round and I would say his shape had little to do with it. In the tournament McIlroy had a 77, Spieth a 75 and Day a 76. That's just golf isn't it so why point to Lowry's physical condition as a reason for shooting a 76 to finish second?
Dustin Johnson has, this year alone, led 2 tournaments into the final round and shot 79 and 80. Would you blame that on fatigue?
Dustin Johnson has, this year alone, led 2 tournaments into the final round and shot 79 and 80. Would you blame that on fatigue?
Pro's have to get ever aspect of their preparation right to give them the best chance to make the most of their abilities. Who knows what unticked box may let them down at any point?
have you looked at Dj's physique. Even without the marching dust, he could stay up all night riding his Missus (and should btw), do an Ironman and then go and play 36 holes of golf. In short he is less likely than Shane to be fatigued in, say, the pressure cooker of an extended Final Day in a Major. As are 95% of other Pros.
Shazza looks like he is rolling up to the Hotel Room after a few pints, ordering cheeseburger and fries on room service and then asking his Missus if she wouldn't mind rolling on top of him cos he is bloated and knackered. It's one of the reasons we like him so much...we can identify with that kind of behaviour..he looks like a golf fan rather than a golf pro.
Are you a fat f*ck yourself out of interest?
have you looked at Dj's physique. Even without the marching dust, he could stay up all night riding his Missus (and should btw), do an Ironman and then go and play 36 holes of golf. In short he is less likely than Shane to be fatigued in, say, the pressure cooker of an extended Final Day in a Major. As are 95% of other Pros.
Shazza looks like he is rolling up to the Hotel Room after a few pints, ordering cheeseburger and fries on room service and then asking his Missus if she wouldn't mind rolling on top of him cos he is bloated and knackered. It's one of the reasons we like him so much...we can identify with that kind of behaviour..he looks like a golf fan rather than a golf pro.
Are you a fat f*ck yourself out of interest?
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/columnists/kieran-shannon/a-lesson-for-ni...
Its amazing how a discussion on golf can be dragged down by the forums uncouth vulgarian.
Its interesting that a childless sexually insecure individual measures fitness by an activity he himself doesn't engage in.
Its interesting that a childless sexually insecure individual measures fitness by an activity he himself doesn't engage in.
If you had got da roide off an occasional foreign wan it might have shook you out of your xenophobic, insular neurosis.
How on earth did you avoid sowing any wild oats in liberal London during your stint there? Would you hold your hands up to being sexually repressed? A Paddy off the boat drippng with guilt and evil unsatisfied urges. No wonder you lost the run of yourself and bred like a rabbit when you finally did get the your hands on a woman.
How on earth did you avoid sowing any wild oats in liberal London during your stint there? Would you hold your hands up to being sexually repressed? A Paddy off the boat drippng with guilt and evil unsatisfied urges. No wonder you lost the run of yourself and bred like a rabbit when you finally did get the your hands on a woman.
i feel sorry for ozy,obviously a very sad and lonely individual.
No golf tips then ?
Bmw
A.Sullivan
E.peperrell
Usa
P.Reed
B.Haas
Bmw
A.Sullivan
E.peperrell
Usa
P.Reed
B.Haas
Backed Willett 9/1 and Luiten 22/1 and Reed 20/1 and Furyk 20/1 and also done e/w permed doubles,
who cares! im sick of reading about yourself or declans 9 million bets on every tournament ffs!
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