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By:
Tolmi
When: 10 Jan 16 15:53
If Ceylon had won you would be the first to point to your mention of her at 13.06.

I notice you didn't address my mention of aftertiming...I wonder why??

The vast majority of threads that you start are ones criticizing jockeys when a race hasn't panned out the way you thought it should or worse still falling back to the old red herring of accusations of underhand activity.You should remember that as often as you will be the victim of poor jockeyship you will be the beneficiary of it when you back a winner when other jockeys in the race mess up.It is a common trait so you shouldn't worry about it too much but most successful punters recognise that over a lifetime of punting these things even out.

I have no doubt but that you put in the work and very possibly are a winning punter but your posts here are littered with inconsistencies whereby you criticize punters for doing something yet its something you have done yourself.

Your constant aftertiming when you claim you have got it right is grating.Equally your anger with a loser is palpable.

However what I find most irritating is your presumption that only your analysis is correct as is your belittling(normally post race) of alternative views.You should remember you don't have a monopoly on how to make profit.
By:
TellTheKing
When: 10 Jan 16 16:09
Truly excellent post Tolmi. Sums up pretty much all the annoyances which stem from much of Easy's posts
By:
easygold
When: 10 Jan 16 16:13
If u read threads properly.... If I mention a rider on here it`s for a goddamn reason not always against them (SDS,O.Murphy,David Mullins are three that will vouch). I don`t worry about riders whatsoever, but if I see poor horsemanship from an experienced pilot I have commented for sure... so what???. Punters are not tolerated by riders and trainers,owners... Ask Ruby (I ride for the owner????)....... You can`t say anything about riders, they all cry away........ Fran Berry and Richard Hughes where the biggest babies..... along with Mr Paddy "I`m a champion jockey" Brennan. and I know better than you Mr G.Lee..... A sport you can`t speak your mind (that`s why presenters can`t say a word about U.K/Irish riders......... THAT`S A BIG NO NO........ But no problem for Mark "pork pies Johnston to talk about poor horsemansip about French Riders I wonder why????????
but again Ceylon was not a selection.... what is ur problem.... I commented about the race before hand where was ur comment... and why are you only picking out one piece of the puzzle?????? A proper annoying poster if ever......
When have u started a thread??????????
By:
easygold
When: 10 Jan 16 16:18

Jan 10, 2016 -- 4:09PM, TellTheKing wrote:


Truly excellent post Tolmi. Sums up pretty much all the annoyances which stem from much of Easy's posts


Annoyances???? u think I`m a fool............ what so called experienced punter would write "will take a lot of beating" about a horse that never jumped a hurdle in public against a horse that has jumped a hurdle with solid form.......... JUST WRONG..........

By:
easygold
When: 10 Jan 16 16:25

Jan 9, 2016 -- 7:57PM, pa lapsy wrote:


Another one for ya with Shannak 1.50 CR(put on Punchestown earlier as thought it will be shorter), GL Tony/WR on a go through the card attempt.


Yeah Pa, I was solid enough on this fellow, even though Dessie did his best to put everyone off the last day calling the wrong horse....

Well done Workrider....

By:
poorpup
When: 10 Jan 16 16:33
well done workrider
By:
slickster
When: 10 Jan 16 16:37
Jaysus wonks, you have me rattled Grin
By:
TellTheKing
When: 10 Jan 16 16:38
I think the point Tolmi was making is that your threads on poor / dodgy rides (by far and away your most common contribution besides aftertiming) are utterly pointless regardless of the content of them.

How did that unraced bumper horse (the only horse I noted you posting about pre event) get on in Leopardstown by the way? Unraced horse mmmmmmm????? Guessing mmmmmm????? Experienced punter mmmmmm?????
By:
easygold
When: 10 Jan 16 17:00
Eh, did you not see the pun....... I have never selected a horse without previous form in that discipline on the day of the race..... Pylonthepressure is the only horse i MENTIONED this year without form..... that is more of one to follow in his career kind of selecting....

You know damn well.....  where I`m coming from........ the way you go on..... this will win, world of beating....... and don`t let me bring up the Russian Bill thread again........ punting is not that easy the way you could across with your strong MR RIGHT approach...
By:
Tolmi
When: 10 Jan 16 17:02
Thanks TTK.At least someone understands the points I was making even if easygold's bizarre, rambling and nearly indecipherable post at 16.13 shows my replies have gone over his head.

He then manages to emphasise my aftertiming point with his 16.25 post!!

As for starting threads I have on occasion done so in the past and will occasionally do so in the future.Is that OK with you?
By:
easygold
When: 10 Jan 16 17:04
What was the bumper horse you would say would win for sure........ Dermot had one for that now didn`t he...... It`s not that simple now is it....
By:
easygold
When: 10 Jan 16 17:08
Tolmi...... are you for real.......... just listen to urself....... sit behind ur little screen..... reading and the odd occasion comment.... Thanks TTK....... jasus where is my bucket.......
By:
easygold
When: 10 Jan 16 17:10
Right bye bye now..... but I will be looking on for your Cheltenham selections.. but maybe not .....
By:
Tolmi
When: 10 Jan 16 17:11
My apologies if my screen is smaller than yours.It makes me feel inadequate.
By:
TellTheKing
When: 10 Jan 16 17:22
I hold my hands up Easy. I fully expected Elliot's to draw that bumper up the North. Couldn't have been more wrong about it as the winner hosed up.

I express my views strongly because confidence in your punting is a prerequisite. No point being meek & iffy about things as there won't be many bookies that will lay you after the race.
By:
easygold
When: 10 Jan 16 17:25
Yes that`s fine...... on here..... but we all know it`s not that easy...... THIS WILL WIN......... ffs ur better than that....
By:
easygold
When: 10 Jan 16 17:28
Yeah exactly... one for the man from Ratoath
By:
easygold
When: 10 Jan 16 17:30

Jan 10, 2016 -- 5:10PM, easygold wrote:


Right bye bye now..... but I will be looking on for your Cheltenham selections.. but maybe not .....


Bye now.... apologies

By:
pa lapsy
When: 10 Jan 16 17:32
Easy i find both Tolmi and TelltheKing reasonable fellas,i know if past threads were brought up i'd have some right howlers and more than a few.
I was surprised you were against Miztique all the same TelltheKing and while it is hard to quantify how much that gambling syndicate with the suppossed 250k loss at Limerick had a bearing on todays race,my feelings were it was a factor but to what degree i didn't know.
With BJG booked maybe they were looking for and got a "recovery mission" but that is only conjecture.
By:
workrider
When: 10 Jan 16 17:33
Evening gents, I pop out for acouple of hours ,and mayhem breaks out . Missed the 13/8 in the first but was happy to take the 6/4 , a genuine mare imo, in the 2nd again missed the best price , there was a little 6/4 I took 11/8 , Barry held on as long as he could before sending her to the front and she ran on really well , she missed out the first in the back straight and dopped off them a little , and I was a little worried tbh but alls well that ends well, and you've guessed it I missed the best price on McKinley as well. He is a horse I wouldn't be rushing to back again, he was like a greyhound waiting in front, Cooper did well to coax him him home. A good day overall...
By:
TellTheKing
When: 10 Jan 16 17:43
Pa she's had two looks over hurdles and she probably didn't step up much from bumper form in either. Didn't think she was the type to improve with racing either after I saw her in Limerick. In fairness she tougher it out very well today. I would normally stay away from Northern English form when returning to Ireland but Crawford's looked made to me for today's test. I also know that she was expected to give it a far better rattle (though this didn't really impact my thinking as I wanted to be with her in any event).

Well done on your winners WR.
By:
Tolmi
When: 10 Jan 16 17:52
Don't think it's quite mayhem workrider!

Congratulations on your good day.For what it's worth I thought Swamp Fire's maiden first time out over hurdles was a terrible race and I couldn't believe it started so short.Interestingly a feature of these 4 year old maidens is that the O Brien runners seem to bely market weakness to run very well on their debuts.
However I called the second race wrong.I thought Mystique was plenty short against a few credible opponents even if the Byrnes horse was noticeably weak in the market.
The handicap hurdle was a poor race but the winter could go in again depending on his rise.Nearly Namad was probably an improver against some badly exposed types and I don't think Mc Kinley is up to much.
By:
workrider
When: 10 Jan 16 17:54
Well done Gut and Pa , we should have cleaned them out....
By:
The Gotchee
When: 10 Jan 16 20:25
Well done WR pa and Gut.
By:
mincer11
When: 10 Jan 16 20:31
Billy billy was as dead as a stone today.
By:
wildmanfromborneo
When: 11 Jan 16 13:10
That Workrider gets away with murder,he puts up his thoughts the night before and sticks up Bright New Dawn which got beaten,how many Yankees did that horse wreck.

I know he put up three odds against winners,average each at 6/4 but we must concentrate on the one beast that lost.

No booms so you know there is a Pa Lapsy winner somewhere.
Shannak was the winner and it showed the two sides to Pa Lapsy,his ability to unearth winners and his reading of the market,he spotted the price rick,told us all 3/1 was way to big.
My first reaction was wouldn't touch 3/1 about a Tony Mullins trained horse ( debatable) but once again horse being backed off boards wins handicap.
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