New Irish Racing Club

gallistic,
dj is right ..no offence meant..as long as you are genuine, then my friend works for Gordon Elliot racing club (manager)if you need advice help etc..im sure he,ll be glad to help..if this is what you need please pm me I,ll take it from there.

Tony, The Gordon Elliott racing club would be lovely id say, is the Martin Pipe one still going ?

The racing club manager would be in my book, on the vermin scale of 1-10, an 11.
The average racing club works like this Tony, 20 1/10 shares where nobody has a clue who owns what and the guys running it are creaming off each and every month, pay nothing towards it, and make all the decisions. All they have to do is keep the dream and then the horse alive.

i know a few lads in the supreme racing club?clued in lads at that.they seem to be happy enough?

The Gordon Elliot club won’t last five minutes with the horses they are sticking the members with. Mr Steadfast only moved into it after his winning was done while Faraway Mountain & Nordic Beat are useless. There’s a hundred people in the queue ahead of the racing club to take horses in the yard. Only the real dirt thats left goes into the club by the looks of it.

Thanks Wasp - he’s a very nice horse. Had my max stake on him. Gifford is obviously reading my mind and hopefully plotting a route to the EBF final in Sandown!

very good TTK will be keeping an eye on that white arm in the near future too.
LOL mincer

leasing mares is a bad job.you only increase the value of them for the owners while incurring all the expense..i wouldnt get involved in any clubs or owning horses myself.been there done that.not a pleasant experience..met some honest trainers   but a few tinkers and tramps..

Galistic they way I see racing clubs is that the members are giving someone else a free ride. They’d be aswell off putting the money towards booking trips to the big racing meetings. I wouldn’t get much pleasure out of paying for a leased share in a rag horse. I suspect neither would anyone with a bit of nous. If you can’t afford to buy one properly then you are as well off out of the game.

As for your pricing structure, I would imagine upfront is better. The direct debits won’t be long getting cancelled if the horses don’t run well or even not at all.

200 lads at €600 = €120,000

No comeback from that.

Have some dignity and declare that the end of the thread.

You're making it up as you go along.

A wannabe charlatan.

Read the very first post I made on here. "I am not looking for members as such" and " Just looking for advice not any knocks". I knew I was wasting my time but thought maybe the forum had changed and the old says of genuine posters such as Keen Leader and Distant View had returned. My mistake to post on here. I won't do so again.

Gallistic getting his ar5e handed to him

Embarrassing

When you have the likes of gobshee endorsing your plan you know for sure you're donald ducked!

ya you lose on the double

gall

arguably the most successful racing club was the original one run by colin tinkler over 30 years ago. colin died around three months ago, I was lucky to spend an afternoon in his company 15 years ago and at that time his club had long since ceased. he gave me chapter and verse on the operation.

in summary, the single most important cost for him was advertising. his enterprise had a huge turnover of members, as the first in the marketplace it did have first mover advantage. he told me he turned over about 10,000 mugs in 6 years....back then in the late 70s few ordinary joes would have been in a position to own a hair of a racehorse let alone a leg, so for the price of £25 or £50, tinkler had loads of working class customers jumping on the "ownership bandwagon" as they saw it.

tinkler made huge profits as he operated a daily premium clubline message and he was yielding massive profits off that...colin mentioned in our chat that his update message was the premium line that triggered call barring in UK civil service departments, such was its popularity .

the above is the background to the origin of the club species.

much of what has been written on this thread by others has been critical and although harsh it is true.

if you are trying to establish a racing club in Ireland with 100 or 200 members at an annual cost of 500-1000a year....forget it, you will find it hard to get 20.  To have even a remote prospect of hitting the 40 to 50 members you would have to be spending very big bucks on advertising...this is an item I think you may have neglected.....the likes of elite racing spend more on advertising than on training fees.

unless you are with a top 5 trainer, those outside his local area will not want to know. as mincer did indicate, a number of your members may see the idea of joining a club attached to a big yard as a vehicle for getting some extra titbits on the better class horses within that stable, with a smaller yard the titbits may be unreliable or winners rare. the "glamour" idea of a stable visit wears thin very quickly.

gall you might as a friend like to help out a young upcoming trainer with this club idea. it is part of that trainer's business to find owners and that is his problem.

stop wasting your time on this project and get on with enjoying the racing.

Thanks Keen Leader, I appreciate you taking the time to answer my question and to do so with an honest, educated opinion. The forum is all the poorer for you rare posts.

You needn't thank me at all gallistic, keen leader only politely said what I had already done.