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CheltenhamRoar
31 Oct 15 11:45
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Coolmore have been wrapping Gleneagles in cotton wool all season but then decide to run him on the dirt tonight!
Like all of Ballydoyles previous battalions in the classic he has absolutely zero chance. More likely to be pulled up after halfway than ever running a place.
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Report Bigwillystyle October 31, 2015 10:54 AM GMT
Agree. Horse has zero chance of a place. It really is the greatest lay of the year. He is not likely to stay the trip and will be held up and in the kick back. How morons could contemplate backing this to place at 5/2 i don't know!
Report Swardean October 31, 2015 11:44 AM GMT
Does anyone have any stats of Galileo progeny on dirt?   I don't think the trip is a problem.

I wouldn't be a layer at double figures.
Report CheltenhamRoar October 31, 2015 11:49 AM GMT
Ah you'll always have the o Brien mugs, ye know the type in the bookies they see his name they automatically back it,
O'brien has a dreadful record at the breeders cup, his horses will never win on the dirt, I'm pretty sure if you layer all his runners over the tease you'd be well up, that's nothing to do with his ability to train horses obviously, I don't get why they dint try go gate to wire with gleneagles so he'll avoid the kick back he's obviously gonna hate, more than likely will make no difference whatsoever but worth a try at least.
Report CheltenhamRoar October 31, 2015 11:50 AM GMT
*over the years ,damn iPhones
Report CheltenhamRoar October 31, 2015 11:51 AM GMT
The only hope gleneagles fans have is the dam side was a dirt horse
Report wildmanfromborneo October 31, 2015 12:27 PM GMT
I wouldn't be a place layer.

I never liked Gleneagles as a two year old but he is a fast ground loving miler,the ground is fast,he is on an easy racecourse the 10 furlongs will be more like 9,if he acts on the dirt he cannot be unplaced.

He is also trained by a genius who can transform horses.
Report Catch Me ifyoucan October 31, 2015 12:53 PM GMT
NAME YOUR THREE FOR LATER.....

FIRST RACE AT 3pm


6.10 Legatissimo 1/1
8.50 Golden Horn 4/7
9.35 American Pharoah 5/4
Report Catch Me ifyoucan October 31, 2015 1:58 PM GMT
NAME YOUR THREE FOR LATER.....
Report CheltenhamRoar October 31, 2015 2:05 PM GMT
A fast ground loving miler is in a completely different world to running on dirt over a couple of furlongs more, he is not bred for the game, he has no chance, as I said, I'd have him more likely to be pulled up
Report Catch Me ifyoucan October 31, 2015 2:10 PM GMT
workrider,
NAME YOUR THREE FOR LATER.....
Report Catch Me ifyoucan October 31, 2015 2:14 PM GMT
EastLower Gooner,
NAME YOUR THREE FOR LATER.....
Report Catch Me ifyoucan October 31, 2015 2:16 PM GMT
xmoneyx 31 Oct 15 13:10
405-songbird@11/8
610-legatissimo@1/1
850-golden horn@4/7
935-american pharaoh@4/5

which one will let me down
Report norn iron October 31, 2015 2:38 PM GMT
MISS FRANCE  610 NB
ESCOTERIQUE 730
FOUND  930
KEEN ICE NAP EWAY 
GLENEAGLES  EW

RYAN MOORE WAS SUPERB ON HIT IT A BOMB AND VERY UNLUCKY ON ALICE SPRINGS JUST HELD IN OR DEFFO WOULD WON

BEST JOCKEY SINCE LESTER FOR ME
Report wildmanfromborneo October 31, 2015 2:47 PM GMT
CheltenhamRoar,your record is better than mine,I still remember Fame And Glory.
Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y October 31, 2015 4:08 PM GMT
Esoterique
Report frank60 October 31, 2015 4:09 PM GMT
Henrythenavigator in 2008 2nd , Giants Causeway 2nd, Declaration Of War was 3rd 2years ago [Aidens record in the classic]..
Report CheltenhamRoar October 31, 2015 7:55 PM GMT
Henrythenavigator ran on a synthetic surface, declaration of war was bred for the dirt, giants causeway too far back for me to recall,
Gleneagles should not be running on the dirt.
Report CheltenhamRoar October 31, 2015 8:20 PM GMT
Waterloo bridge another one absolutely hating the dirt, lost on it.
Report pa lapsy October 31, 2015 9:57 PM GMT
Ye got Gleneagles right here,winner very impressive.
Report Vubiant October 31, 2015 10:38 PM GMT
John Gosden showed his class yet again ...gracious in defeat and rejoicing in the European 1-2. Top man is JG.
Report neill d November 1, 2015 1:54 AM GMT
Missed this, Gleneagles was always a gillion. The one that they wanted won and Gleneagles was never going to shake that up even if they had wanted him to. he's a bloody pony. This excursion was a shot to nothing and totally disingenuous.

For the following.

Q. "Why didn't you run the horse all season?"

Coolmore A: "Because the ground wasn't right but don't worry he's a machine, the best miler we've had, we have every faith, he could do anything granted a surface."

Reality: He was a precocious 2yo that won the last 2yo race (he went off at 4/1 - 9/2 or something ffs, they didn't think he'd win), the 2000 Guineas and was basically "done" afterward , and then laboured at the Curragh against rubbish, even if the ground was wrong!

Q:"Why run the fastest miler you've ever had on dirt over 10f?"

Coolmore: "Because he is that good, and we have that much faith in him, he could do anything. We can't show you next year though, as the only true precocious miling son of Galileo, we need him on the farm"

Reality: We ran him at Ascot when we knew the ground was wrong so we would have an inbuilt excuse. He was actually shot to s hit. We ran him tonight as a disingenuous show of faith in the horse and on the off chance he might figure in some way, it would give the result a solid look for the one we actually wanted here, it was a garbage renewal.
Report DECALEC November 1, 2015 6:35 AM GMT
spot on the last paragraph
Report SoYouThink November 1, 2015 8:40 AM GMT
O'Brien should be admired for running his star horses in the Classic. He could have 5 BC Mile's on his CV by now, instead the likes of Giants Causeway, Hawk Wing, George Washington * 2, Henrythenavigator ran in the Classic. Giants Causeway was very close and George Washington would've been a lot closer the first time round were it for being battered on the home turn by one of the American horses.
Report CheltenhamRoar November 1, 2015 4:56 PM GMT
Why should be be admired? He's p!ssing against the wind running these horses in the classic.
Unless your bred for it you can forget about it.
Report snap crackle and pop November 2, 2015 6:54 PM GMT
Farce of a meeting. An afterthought for any decent European horses
Report Catch Me ifyoucan November 5, 2016 9:06 PM GMT
2016 SANTA ANITA coming later…

2016 SANTA ANITA coming later…

2016 SANTA ANITA coming later…



10.22pm Highland Reel takes on Found with Flintshire a threat
11.40pm Super filly Alice Springs with good draw to beat the favourite Tepin.
12.35am California Chrome in the Classic
Report Eddie Batt November 5, 2016 9:35 PM GMT
Cannot believe that Found is only joint second favourite -had a decent each way bet at 7/2.Nap of the meeting is a place lay of Limato at odds on -this will be a very different test to anything he has faced previously and I also have a serious doubt about the jockey.Cougar Mountain might be a place only bet at double figure odds.
Report Eddie Batt November 5, 2016 10:38 PM GMT
Seamie gives Highland Reel the ride of the meeting so far.
Report CheltenhamRoar November 5, 2016 10:50 PM GMT
Hit it a bomb big price in the next, don't think them odds reflect his chances.
Report Catch Me ifyoucan November 5, 2016 10:52 PM GMT
GOT THE TRIFECTA Devil Excited

1m4f, £1,496,598.64

1 Highland Reel
2 Flintshire
3 Found

13 ran Distances: TIME 2m 23.00s

Jockey: Seamie Heffernan
Trainer: AP O'Brien
Report Catch Me ifyoucan November 5, 2016 11:01 PM GMT
Seamie Heffernan talks about his brilliant winning ride on Highland Reel.
https://twitter.com/leemottershead
Report pa lapsy November 5, 2016 11:07 PM GMT
Brilliant ride from him,mugged the 2nd and 3rd who both had running left.
Change to see something other than the ordinary being done and well rewarded.
Report Catch Me ifyoucan November 5, 2016 11:36 PM GMT
11.40 Breeders' Cup Mile (Grade 1) (Group 1) of $2,000,000.00..... 4/1 Who the Fcuk is ALICE !
Report Catch Me ifyoucan November 5, 2016 11:47 PM GMT
Where the Fcuk is ALICE ! Whoops
Report Catch Me ifyoucan November 5, 2016 11:51 PM GMT
Highland Reel swept to a wire-to-wire victory in the $4 million Turf at Santa Anita Park on Saturday, giving Irish trainer Aidan O'Brien an 11th Breeders' Cup victory but his first of 2016. Jockey Seamus Heffernan's bold ride paid off with a first Breeders' Cup victory ahead of Flintshire and defending champion Found.

The O'Brien-trained Found had beaten Highland Reel across the line at the Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe last month, but it was her stablemate who found the going to his liking on the sunbaked turf course in California. Highland Reel led the field down the hill from the starting gate, notching a quick 48 seconds for the first half-mile.
The winner of the King George VI & Queen Elizabeth Stakes at Ascot extended his lead on the backstretch, opening a gap of eight lengths that his rivals were finally unable to close.

"He's the type of horse that's brave in front," Heffernan said. "And when he wants to go, you let him go and he turns it on. "I thought there were a few horses that were going to come from the back and come quick. So if I was going, I wanted to go early."

Flintshire jockey Javier Castellano seemed to be taken by surprise. "He tried to steal the race and he stole it," said Castellano, whose mount was sent off as the 9-5 favorite but finished 1 3/4 lengths behind. "Usually you don't see the European horses run so aggressively, open up and carry their speed," Castellano added, "especially at 1 1/2 miles -- but it worked out great for him."
Flintshire trainer Chad Brown said there was nothing Castellano could have done on the day. "The course is very, very firm and when you have a classy horse (Highland Reel) like that alone on the lead, it's dangerous," Brown said. "We had no excuses."

Found, ridden by Ryan Moore, recovered well from an awkward start but even running well at the end never looked like challenging Highland Reel. Heffernan said Moore had told him before the race that it could well be Highland Reel's day. "Ryan Moore told me it was his best chance on this track the way the ground was," he said. "I wasn't sure if I was given the chance, I'd want it to be firm, but Ryan was right."
O'Brien's sixth Breeders' Cup Turf triumph was his 22nd Group or Grade One win in what has been a remarkable 2016 campaign.
Report Catch Me ifyoucan November 6, 2016 12:26 AM GMT
12.35am Breeders' Cup Classic (Grade 1) (Group 1) of $6,000,001.00 3-y-o plus 1m. 2f. Dirt - Fast, Turf - Firm

1st - $3,780,001.00
Report Catch Me ifyoucan November 6, 2016 12:27 AM GMT
btw it's at DEL MAR next year
Report Catch Me ifyoucan November 6, 2016 1:01 AM GMT
3yo Arrogate (Unbridled's Song-Bubbler for Juddmonte Farms, Inc) for Bob Baffert/Mike Smith beats California Chrome.
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