You wold have to imagine that on a card strongly supported by Martinstown and with a grade 2 hurdle named the Istabraq hurdle that a genuine run would be forthcoming. Maybe stable form might be a slight concern with only 2 winners from his last 50 runners, but it's likely that a lot of these runs contain some of next year's Puncestown/Galway projects.

He's still almost 11/8 on here when on form should be odds on,the price contains a perverse reward because there is always doubt about Martin's shorties. So instead of receiving the curly finger,the punters awareness of his lack of authenticity rewards Martin with a premium price. The "Martin factor"is incorporated in all of his shorties until 5 minutes before the race.

Without any concerns over ground,conditions, opponents and the sponsorship of the race the verisimilitude of this scenario suggests that TE is still well overpriced and 8/11 would be a more accurate reflection.

TY foremites ;thats my 3doubles and a treble fixed for the day,.. sry about my England tip as my bet of the weekend  .. verisimilitude not a word we come across every day on the forum Dj76 ,if truth be told i had to look it up ,one of the Disadvantages of a poor Education

There are too many posters on this thread from the O'hehir school of betting for my liking.


Its not good enough lads !

thanks wd..glad to say I had a decent bet ..I was surprised 6/4 was available..

Good to see you getting a few ,will ring during the week..

N1 TONY