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France 16-1
I think France will beat Ireland,avoid New Zealand and make the semi final and then have an even money chance of making the final.The warm up games have proved that Ireland are vulnerable but worse,tactically have been sussed.
I am going for the trade here and if everything goes to plan will re-evaluate at the semi final.
Cheers and gl.
I think France will beat Ireland,avoid New Zealand and make the semi final and then have an even money chance of making the final.The warm up games have proved that Ireland are vulnerable but worse,tactically have been sussed.
I am going for the trade here and if everything goes to plan will re-evaluate at the semi final.
Cheers and gl.
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Agree and am on at 20/1, though they wont be even money to win a semi at Twickers.
My sense is they have benefited from a long camp, are fit for a change, have real power and size up front and even bullied England at set peice and in the collisions. They also seem to lift themselves in World Cups. That said, all is not lost for Ireland. Michalak is a liability waiting to happen, St Andre is arguably the worst Coach in World Rugby and Schmidt is arguably the best. We outscrummed the Chariot at Twickers HQ for the first time in my memory which augurs well in what will be a big challenge for us. Nigel Owens refs the game and and he is quick to blow up perceived infringements at scrum time. Our players are very familiar with him and his interpretations at the breakdown which should help, France's legendary indiscipline may be key. Our recent record against France is surprisingly good, they haven't beaten us since 2011, though this years vintage is shaping up better than that of recent years. The irony for England is that they have discovered a few genuine world class backs just at a time when their traditional strength at scrum time looks to be slightly on the wane. Also unusually for England their best penalty kicker, Farrell, looks likely to start on the bench. Unfortunately for England, Australia appear to be compeditive at scrum time for the first time in decades. England vs Australia has typically come down to England's scrum versus Australia's backs in recent years, it looks a more balanced contest this time. I also rate Australias coach, Cheika very highly. They may also play two fetchers, two genuine 7's who may trouble England's more upright back row. The winner of England/Australia looks likely to make the Final, I haven't made up my mind who wins just yet! Obviously Australia's outright price is double that of England so more potential juice in there for a trade, and they also have a win against the AB's earlier this season. England are a tough nut to crack at Twickers though. |
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Have not looked at this market yet other than a cursory glance . Dont think England are a great team , neither are Ireland on recent form . The nature of the tournament though is that teams can sort things out over the 3 weeks or so , have a sneaking feeling that Australia might be overpriced .
Only coming back from holiday on 29th , hopefully the tournament will have started to shape up by then . Match by match might be the dart . |
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Me too.
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@ 19.5
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what bout south africa? bit of hassle in the camp..which is often a good thing!! nearly 10s here..
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Best thing to happen Ireland has been losing the last two games. Dampens down expectation.
Have no doubt that they will beat France. How any French coach can continually pick the same donkeys in the side repeatedly is beyond me. As has been said above Michalak is a flake. when the going gets tough he will be nowhere to be found. How they dropped Trinh Duc is beyond me. They have Spedding at full back which says it all, and that show pony at No 8. Added to that they have Fofana who has never passed the ball in his entire career. They are the most ill disciplined side in the tournament with Pape and the No 8 who are penalty machines. New Zealand are a serious lay. McCaw slipping, Carter not at the races(Wouldnt mind the last Aus match, he is miles off the pace), Nonu, Smith all getting on in years. They are always at their weakest in the year of the world cup and it looks that case again. |
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I have to agree with you Willy about N.Z. being a lay, ..2.3 to win the world cup for a team that has never won The Webb Ellis Cup outside there own land is the bet for me. I backed Ireland a good while back at 12.5 h..hope they lose there complex about the big one.
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BWS, not sure what French no. 8 you are refering to as a 'show pony' and 'penalty machine'. Picamoles is the No. 8, and I can only assume you have not seen him in the warm up games? He has lost a lot of weight and was fantastic in the two games against England, head and shoulders the best Forward on the park. Huge talent.
Whist the Boks have an easy pool, they will likely have to beat all 3 of the top teams in the market to win it. Possible but not for me. |
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Test 1234
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Did anyone hear George on Newstalk today (Thurs)? He said that the four semi-finalists would be 'South Africa, New Zealand, England and Australia'. That's a pity George as no way can these four be the semi-finalists, George said lines like 'if I was a gambling man' (he used to be) he'd back these four to be semi-finalists. He musn't have looked at bookies sites as this quartet is not even listed as a potential semi-final quartet; they cant be.
Strange to hear the otherwise well-informed George coming out with this forecast...... |
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A big problem for Ireland is,they cant afford to have any injuries to key personnel,Sexton,Murray,O'Brien,Heaslip and O'Connell going into the french game.
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I was in PP today and they were offering what they call a Daily Power surge between 5.30 and 6oc on the Rugby world cup, todays special 'South Africa, New Zealand, England and ireland all to win there Pool groups 10/3, Foremites like Oz and Callit would know better then myself if these bets are worth takeing.
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That would have represented a bit of value today Frank.
Taking Boyles prices, which would be the best accumulated on them 4, the acca would pay just under 11-4. Taking the best price on each with various bookies, would yield just over 11-4. That obviously isn't possible. The accumulated betfair odds would be currently a shade over 10-3, but slightly under after commission. So if you fancied the 4, it would be a good bet. Usually a max of a ton on these though?? The majority of the time these specials are not actually a good price, just mug bets dressed up, and under the actual odds. |
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Well, its a boost of less than half a point over the market. Big challenge for England & Ireland to finish ahead of Australia and France respectively. Not for me.
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50 is the max Oz, TY for that
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I am not a rugby punter but as a sports fanatic will be interested in most games.
I think handicap punting in all sports is generally for mug punters as it's rare that you can align the interest of your handicap bet with the complete interests of the teams involved (regardless of how the game evolves). Bookies often take the draw as a bonus on already 100% +O/R'S. However the forum could do with some sports threads and a bit of life so daily threads on spreads etc might be interesting. |
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The ability to handicap is what separates the men from the boys,the winners and the losers,the mathematical analysis of all the varibles and imo DJ you have no idea of how to do that and you are a
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You haven't an iota about any aspect of punting Kingrat as evinced by all your posts on here.
You're bookies fodder who plays on novelty markets with extortionate O'R's such as HT/FT and 3 way handicaps. There isn't any mathematical analysis to your selections as we saw with your laughable selections in the challenge with PA on here. You're what is described as a non-price sensitive (mug). Generally putting up 6/1 shots that were trading at double figure odds on here. Despite your hot air and occasional C+P, you're a punting green horn and not one of much potential either. Lose your health - Lose something Lose your integrity - Lose everything |
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 Sorry,I just dont respect you mate when it comes to betting. |
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I would be worried if you did.
I don't respect your opinion on anything RK. Some nice selections you have being putting up on the HR forum recently with the normal results.Unplaced. I am surprised no one has taken you up on your offer of the big ticket swap. |
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ah no,be honest,you obviously monitor me
a 10-1 and 4-1 winners out of 5 selectionsdo you want to take me on and prove it?   one of the tip lads has swapped(they are in the minor final)confident of getting the other hill ticket. |
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The smileys are a fantastic invention, they offer the illiterate a way of communicating on here.
I don't think anyone on here would be having a bet with you with your previous form. Shameless. Kingrat - It's obvious by even glancing at your posts that you don't even understand the most basic concepts of gambling. Anyway I know it's rare anyone communicates to you on here so will leave it at that and enjoy the match on Sunday from your mother's bedsit. |
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I dont know you from Adam mate but have reduced you to personal insults because I have criticized your betting.tbh your ego and arrogance scores more highly than your IQ,think about that mate,here endeth the lesson.
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please lads... knock it off ... Thanks
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sorry bardo and fellow forumites,lets get back to the issue at hand.can the french put it all together?they have got the players and a deep squad of talent.
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Nice start by the boys in green,
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You have to admire the bookies in their assessment of these spreads.
They pitched the handicap at 42 points,Ireland cover it by a point. |
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Ireland to win -37.5 points 2.02 here , as you say wildman good judgement.
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Think it was-45 with paddies..
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What a game, well done Japan, best game of rugger for a long time.
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Japan 200/1 to win the game
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My son was telling me that Japan hit 400/1 in running.
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Bravery rewarded,Could have taken the easy option and kicked over for the draw.But they sensed a piece of history!!
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ARGINTINA leading N.Z what next,
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the all blacks had too much quality in the end.. argentina had them on the ropes in the first half
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Aah lads, I know it has to be paid for, but all the ads., someone's taking the p1ss. Two ads after the National Anthems is a bit much, and we can't even switch to the Beeb. at the breaks.
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Its a pity tv3 dont have Neil Francis as part of their panels.I have read some of his stuff and its hilarious but there is alot of substance to his analysis.
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Neil Francis wouldn’t know what day of the week it is. A complete talking shop.
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Couldn't agree more, he's a buffoon. Possibly the most yellow player to ever be capped, I cannot take him seriously.
He has a turn of phrase and is mildly entertaining in print but that's where it ends. |