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wildmanfromborneo
09 Sep 15 12:24
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BOG is a great concession but its not for all and it has a downside.

I race regularly at the Curragh,when a race is over I see bookmakers betting on the next race,there are major fluctuations in the market,these fluctuations are not shown.

The shows in Ireland are stalled til a few minutes before the off,this used never be the case.
Listen to the presenters on Attheraces saying in frustration there is no show yet and the horses are going down,its not as if they aren't betting on it,its being deliberately delayed to minimise the damage of BOG.

The first show in Ireland should be out at least 15 minutes before the off.
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Report TellTheKing September 9, 2015 12:45 PM BST
It's been highlighted on here previously and it's a practice that's becoming more prevalent.

The obvious aim is to lay shop punters at shortened prices knowing that, despite the guaranteed odds concession, they are only paying out either the in house shows prior to live prices, the SP or somewhere in between.

It makes Irish Racing a laughing stock compared to other jurisdictions.
Report wildmanfromborneo September 9, 2015 1:13 PM BST
Irish racing.com seem to be in on it
They show the market moves in their result sections but these are the shows shown in the office and don't reflect the actual moves.

I saw a horse on the Curragh backed from 3/1 into 6/4 yet in the paper it was 13/8 into 6/4.

This doesn't happen in English racing.
Report spurs to buy big September 9, 2015 1:27 PM BST
...all sorts of tricks being employed ..The craic with a certain firm shortening known/probable non runners so to enforce a harsher rule 4 is a bigger issue IMHO
Report kincsem September 9, 2015 1:35 PM BST
I seldom go racing now, although I was a badge holder at The Curragh for about 15 years.

Treats at The Curragh:
1) An SP of eight co-favourites.  Business was non-existant.
2) A £20 bet refused.  The bookie was afraid of a ~200 liability.  The nag did well to make the top ten.
3) Refusal to pay a winning bet.  I had to get the official to check the sheet and got paid after racing.
The same bookie tried the same with someone from the UK.  I overheard and I made sure we went through the same procedure.  He got paid.

Disgraceful that the bookies are witholding betting movements/prices (if true).
Report kavvie September 9, 2015 2:19 PM BST
the r4 issue is a big issue for sure..its actually barefaced robbery.
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